Swapping network cards

[Jackeline D]

I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.

I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
PC.

I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
to use.

I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
between those two ethernet sockets.

What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
I am using?

[Yves Leclerc]

Reboots!

"Jackeline D" > wrote in message
...
> I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
>
> I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
> PC.
>
> I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
> to use.
>
> I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
> between those two ethernet sockets.
>
> What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
> I am using?

[Ken Wickes [MSFT]]

On the PC probably nothing. Some cable modems (mine at least) won't let you
change the NIC it is connected to, so you would have to reset (or power
down/power up) the cable modem.

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"Jackeline D" > wrote in message
...
> I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
>
> I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
> PC.
>
> I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
> to use.
>
> I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
> between those two ethernet sockets.
>
> What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
> I am using?

[Lurch]

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:15:43 GMT, in uk.telecom.broadband Jackeline D
> strung together this:

>I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
>
>I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
>PC.
>
>I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
>to use.
>
>I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
>between those two ethernet sockets.
>
>What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
>I am using?

You'd be better yourself a cheapo 10\100Mbps hub for under a tenner.
You can use both PC's on the net at once then and share files etc..
Something like this one will do the job,
http://tinyurl.com/34u3q
...

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

[CheshireCat]

"Jackeline D" > wrote in message
...
> I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
>
> I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
> PC.
>
> I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
> to use.
>
> I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
> between those two ethernet sockets.
>
> What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
> I am using?

You shouldn't need to make any windows config changes but.......
As you're with NTL you'll need to register the 2nd nic when you attempt to
go online, in the same way as you did with the 1st one when you started with
them. I think they'll allow upto 4 nics registered to each account at any
one time.
I can't remember the exact procedure for doing this, maybe they've given you
some info. If you're lucky then any attempt to connect to the www using the
2nd card will lead to your browser going straight to the registration page.
Make sure you have your PID and other NTL information available.
There's also the option of setting up the 2nd card with a spoofed MAC
address so it looks to ntls servers as though you're connecting using the
1st card. I won't go into the hows and whys as I think the first option is
less messy.


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[Joe Bloggs]

"Jackeline D" > wrote in message
...
> I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.

Where else :)

>
> I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
> PC.
>
> I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
> to use.
>
> I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
> between those two ethernet sockets.
>
> What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
> I am using?

You must do the following each time you change to a different ethernet
interface on your PC.
You must power off the cable modem
You must power off the PC
You must power on the cable modem and wait for a steady Sync and Rdy
You must power on the PC

But you knew that anyway because that's what Ntl support told you.

Joe

[Yves Leclerc]

You may have been unlucky and hit the max change count. I did not have to
re-activate with my NIC swapping.

"mark7" > wrote in message
news:Ec71c.24583$qL1.15453@fed1read02...
> Change the ethernet card and you'll probably have to go through the
> XP activation process again; at least I did.
>
> "Jackeline D" > wrote in message
...
> > I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
> >
> > I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
> > PC.
> >
> > I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
> > to use.
> >
> > I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
> > between those two ethernet sockets.
> >
> > What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
> > I am using?
>
>

[Alex Nichol]

Jackeline D wrote:

>I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
>
>I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
>PC.
>
>I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
>to use.
>
>I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
>between those two ethernet sockets.
>
>What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
>I am using?

You will need to r-click on the old one in Network Connections and
Disable it to have it out of the way. Then power off, swap the
connection over, power up and make another LAN connection in Network
Connections, to use the new connection and register this one with NTL as
a connection for your account, in the same way as you did initially (see
the setup booklet). I don't think it matters having two such
connections registered (a friend recently changed his machine, and there
was no comment). You would have to disable one and then enable the
other in order to switch over in future


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[Kráftéé]

Lurch wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:15:43 GMT, in uk.telecom.broadband Jackeline
> D > strung together this:
>
>> I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
>>
>> I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
>> PC.
>>
>> I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now
>> want to use.
>>
>> I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
>> between those two ethernet sockets.
>>
>> What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet
>> socket I am using?
>
> You'd be better yourself a cheapo 10\100Mbps hub for under a tenner.
> You can use both PC's on the net at once then and share files etc..
> Something like this one will do the job,
> http://tinyurl.com/34u3q

Make that a router & it will work, a hub won't without some third party
software (such as Sygate so I've been informed). NTL only allocate 1 IP...

[Jackeline D]

(Lurch) wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:15:43 GMT, in uk.telecom.broadband
> Jackeline D > strung together this:
>
>>I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
>>
>>I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my
>>old PC.
>>
>>I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now
>>want to use.
>>
>>I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
>>between those two ethernet sockets.
>>
>>What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet
>>socket I am using?



> You'd be better yourself a cheapo 10\100Mbps hub for under a
> tenner. You can use both PC's on the net at once then and share
> files etc.. Something like this one will do the job,
>
> http://tinyurl.com/34u3q
>

Wow. That link points to a very cheap "hub". Is this the same as a
"router"?

Does it have all the features and functions I might need? I don't
want to find that it is lacking in something which I later need to
use.

If I spend an extra £5 rather than go for ultra rock bottom pricing
then will I get something noticeably better?

[Joe Bloggs]

"Jackeline D" > wrote in message
...
> "Joe Bloggs" > wrote:
>
> >> I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my
> >> old PC.
> >>
> >> I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I
> >> now want to use.
> >>
> >> I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
> >> between those two ethernet sockets.
> >>
> >> What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet
> >> socket I am using?
> >
> > You must do the following each time you change to a different
> > ethernet interface on your PC.
> > You must power off the cable modem
> > You must power off the PC
> > You must power on the cable modem and wait for a steady Sync and
> > Rdy You must power on the PC
>
> So far, so good and I agree. But this next bit I migth quibble over:
>
> >
> > But you knew that anyway because that's what Ntl support told
> > you.
>
> ALthough I don't know much about networking there are times when I
> think that NTL support know even less than I do (if you can believe
> that).

I can understand that but I don't mean to be critical of Ntl support or any
ISP's support.
They have to deal with everyone from people who've just bought a Windows PC
and have no clue how to use it, to people who think they are experts but
aren't. They will also have to deal with many people who think that the ISP
must be to blame for a problem which is really caused by the user being
unable to configure their equipment properly because they don't have the
experience. Not to mention those who will think that the virus/trojan they
got must be their ISP's fault.

When you call they have probably just finished dealing with someone else,
and there's no way they can know what the next customer's experience level
may be, or may not be.
A quick google found this, there are probably other sites.
http://www.techcomedy.com/users/submitted_content.php?nick=Mikkoman

Someone like yourself probably has no need of the ISP's support line unless
there's an obvious problem like sync and rdy have gone out or it won't give
you an IP address no matter what you do. You can get all the help you need
from newsgroups.

Joe

[Joe Bloggs]

"Jackeline D" > wrote in message
...
> (Lurch) wrote:
>
[cut]
>
> > You'd be better yourself a cheapo 10\100Mbps hub for under a
> > tenner. You can use both PC's on the net at once then and share
> > files etc.. Something like this one will do the job,
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/34u3q
> >
>
> Wow. That link points to a very cheap "hub". Is this the same as a
> "router"?

Many people connect their Ntl cable modem to a hub/switch and then to two or
more PCs.
Then they wonder why only one of the PCs gets an IP address and the others
get nowhere.

However you can share your connection between two or more PCs using a router
designed for sharing a home Internet connection.
This is a good idea because the router also acts as a firewall and then
there is no need to turn on the firewall on an XP PC connected to the
router.
You can also leave file & print sharing on because the router will isolate
it from the Internet. You can then share files between your own PCs.

Joe

>
> Does it have all the features and functions I might need? I don't
> want to find that it is lacking in something which I later need to
> use.
>
> If I spend an extra £5 rather than go for ultra rock bottom pricing
> then will I get something noticeably better?

[Jackeline D]

"Joe Bloggs" > wrote:

>> I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my
>> old PC.
>>
>> I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I
>> now want to use.
>>
>> I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
>> between those two ethernet sockets.
>>
>> What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet
>> socket I am using?
>
> You must do the following each time you change to a different
> ethernet interface on your PC.
> You must power off the cable modem
> You must power off the PC
> You must power on the cable modem and wait for a steady Sync and
> Rdy You must power on the PC

So far, so good and I agree. But this next bit I migth quibble over:

>
> But you knew that anyway because that's what Ntl support told
> you.

ALthough I don't know much about networking there are times when I
think that NTL support know even less than I do (if you can believe
that).

[mark7]

Change the ethernet card and you'll probably have to go through the
XP activation process again; at least I did.

"Jackeline D" > wrote in message ...
> I'm connected to NTL cable here in the UK.
>
> I connect to the Net via an ethernet card which I took from my old
> PC.
>
> I also have got an ethernet socket on my motherboard which I now want
> to use.
>
> I would like to be able swap the modem connection back & forth
> between those two ethernet sockets.
>
> What steps, if any, must I do each time I change the ethernet socket
> I am using?