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EBMCS03
March 19th 04, 08:23 PM
Anyone know when the SP2 release date is? Seems like I
need something in there to fix my TV Tuner thats hanging
my system. goto www.microsoft.com and type this in the
search " 817589 " and it will come up.

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
March 19th 04, 08:42 PM
Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1012162

Most likely a few months.
RC1 of SP 2 is released today, but it is not intended for general use.

It is unsupported and use strictly at your own risk.

Did you see this:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817589
You need to call Microsoft directly as referenced in the article.
State you are calling about a hotfix and you will not be asked for a
credit card number.

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"EBMCS03" > wrote in message
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> Anyone know when the SP2 release date is? Seems like I
> need something in there to fix my TV Tuner thats hanging
> my system. goto www.microsoft.com and type this in the
> search " 817589 " and it will come up.

Ken Blake, MVP
March 19th 04, 08:42 PM
In ,
EBMCS03 > typed:

> Anyone know when the SP2 release date is?


No date has yet been announced, but most estimates are that it
will be sometime this summer.

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David Nimon
March 19th 04, 09:42 PM
What do you figure...........

About a week before the first security patch for SP2? <g>


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"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
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> In ,
> EBMCS03 > typed:
>
> > Anyone know when the SP2 release date is?
>
>
> No date has yet been announced, but most estimates are that it
> will be sometime this summer.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
March 19th 04, 10:23 PM
According to the article you posted, that fix is not for general use so its
unlikely it will be in SP2. The article gives instructions for obtaining
the fix directly from Microsoft. You will need to contact them following
the instructions in the article you posted.

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Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
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"EBMCS03" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone know when the SP2 release date is? Seems like I
> need something in there to fix my TV Tuner thats hanging
> my system. goto www.microsoft.com and type this in the
> search " 817589 " and it will come up.

Torgeir Bakken (MVP)
March 19th 04, 11:04 PM
"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" wrote:

> According to the article you posted, that fix is not for general use so its
> unlikely it will be in SP2.

Hi

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817589

Date Time Version Size File name
01-Apr-2003 09:37 5.3.2600.1193 45,440 Stream.sys


This file is a common file that comes with the OS for a standard
installation, so any updates to it in a hotfix will also be
implemented in the next service pack.

The version number for this file in SP2 Release Candidate 1 (now
available for public download) is 5.3.2600.2096, a higher version
number than the one in the 817589 fix, this indicates that 817589
is included in SP2.

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torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
March 20th 04, 01:23 AM
Thanks, Torgeir. The problem is, the article claims the fix is only for a
specific issue and it doesn't apply to everyone so they may not include it
as a basic hotfix for all systems.

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Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" > wrote in message
...
> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" wrote:
>
>> According to the article you posted, that fix is not for general use so
>> its
>> unlikely it will be in SP2.
>
> Hi
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817589
>
> Date Time Version Size File name
> 01-Apr-2003 09:37 5.3.2600.1193 45,440 Stream.sys
>
>
> This file is a common file that comes with the OS for a standard
> installation, so any updates to it in a hotfix will also be
> implemented in the next service pack.
>
> The version number for this file in SP2 Release Candidate 1 (now
> available for public download) is 5.3.2600.2096, a higher version
> number than the one in the 817589 fix, this indicates that 817589
> is included in SP2.
>
> --
> torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
> the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx
>
>

Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)
March 20th 04, 03:23 AM
Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) wrote:

> Thanks, Torgeir. The problem is, the article claims the fix is only for a
> specific issue and it doesn't apply to everyone so they may not include it
> as a basic hotfix for all systems.
Hi

I have never heard of a public hotfix (a.k.a. a hotfix documented in
the KB) that modifies common system files that is not implemented in
a later service pack.


Anyway, take a closer look at the KB for the hotfix in question,
especially the last line in the quoted text below:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817589

<quote>
A supported fix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only
intended to correct the problem described in this article. Only
apply it to systems that are experiencing this specific problem.
This fix may receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not
severely affected by this problem, Microsoft recommends that you
wait for the next Windows XP service pack that contains this fix.
</quote>

--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
March 20th 04, 03:45 AM
You're right, I'm sorry, I missed the last line. Thanks for the heads up.

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Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" > wrote in message
...
> Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Torgeir. The problem is, the article claims the fix is only for
>> a specific issue and it doesn't apply to everyone so they may not include
>> it as a basic hotfix for all systems.
> Hi
>
> I have never heard of a public hotfix (a.k.a. a hotfix documented in
> the KB) that modifies common system files that is not implemented in
> a later service pack.
>
>
> Anyway, take a closer look at the KB for the hotfix in question,
> especially the last line in the quoted text below:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817589
>
> <quote>
> A supported fix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only
> intended to correct the problem described in this article. Only
> apply it to systems that are experiencing this specific problem.
> This fix may receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not
> severely affected by this problem, Microsoft recommends that you
> wait for the next Windows XP service pack that contains this fix.
> </quote>
>
> --
> torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
> the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx

Alex Nichol
March 20th 04, 04:22 PM
Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) wrote:

>Thanks, Torgeir. The problem is, the article claims the fix is only for a
>specific issue and it doesn't apply to everyone so they may not include it
>as a basic hotfix for all systems.


That is usually because the fix has not yet had widespread testing, so
they do not want yet to put it in regular windows update: they supply it
to those identified as having the problem, so as to get reports back 'it
did [not] work'. Normally though they get into the next SP, and it is
probably there being one more possible risk for the Beta testers,
Especially as it is a standard component, not a 'bolt on extra'



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