Re: Bootable Partition

[Cerridwen]

Chris wrote:
> I have just ordered a new computer using Windows XP Professional.
> The store asked if I wished the (120GB) HDD to be partitioned. The
> answer was yes but in the way I have it in the PC to be replaced
> which uses Windows 98. I partitioned that, using Partition Magic, to
> have 2 bootable partitions (using BootMagic to do so) one for regular
> use the other for games (e.g. FS 2000 and others). The object was to
> optimise the games partition, keep it entirely separate from the rest
> of the computer to avoid those problems attributed to games which
> reset and generally foul up the system! I was told this could not be
> done. I could have 2 partitions but one would be a 'C' drive and the
> othe a 'D' drive and the PC would ALWAYS boot from 'C' - not what I
> want at all!
>
> Can I partition the 120GB HDD (using Partition Magic and Boot Magic
> or equivalents) as I did with my Win 98 PC? Each partition is
> separately bootable, I have to choose which at bootup, and the
> 'other' partition is not 'seen' by the one booted. This in turn
> requires each partition to have everything needed installed
> separately i.e. duplicating the software installation for 2
> partitions or triplicating for 3 etc. If this is the way to achieve
> my objective, how does Microsoft react to Win XP being installed IN
> THE ONE PC 2 or more times, each being required to be separately
> registered etc.
>
> I would appreciate a suitable solution to my desire to keep the 2
> partitions separate without needing the purchase of XP twice!!

You can use PM, but you will (probably) have to purchase an upgrade. Only
the latest version (8) is truly XP compatible - 7 claims to be, but it has
size restrictions, 6 and earlier will may install but they will NOT run.

[Harry Ohrn]

Hi Chris. I do not speak for Microsoft. However according to the EULA
(License Agreement) a user is

[quote] * Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Product on a single
computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer").

so that indicates pretty clearly that you are not authorized to dual boot XP
if you use the same license to install to each partition even though you can
only run partition at a time.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Chris" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> ----- Cerridwen wrote: -----
>
> Chris wrote:
> > I have just ordered a new computer using Windows XP Professional.
> > The store asked if I wished the (120GB) HDD to be partitioned. The
> > answer was yes but in the way I have it in the PC to be replaced
> > which uses Windows 98. I partitioned that, using Partition Magic,
to
> > have 2 bootable partitions (using BootMagic to do so) one for
regular
> > use the other for games (e.g. FS 2000 and others). The object was
to
> > optimise the games partition, keep it entirely separate from the
rest
> > of the computer to avoid those problems attributed to games which
> > reset and generally foul up the system! I was told this could not
be
> > done. I could have 2 partitions but one would be a 'C' drive and
the
> > othe a 'D' drive and the PC would ALWAYS boot from 'C' - not what
I
> > want at all!
> >> Can I partition the 120GB HDD (using Partition Magic and Boot
Magic
> > or equivalents) as I did with my Win 98 PC? Each partition is
> > separately bootable, I have to choose which at bootup, and the
> > 'other' partition is not 'seen' by the one booted. This in turn
> > requires each partition to have everything needed installed
> > separately i.e. duplicating the software installation for 2
> > partitions or triplicating for 3 etc. If this is the way to
achieve
> > my objective, how does Microsoft react to Win XP being installed IN
> > THE ONE PC 2 or more times, each being required to be separately
> > registered etc.
> >> I would appreciate a suitable solution to my desire to keep the 2
> > partitions separate without needing the purchase of XP twice!!
>
> You can use PM, but you will (probably) have to purchase an upgrade.
Only
> the latest version (8) is truly XP compatible - 7 claims to be, but
it has
> size restrictions, 6 and earlier will may install but they will NOT
run.
>
> Thanks, Cerridwen, for your reply. I don't mind upgrading to BM 8 if
it will do the jpb with XP but what about registering XP twice to validate
the one copy if I have 2 separately bootable (only one at a time)
partitions? Do Microsoft recognise this situation and permit such
registration or is there another way to resolve this?
>

[Cerridwen]

Harry Ohrn wrote:
> Hi Chris. I do not speak for Microsoft. However according to the EULA
> (License Agreement) a user is
>
> [quote] * Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
> display and run one copy of the Product on a single
> computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
> ("Workstation Computer").
>
> so that indicates pretty clearly that you are not authorized to dual
> boot XP if you use the same license to install to each partition even
> though you can only run partition at a time.

Er, Harry, it states one COMPUTER, not one PARTITION. Installing the same
licence on a second/third/fourth or even fifth partition is perfectly
permissible as it's still the same COMPUTER!

So your interpretation is flawed.

[Cerridwen]

Chris wrote:
> Thanks to Harry Ohm and Squire for confirming V8 of PM and BM will
> work with XP just as my V4 worked with Win 98. I am not at all happy
> that most likely MS would insist that only one copy of my purchased
> XP can be used and if I wish to have 2 or more partitions in ONE PC I
> am legally required to purchase a separate XP for each. I find this
> totally unreasonable and sincerely hope a literal interpretation of
> the 'one copy per computer' is not in fact extended to bootable
> partitions of which only ONE can be used at a time. Unfortunately I
> have so far not been able to contact anyone at MS to obtain a
> definitive and authoritive answer!
>
> Thanks any for resolving the technical part - I hope the other
> question can be resolved favourably!
>

Chris,

See my reply to Harry.

[Harry Ohrn]

"Cerridwen" > wrote in message
...
> Harry Ohrn wrote:
> > Hi Chris. I do not speak for Microsoft. However according to the EULA
> > (License Agreement) a user is
> >
> > [quote] * Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
> > display and run one copy of the Product on a single
> > computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
> > ("Workstation Computer").
> >
> > so that indicates pretty clearly that you are not authorized to dual
> > boot XP if you use the same license to install to each partition even
> > though you can only run partition at a time.
>
> Er, Harry, it states one COMPUTER, not one PARTITION. Installing the same
> licence on a second/third/fourth or even fifth partition is perfectly
> permissible as it's still the same COMPUTER!
>
> So your interpretation is flawed.
>

With all due respect I do not see how you interpret the EULA to mean that
multiple booting is fine. It says "one copy on one computer" . I interpret
one to mean one. If you have 2 partitions and plan to dual boot you would
install two copies on one computer. If you use the same license to install
to each partition you would be installing two copies of the same license to
one computer which the EULA clearly states is a violation.
--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp