Cannot copy profile

[Crockett]

I am trying to copy a profile to the "Default User" but I
am getting an error message that states "Failed to set
security on the Destination Profile. Error - The process
cannot access the file because it is being used by another
process." I am logged on as the administrator in safe
mode. Also, is there a way to logon as the administrator
in normal mode?

[Sharon F]

Crockett wrote:
> I am trying to copy a profile to the "Default User" but I
> am getting an error message that states "Failed to set
> security on the Destination Profile. Error - The process
> cannot access the file because it is being used by another
> process." I am logged on as the administrator in safe
> mode. Also, is there a way to logon as the administrator
> in normal mode?

You may want to approach this project a little differently. The Default User
account is specialized. In addition to storing the template for new user
profiles it also has attached to it some security functions needed to set up
those accounts. Most threads that I've read where the Default User account
is altered extensively, end up in trouble because these security functions
get munged. May I suggest instead creating a separate account within the
Administrator group? Maybe call it "Recovery" or "Emergency"?

If you have XP Home the default administrator account is available via Safe
Mode only.
If you have XP Pro, you can access the account using Ctrl+Alt+Del twice at
the welcome screen.

TweakUI for XP allows you to place the "Administrator" account onto the
welcome screen. I believe this option is only usable with XP Pro. I haven't
tried it in XP Home but suspect you would be denied access to the account
when TweakUI places it within reach on XP Home's Welcome screen.

--
Sharon F
Microsoft MVP, Windows - Shell/User

[Crockett]

Why does Microsoft feel like they have to constantly
change things when a new OS is released. We have been
copying a custom profile to the default user with all of
our Win2K systems and now you're saying that it can no
longer be done. Is there a work around or a different way
to do this now? I want to ensure that any and all users
see the same desktop, etc. when they logon.
>-----Original Message-----
>Crockett wrote:
>> I am trying to copy a profile to the "Default User" but
I
>> am getting an error message that states "Failed to set
>> security on the Destination Profile. Error - The
process
>> cannot access the file because it is being used by
another
>> process." I am logged on as the administrator in safe
>> mode. Also, is there a way to logon as the
administrator
>> in normal mode?
>
>You may want to approach this project a little
differently. The Default User
>account is specialized. In addition to storing the
template for new user
>profiles it also has attached to it some security
functions needed to set up
>those accounts. Most threads that I've read where the
Default User account
>is altered extensively, end up in trouble because these
security functions
>get munged. May I suggest instead creating a separate
account within the
>Administrator group? Maybe call it "Recovery"
or "Emergency"?
>
>If you have XP Home the default administrator account is
available via Safe
>Mode only.
>If you have XP Pro, you can access the account using
Ctrl+Alt+Del twice at
>the welcome screen.
>
>TweakUI for XP allows you to place the "Administrator"
account onto the
>welcome screen. I believe this option is only usable with
XP Pro. I haven't
>tried it in XP Home but suspect you would be denied
access to the account
>when TweakUI places it within reach on XP Home's Welcome
screen.
>
>--
>Sharon F
>Microsoft MVP, Windows - Shell/User
>
>
>
>.
>

[Sharon F]

HOW TO: Create a Custom Default User Profile
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;319974

Note the cautions in the article carefully to avoid future problems with
permissions.


--
Sharon F
Microsoft MVP, Windows - Shell/User

Crockett wrote:
> Why does Microsoft feel like they have to constantly
> change things when a new OS is released. We have been
> copying a custom profile to the default user with all of
> our Win2K systems and now you're saying that it can no
> longer be done. Is there a work around or a different way
> to do this now? I want to ensure that any and all users
> see the same desktop, etc. when they logon.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Crockett wrote:
>>> I am trying to copy a profile to the "Default User" but I
>>> am getting an error message that states "Failed to set
>>> security on the Destination Profile. Error - The process
>>> cannot access the file because it is being used by another
>>> process." I am logged on as the administrator in safe
>>> mode. Also, is there a way to logon as the administrator
>>> in normal mode?
>>
>> You may want to approach this project a little differently. The Default
>> User account is specialized. In addition to storing the template for new
>> user profiles it also has attached to it some security functions needed
to
>> set up those accounts. Most threads that I've read where the Default User
>> account is altered extensively, end up in trouble because these security
>> functions get munged. May I suggest instead creating a separate account
>> within the Administrator group? Maybe call it "Recovery"
> or "Emergency"?
>>
>> If you have XP Home the default administrator account is available via
Safe
>> Mode only.
>> If you have XP Pro, you can access the account using Ctrl+Alt+Del twice
at
>> the welcome screen.
>>
>> TweakUI for XP allows you to place the "Administrator" account onto the
>> welcome screen. I believe this option is only usable with XP Pro. I
haven't
>> tried it in XP Home but suspect you would be denied access to the account
>> when TweakUI places it within reach on XP Home's Welcome screen.
>>
>> --
>> Sharon F
>> Microsoft MVP, Windows - Shell/User
>>
>>
>>
>> .

[Crockett]

That's exactly what I'm doing and I'm getting the error
message.
>-----Original Message-----
>HOW TO: Create a Custom Default User Profile
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;319974
>
>Note the cautions in the article carefully to avoid
future problems with
>permissions.
>
>
>--
>Sharon F
>Microsoft MVP, Windows - Shell/User
>
>Crockett wrote:
>> Why does Microsoft feel like they have to constantly
>> change things when a new OS is released. We have been
>> copying a custom profile to the default user with all of
>> our Win2K systems and now you're saying that it can no
>> longer be done. Is there a work around or a different
way
>> to do this now? I want to ensure that any and all users
>> see the same desktop, etc. when they logon.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Crockett wrote:
>>>> I am trying to copy a profile to the "Default User"
but I
>>>> am getting an error message that states "Failed to set
>>>> security on the Destination Profile. Error - The
process
>>>> cannot access the file because it is being used by
another
>>>> process." I am logged on as the administrator in safe
>>>> mode. Also, is there a way to logon as the
administrator
>>>> in normal mode?
>>>
>>> You may want to approach this project a little
differently. The Default
>>> User account is specialized. In addition to storing
the template for new
>>> user profiles it also has attached to it some security
functions needed
>to
>>> set up those accounts. Most threads that I've read
where the Default User
>>> account is altered extensively, end up in trouble
because these security
>>> functions get munged. May I suggest instead creating a
separate account
>>> within the Administrator group? Maybe call
it "Recovery"
>> or "Emergency"?
>>>
>>> If you have XP Home the default administrator account
is available via
>Safe
>>> Mode only.
>>> If you have XP Pro, you can access the account using
Ctrl+Alt+Del twice
>at
>>> the welcome screen.
>>>
>>> TweakUI for XP allows you to place the "Administrator"
account onto the
>>> welcome screen. I believe this option is only usable
with XP Pro. I
>haven't
>>> tried it in XP Home but suspect you would be denied
access to the account
>>> when TweakUI places it within reach on XP Home's
Welcome screen.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sharon F
>>> Microsoft MVP, Windows - Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>
>.
>

[Kelly]

Hi,

Make sure the profile is "logged off".

Scroll down to Copy a User Profile:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_logon.htm

As per the Administrator:

Enable/Disable Administrator on Welcome Screen (Line 5)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

--
All the Best,
Kelly

MS-MVP Win98/XP [AE-Windows® XP]
Troubleshooting Windows XP
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"Crockett" > wrote in message
...
> I am trying to copy a profile to the "Default User" but I
> am getting an error message that states "Failed to set
> security on the Destination Profile. Error - The process
> cannot access the file because it is being used by another
> process." I am logged on as the administrator in safe
> mode. Also, is there a way to logon as the administrator
> in normal mode?

[Kent W. England [MVP]]

Sharon;

Your reference to 319974 makes it seem like the right way to get a
customized Default User is to copy over the profile with another
profile. However, I had a chat with some MS and MVP folks some time ago
and found this article that tends to contradict the other article:


321281 - The Desktop.ini File Does Not Work Correctly When You Create a
Custom Default Profile: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321281 explains
how copying over the Default profile with a "used" account profile
screws up the initialization of certain features.

Also note that
305709 - HOW TO: Create a Custom Default User Profile:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305709 is the win2K version of the same
article that references 321281.

321281 is the only article I can find that contradicts 319974(xp) and
305709(2K).

--
Kent W. England, Microsoft MVP for Windows



"Sharon F" > wrote in message
...
> HOW TO: Create a Custom Default User Profile
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;319974
>
> Note the cautions in the article carefully to avoid future problems
with
> permissions.

[Sharon F]

Thanks, Kent, for the additional references. I have been following the newer
group_policy newsgroup the last few days and caught a thread there that
discussed some of the ins and outs of the default user account. One of the
MS folks was involved in the thread and brought up some points about this
account (initialization of features, base security policies for assigned
group, etc) that I hadn't read of in the usual XP reference areas (online or
in books).

Appreciate the links you've included and have added them to my collection.
Thanks again.

--
Sharon F
Microsoft MVP, Windows - Shell/User


Kent W. England [MVP] wrote:
> Sharon;
>
> Your reference to 319974 makes it seem like the right way to get a
> customized Default User is to copy over the profile with another
> profile. However, I had a chat with some MS and MVP folks some time ago
> and found this article that tends to contradict the other article:
>
>
> 321281 - The Desktop.ini File Does Not Work Correctly When You Create a
> Custom Default Profile: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=321281 explains
> how copying over the Default profile with a "used" account profile
> screws up the initialization of certain features.
>
> Also note that
> 305709 - HOW TO: Create a Custom Default User Profile:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305709 is the win2K version of the same
> article that references 321281.
>
> 321281 is the only article I can find that contradicts 319974(xp) and
> 305709(2K).
>
> --
> Kent W. England, Microsoft MVP for Windows
>
>
>
> "Sharon F" > wrote in message
> ...
>> HOW TO: Create a Custom Default User Profile
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;319974
>>
>> Note the cautions in the article carefully to avoid future problems with
>> permissions.