COMPUTER BASICS

[Lesley]

Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
shouting!

For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
Start\All Progs - Accessories

You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with

Lesley

>-----Original Message-----
> NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
>EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
>TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
>.
>

[Eli Aran]

its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
illiterate people.
have a heart!
try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim to be
computer illiterate.
they are trying to fit into this new and difficult world of computers.
you don't have to be so rude to them.
i would have given them the simple directions to write a basic letter
without telling them "how bad they are" so that i don't get them to be even
more discouraged at their first steps in the computer world.
think about it!
Eli

"Lesley" > wrote in message
...
> Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
> shouting!
>
> For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
> Start\All Progs - Accessories
>
> You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
> your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
>
> Lesley
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
> >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
> >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
> >.
> >


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[Bob Gibson]

Eli,

It would be easy to make this a long post, but I won't.

As a long time PC, and word processor, user (anybody remember
WordStar?), I'm still a novice with each new PC and OS. I'm 73, long
retired, and I found Lesley's request to use accepted netiquette to be
polite and succinct.

We should all consider the sensibilities of those dedicated people who
answer the same old cries for help day after day, by making our own
posts as readable as possible. This includes netiquette, as well as
proper capitalization, and punctuation (a gentle rebuke), to the best of
our abilities (my copout).

Bob


"Eli Aran" > wrote in message
...
| its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
| illiterate people.
| have a heart!
| try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim
to be
| computer illiterate.
| they are trying to fit into this new and difficult world of computers.
| you don't have to be so rude to them.
| i would have given them the simple directions to write a basic letter
| without telling them "how bad they are" so that i don't get them to be
even
| more discouraged at their first steps in the computer world.
| think about it!
| Eli
|
| "Lesley" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
| > shouting!
| >
| > For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
| > Start\All Progs - Accessories
| >
| > You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
| > your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
| >
| > Lesley
| >
| > >-----Original Message-----
| > > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
| > >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
| > >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
| > >.
| > >
|
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[David B.]

I see nothing out of line with Leslie's post, she even said please.

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"Eli Aran" > wrote in message ...
> its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
> illiterate people.
> have a heart!
> try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim to be
> computer illiterate.
> they are trying to fit into this new and difficult world of computers.
> you don't have to be so rude to them.
> i would have given them the simple directions to write a basic letter
> without telling them "how bad they are" so that i don't get them to be even
> more discouraged at their first steps in the computer world.
> think about it!
> Eli
>
> "Lesley" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
> > shouting!
> >
> > For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
> > Start\All Progs - Accessories
> >
> > You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
> > your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
> >
> > Lesley
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
> > >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
> > >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
> > >.
> > >
>
>
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[Eli Aran]

you are a long time computer and word processor user at the age of 73.
the person who started this thread is an elderly person who claims to be
computer illiterate.
it wouldn't be fair to compare your personal experience in computers and
typing to his.
in your reply to me, you did not help me much to emphasize my demand to be a
bit more patient with these new users and not to be angry with him just for
trying to get to know the domain a bit better.
the guy asked for a little help and probably got even more afraid to
approach computers after so many people were angry at the retired man for
mistakenly having his caps lock button stuck and accusing him of shouting...
COME ON!

"Bob Gibson" > wrote in message
...
> Eli,
>
> It would be easy to make this a long post, but I won't.
>
> As a long time PC, and word processor, user (anybody remember
> WordStar?), I'm still a novice with each new PC and OS. I'm 73, long
> retired, and I found Lesley's request to use accepted netiquette to be
> polite and succinct.
>
> We should all consider the sensibilities of those dedicated people who
> answer the same old cries for help day after day, by making our own
> posts as readable as possible. This includes netiquette, as well as
> proper capitalization, and punctuation (a gentle rebuke), to the best of
> our abilities (my copout).
>
> Bob
>
>
> "Eli Aran" > wrote in message
> ...
> | its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
> | illiterate people.
> | have a heart!
> | try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim
> to be
> | computer illiterate.
> | they are trying to fit into this new and difficult world of computers.
> | you don't have to be so rude to them.
> | i would have given them the simple directions to write a basic letter
> | without telling them "how bad they are" so that i don't get them to be
> even
> | more discouraged at their first steps in the computer world.
> | think about it!
> | Eli
> |
> | "Lesley" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
> | > shouting!
> | >
> | > For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
> | > Start\All Progs - Accessories
> | >
> | > You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
> | > your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
> | >
> | > Lesley
> | >
> | > >-----Original Message-----
> | > > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
> | > >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
> | > >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
> | > >.
> | > >
> |
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[Eli Aran]

"Eli Aran" > wrote in message news:...
> its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
> illiterate people.
> have a heart!
> try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim to
be
> computer illiterate.
> they are trying to fit into this new and difficult world of computers.
> you don't have to be so rude to them.
> i would have given them the simple directions to write a basic letter
> without telling them "how bad they are" so that i don't get them to be
even
> more discouraged at their first steps in the computer world.
> think about it!
> Eli
>
> "Lesley" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
> > shouting!
> >
> > For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
> > Start\All Progs - Accessories
> >
> > You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
> > your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
> >
> > Lesley
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
> > >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
> > >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
> > >.
> > >
>
>
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>
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[Eli Aran]

don't you see that someone new to computers is trying to get some help here
and EVERYONE who decided to respond to him was angry at him for having his
caps lock on?
do you think it will be easier for him now?
how unfriendly can people get?

"David B." > wrote in message
...
> I see nothing out of line with Leslie's post, she even said please.
>
> --
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> "Eli Aran" > wrote in message
...
> > its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
> > illiterate people.
> > have a heart!
> > try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim to
be
> > computer illiterate.
> > they are trying to fit into this new and difficult world of computers.
> > you don't have to be so rude to them.
> > i would have given them the simple directions to write a basic letter
> > without telling them "how bad they are" so that i don't get them to be
even
> > more discouraged at their first steps in the computer world.
> > think about it!
> > Eli
> >
> > "Lesley" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
> > > shouting!
> > >
> > > For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
> > > Start\All Progs - Accessories
> > >
> > > You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
> > > your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
> > >
> > > Lesley
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
> > > >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
> > > >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>


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[Paul]

The people in here can be very rude and intolerant of people who don't know
as much as they do. Too bad you had to find that out so soon. Good luck to
you and I hope you got your questions answered through all the rudeness.

Paul
Cleveland, OH

"Eli Aran" > wrote in message
...
| its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
| illiterate people.
| have a heart!
| try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim to
be
| computer illiterate.
| they are trying to fit into this new and difficult world of computers.
| you don't have to be so rude to them.
| i would have given them the simple directions to write a basic letter
| without telling them "how bad they are" so that i don't get them to be
even
| more discouraged at their first steps in the computer world.
| think about it!
| Eli
|
| "Lesley" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
| > shouting!
| >
| > For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
| > Start\All Progs - Accessories
| >
| > You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
| > your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
| >
| > Lesley
| >
| > >-----Original Message-----
| > > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
| > >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
| > >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
| > >.
| > >
|
|
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|
|

[David B.]

I see people correcting a problem with a post, I don't see anger. If they aren't told they are doing something not generally
considered acceptable, they will continue to do it, unaware that it is a problem. How many posts should we wait? 3? 5?

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"Eli Aran" > wrote in message ...
> don't you see that someone new to computers is trying to get some help here
> and EVERYONE who decided to respond to him was angry at him for having his
> caps lock on?
> do you think it will be easier for him now?
> how unfriendly can people get?
>
> "David B." > wrote in message
> ...
> > I see nothing out of line with Leslie's post, she even said please.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > "Eli Aran" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
> > > illiterate people.
> > > have a heart!
> > > try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim to
> be
> > > computer illiterate.
> > > they are trying to fit into this new and difficult world of computers.
> > > you don't have to be so rude to them.
> > > i would have given them the simple directions to write a basic letter
> > > without telling them "how bad they are" so that i don't get them to be
> even
> > > more discouraged at their first steps in the computer world.
> > > think about it!
> > > Eli
> > >
> > > "Lesley" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it implies
> > > > shouting!
> > > >
> > > > For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
> > > > Start\All Progs - Accessories
> > > >
> > > > You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-Processor on
> > > > your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
> > > >
> > > > Lesley
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I NEED
> > > > >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I USE TO
> > > > >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
> > > > >.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>
>"Eli Aran" > wrote in message
news:...
>> its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly
retired computer
>> illiterate people.
>> have a heart!
>> try to be a little more patient with older people and
those who claim to
>be
>> computer illiterate.
>> they are trying to fit into this new and difficult
world of computers.
>> you don't have to be so rude to them.
>> i would have given them the simple directions to write
a basic letter
>> without telling them "how bad they are" so that i
don't get them to be
>even
>> more discouraged at their first steps in the computer
world.
>> think about it!
>> Eli
>>
>> "Lesley" > wrote
in message
>> ...
>> > Please don't use the Caps Lock when Posting - it
implies
>> > shouting!
>> >
>> > For just an ordinary simple letter try Wordpad -
>> > Start\All Progs - Accessories
>> >
>> > You may or may nor have a more advanced Word-
Processor on
>> > your Computer but WordPad is fine to begin with
>> >
>> > Lesley
>> >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > NEWLY RETIRED, NEW COMPUTER, COMPUTER ILITERATE.I
NEED
>> > >EASY TO UNDERSTAND INSTUCTIONS ON WHAT PROGRAM I
USE TO
>> > >TYPE A LETTER TO MY CHILDREN
>> > >.
>> > >
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system
(http://www.grisoft.com).
>> Version: 6.0.534 / Virus Database: 329 - Release Date:
31/10/2003
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>>
>
>
>---
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01/11/2003
>
>
>.
>

[Michael Stevens]

Eli Aran wrote:
> its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
> illiterate people.
> have a heart!
> try to be a little more patient with older people and those who claim
> to be computer illiterate.

When does a please become a growl? How will a computer illiterate know all
caps are not the best way to post electronically it they are never told?
--

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://michaelstevenstech.com
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[John Thomas Smith]

On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:17:30 +0200, "Eli Aran"
> wrote:
>don't you see that someone new to computers is trying to get some help here
>and EVERYONE who decided to respond to him was angry at him for having his
>caps lock on?

Everyone??? Nope... I pointed him at a book, and a program, and
did not say one word about all caps

John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

[Eli Aran]

a appreciate your good will and kindness and the fact that you gave him a
direct response to his question overlooking the fact that he posted with
caplocks.
you are the rare, kind user that has answers and politeness.
thank you for not growling at the person who asked the question.
this thread has been going on too long and the other posters in it, fail to
level with me and understand that people not only have questions but also
feelings and especially the elderly non-computer-literate people who ask for
some help.
I GIVE UP!
i will no longer react to this thread...
Eli

"John Thomas Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:17:30 +0200, "Eli Aran"
> > wrote:
> >don't you see that someone new to computers is trying to get some help
here
> >and EVERYONE who decided to respond to him was angry at him for having
his
> >caps lock on?
>
> Everyone??? Nope... I pointed him at a book, and a program, and
> did not say one word about all caps
>
> John Thomas Smith
> http://www.direct2usales.com
> http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith


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[David]

"Eli Aran" > wrote in
:

>its also not very nice to growl and shout at newly retired computer
>illiterate people.
>have a heart!

They weren't growling or shgouting at him. They are simply informing him
of Usenet conventions. How else is anyone to learn? Don't read more into a
post then is written.

--

David

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