.NET Framework (from Windows Update)

[* ProteanThread *]

Since Windows 98 it has been available as an update for Windows. I
notice that more and more programs (some freeware, some commercial)
are requiring this now even though it's been around for a few years.
Its even shown as an update for Windows XP. My two questions are:

1. Is it "REALLY" SpyWare ?

2. How does it affect system performance, overall ?

I've been avoiding it as long as possible 'cause I've heard only
"rumors" that some consider it SpyWare. Is it true ? Can these
arguments either way be substantiated or disproved ?

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

1. No.
2. Does not adversely affect system performance.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

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"* ProteanThread *" > wrote in message:
om...

| Since Windows 98 it has been available as an update for Windows. I
| notice that more and more programs (some freeware, some commercial)
| are requiring this now even though it's been around for a few years.
| Its even shown as an update for Windows XP. My two questions are:
|
| 1. Is it "REALLY" SpyWare ?
|
| 2. How does it affect system performance, overall ?
|
| I've been avoiding it as long as possible 'cause I've heard only
| "rumors" that some consider it SpyWare. Is it true ? Can these
| arguments either way be substantiated or disproved ?

[Daniel Roth]

..NET Framework is an API used by Visual Studio .NET
I use it when creating my programs, since there are a lot of neat stuff you
can do very easily with it :-)

/Daniel Roth

"* ProteanThread *" > skrev i meddelandet
om...
> Since Windows 98 it has been available as an update for Windows. I
> notice that more and more programs (some freeware, some commercial)
> are requiring this now even though it's been around for a few years.
> Its even shown as an update for Windows XP. My two questions are:
>
> 1. Is it "REALLY" SpyWare ?
>
> 2. How does it affect system performance, overall ?
>
> I've been avoiding it as long as possible 'cause I've heard only
> "rumors" that some consider it SpyWare. Is it true ? Can these
> arguments either way be substantiated or disproved ?

[Bob Adkins]

On 9 Mar 2004 13:47:15 -0800, (* ProteanThread *) wrote:

>Since Windows 98 it has been available as an update for Windows. I
>notice that more and more programs (some freeware, some commercial)
>are requiring this now even though it's been around for a few years.
>Its even shown as an update for Windows XP. My two questions are:
>
>1. Is it "REALLY" SpyWare ?

No.

>2. How does it affect system performance, overall ?

I don't even notice it. Although I did not appreciate the large size, it
doesn't affect any but the tiniest hard drives.

>I've been avoiding it as long as possible 'cause I've heard only
>"rumors" that some consider it SpyWare. Is it true ? Can these
>arguments either way be substantiated or disproved ?

I avoided it for a long time too. I was advised by some people who code dot
net software that it really doesn't affect system performance. They were
right. I don't notice any degradation in performance.

There's a lot of nice software that won't run without the dot net
extensions, and it would be foolish to miss out on them.

Bob

Remove "kins" from address to reply.

[Bob Adkins]

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:39:16 +0100, MLC > wrote:


>I'd like to know if it's true that installing it the automatic login at
>startup is lost.

I think it did zap my auto login. At any rate, I restored the auto login.

Bob

Remove "kins" from address to reply.

[Mark R. Blain]

On 9 Mar 2004 13:47:15 -0800, * ProteanThread * wrote:

> Since Windows 98 it has been available as an update for Windows. I
> notice that more and more programs (some freeware, some commercial)
> are requiring this now even though it's been around for a few years.
> Its even shown as an update for Windows XP. My two questions are:
>
> 1. Is it "REALLY" SpyWare ?
>
> 2. How does it affect system performance, overall ?
>
> I've been avoiding it as long as possible 'cause I've heard only
> "rumors" that some consider it SpyWare. Is it true ? Can these
> arguments either way be substantiated or disproved ?

It's not spyware, it's a powerful environment to speed software
development that will even be emulated soon on non-Microsoft platforms
(http://www.go-mono.com/). Among many other things that it's good
for, .NET is said to make it easier to develop programs which
implement Digital Rights Management. Cynics feel that *DRM* may
infringe on their privacy, so they fret about .NET, even though DRM is
a separate issue.

(If you play a copyrighted song or video and your computer connects to
the internet to make sure you have permission, that's not spyware,
it's part of DRM... and it's inevitable.)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management>

If you want a program that uses .NET, go ahead and install it. For
commercial programs, you may even find .NET comes on the program's CD.
..NET is big, but it's not harmful.
--
Mark R. Blain,
(change .INVALID to .NET to reply)

P.S. TIP: Cross-posting a message to more than three newsgroups tends
to make Usenet providers drop it as "SPAM", so LESS people may see it.
Browse existing messages to figure out which groups to try.

[javalab]

"MLC" > ha scritto
> mercoledì 10/mar/2004 _Bob Adkins_ ha scritto:
>
> > oided it for a long time too. I was advised by some people who code dot
> > net software that it really doesn't affect system performance. They were
> > right. I don't notice any degradation in performance.
> >
> > There's a lot of nice software that won't run without the dot net
> > extensions, and it would be foolish to miss out on them.
>
> I'd like to know if it's true that installing it the automatic login at
> startup is lost.
> Thanks,
> --
> Maria Luisa C - 10/03/04 9.34.53, here.
> Tutorial e FAQ in italiano su Dialog:
> http://fido.altervista.org/Dialog/dialog.php

most ms updates change some settings.

in ie, as search engine i use google, and every ie update restores msn.

anyway, the auto logon can be easily set with tweakui from the powertoys.
i've been using it from win95 and can find it in tweakui2000, but dont know
whether an xp version exixts.

the system person who works in our lan anyway told me he prefers not to use
the autologon: if windows gets in trouble, it might make an eternal
boot-loop-boot...

just a note: in this machine, italy, the \winnt\mirosoft.net folder totals
78.8 mb.
no special notes overall about system performance.

here below is the google.reg for switching from msn to google in the left
pane of ie. just save the lines with notepad as google.reg, right clic it ->
insert into registry (might be different in english. sorry, i'm translating
from italian).
i always install it when i setup a new machine for me.
*** try at your own risk ***

maria luisa, se non mi sono spiegato fammi sapere :)
javalab chiocciola tin punto it
--
hth, ciao, j.
http://www.sundaysw.com


------- begin google.reg -------------------------------
REGEDIT4


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]
"Search Page"="http://www.google.com"
"Search Bar"="http://www.google.com/ie"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL]
""="http://www.google.com/keyword/%s"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search]
"SearchAssistant"="http://www.google.com/ie"

------- end google.reg -------------------------------