port forwarding ?

[DC]

Hi all..looking at my netgear port forwarding settings.
What do I need to plug in to allow messenger to work
correctly?

ports 5004 to 65535 need to opened? Isn't this a huge
risk?

Also the ip address should be what? The pc's address from
the router? The router has an address of 192.168.0.1

Think I have everything in there correctly but now I am
second guessing myself.

DC

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings DC,

Actually just opening the ports for audio/video (assuming that's what you're trying to get
working) won't help you. In order to use audio/video conversations through Messenger, your
router must support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) which will then open the necessary ports
(just two!) and close them what it's done on its own. Depending on what Netgear router you
have, there may be a firmware update which will allow you to use UPnP.

However, just for reference, to forward a port, you would put the local IP address of the
computer you want to forward to.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"DC" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all..looking at my netgear port forwarding settings.
> What do I need to plug in to allow messenger to work
> correctly?
>
> ports 5004 to 65535 need to opened? Isn't this a huge
> risk?
>
> Also the ip address should be what? The pc's address from
> the router? The router has an address of 192.168.0.1
>
> Think I have everything in there correctly but now I am
> second guessing myself.
>
> DC

[Markus Klein]

Hello Jonathan,

and what do I have to configure, if my Router does support UPnP?

Regards
Markus

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
> Greetings DC,
>
> Actually just opening the ports for audio/video (assuming that's what
you're trying to get
> working) won't help you. In order to use audio/video conversations
through Messenger, your
> router must support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) which will then open
the necessary ports
> (just two!) and close them what it's done on its own. Depending on what
Netgear router you
> have, there may be a firmware update which will allow you to use UPnP.
>
> However, just for reference, to forward a port, you would put the local IP
address of the
> computer you want to forward to.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "DC" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi all..looking at my netgear port forwarding settings.
> > What do I need to plug in to allow messenger to work
> > correctly?
> >
> > ports 5004 to 65535 need to opened? Isn't this a huge
> > risk?
> >
> > Also the ip address should be what? The pc's address from
> > the router? The router has an address of 192.168.0.1
> >
> > Think I have everything in there correctly but now I am
> > second guessing myself.
> >
> > DC
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Markus,

Absolutely nothing, it will do it all automatically. The only thing you might have to do is
turn on UPnP in the router configuration.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Markus Klein" > wrote in message
...
> Hello Jonathan,
>
> and what do I have to configure, if my Router does support UPnP?
>
> Regards
> Markus
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> ...
>> Greetings DC,
>>
>> Actually just opening the ports for audio/video (assuming that's what
> you're trying to get
>> working) won't help you. In order to use audio/video conversations
> through Messenger, your
>> router must support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) which will then open
> the necessary ports
>> (just two!) and close them what it's done on its own. Depending on what
> Netgear router you
>> have, there may be a firmware update which will allow you to use UPnP.
>>
>> However, just for reference, to forward a port, you would put the local IP
> address of the
>> computer you want to forward to.
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>> "DC" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Hi all..looking at my netgear port forwarding settings.
>> > What do I need to plug in to allow messenger to work
>> > correctly?
>> >
>> > ports 5004 to 65535 need to opened? Isn't this a huge
>> > risk?
>> >
>> > Also the ip address should be what? The pc's address from
>> > the router? The router has an address of 192.168.0.1
>> >
>> > Think I have everything in there correctly but now I am
>> > second guessing myself.
>> >
>> > DC
>>
>>
>
>

[DC]

Thanks Jonathan as always. My netgear router does have an
option for turning on upnp but when messenger opens it
tells me in options that I am connected through a non
upnp restricted NAT? This confuses me..

DC


>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Markus,
>
>Absolutely nothing, it will do it all automatically.
The only thing you might have to do is
>turn on UPnP in the router configuration.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Markus Klein" > wrote in message
...
>> Hello Jonathan,
>>
>> and what do I have to configure, if my Router does
support UPnP?
>>
>> Regards
>> Markus
>>
>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" >
schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> ...
>>> Greetings DC,
>>>
>>> Actually just opening the ports for audio/video
(assuming that's what
>> you're trying to get
>>> working) won't help you. In order to use audio/video
conversations
>> through Messenger, your
>>> router must support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
which will then open
>> the necessary ports
>>> (just two!) and close them what it's done on its
own. Depending on what
>> Netgear router you
>>> have, there may be a firmware update which will allow
you to use UPnP.
>>>
>>> However, just for reference, to forward a port, you
would put the local IP
>> address of the
>>> computer you want to forward to.
>>> ____________________________________________
>>> Jonathan Kay
>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>> Associate Expert
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>> "DC" > wrote in
message
>>> ...
>>> > Hi all..looking at my netgear port forwarding
settings.
>>> > What do I need to plug in to allow messenger to work
>>> > correctly?
>>> >
>>> > ports 5004 to 65535 need to opened? Isn't this a
huge
>>> > risk?
>>> >
>>> > Also the ip address should be what? The pc's
address from
>>> > the router? The router has an address of 192.168.0.1
>>> >
>>> > Think I have everything in there correctly but now
I am
>>> > second guessing myself.
>>> >
>>> > DC
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi DC,

Did you just switch it on? If so, you may need to reboot to see the change. Also, even
though it may have the option, it may not be completely integrated properly, so if you
haven't looked for a firmware update recently, I'd check to see if there is one that may
support UPnP "better" (there are some very poor implementations of UPnP).

You also might try turning on the UPnP software in Windows XP -- click Start, then Control
Panel, then Add or Remove Programs, then Add/Remove Windows Components, click Networking
Services, then the Details button, and verify that 'Internet Gateway Device Discovery and
Control Client' and 'Universal Plug and Play' are checked and click OK.

Also if you've run Steve Gibson's ridiculous UnPlugandPray application to turn off UPnP, you
can use it to turn it back on as well:
http://www.grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"DC" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Jonathan as always. My netgear router does have an
> option for turning on upnp but when messenger opens it
> tells me in options that I am connected through a non
> upnp restricted NAT? This confuses me..
>
> DC
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Markus,
>>
>>Absolutely nothing, it will do it all automatically.
> The only thing you might have to do is
>>turn on UPnP in the router configuration.
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"Markus Klein" > wrote in message
...
>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>>
>>> and what do I have to configure, if my Router does
> support UPnP?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Markus
>>>
>>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" >
> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>> ...
>>>> Greetings DC,
>>>>
>>>> Actually just opening the ports for audio/video
> (assuming that's what
>>> you're trying to get
>>>> working) won't help you. In order to use audio/video
> conversations
>>> through Messenger, your
>>>> router must support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
> which will then open
>>> the necessary ports
>>>> (just two!) and close them what it's done on its
> own. Depending on what
>>> Netgear router you
>>>> have, there may be a firmware update which will allow
> you to use UPnP.
>>>>
>>>> However, just for reference, to forward a port, you
> would put the local IP
>>> address of the
>>>> computer you want to forward to.
>>>> ____________________________________________
>>>> Jonathan Kay
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>> "DC" > wrote in
> message
>>>> ...
>>>> > Hi all..looking at my netgear port forwarding
> settings.
>>>> > What do I need to plug in to allow messenger to work
>>>> > correctly?
>>>> >
>>>> > ports 5004 to 65535 need to opened? Isn't this a
> huge
>>>> > risk?
>>>> >
>>>> > Also the ip address should be what? The pc's
> address from
>>>> > the router? The router has an address of 192.168.0.1
>>>> >
>>>> > Think I have everything in there correctly but now
> I am
>>>> > second guessing myself.
>>>> >
>>>> > DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>

[DC]

Still has the same non upnp message after checking that
all is enabled in the system.

DC


>-----Original Message-----
>Thanks mate..just the info I was looking for.
>
>DC
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi DC,
>>
>>Did you just switch it on? If so, you may need to
>reboot to see the change. Also, even
>>though it may have the option, it may not be completely
>integrated properly, so if you
>>haven't looked for a firmware update recently, I'd
check
>to see if there is one that may
>>support UPnP "better" (there are some very poor
>implementations of UPnP).
>>
>>You also might try turning on the UPnP software in
>Windows XP -- click Start, then Control
>>Panel, then Add or Remove Programs, then Add/Remove
>Windows Components, click Networking
>>Services, then the Details button, and verify
>that 'Internet Gateway Device Discovery and
>>Control Client' and 'Universal Plug and Play' are
>checked and click OK.
>>
>>Also if you've run Steve Gibson's ridiculous
>UnPlugandPray application to turn off UPnP, you
>>can use it to turn it back on as well:
>>http://www.grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"DC" > wrote in
>message
...
>>> Thanks Jonathan as always. My netgear router does
have
>an
>>> option for turning on upnp but when messenger opens it
>>> tells me in options that I am connected through a non
>>> upnp restricted NAT? This confuses me..
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Hi Markus,
>>>>
>>>>Absolutely nothing, it will do it all automatically.
>>> The only thing you might have to do is
>>>>turn on UPnP in the router configuration.
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>"Markus Klein" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> and what do I have to configure, if my Router does
>>> support UPnP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Markus
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" >
>>> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Greetings DC,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually just opening the ports for audio/video
>>> (assuming that's what
>>>>> you're trying to get
>>>>>> working) won't help you. In order to use
>audio/video
>>> conversations
>>>>> through Messenger, your
>>>>>> router must support Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
>>> which will then open
>>>>> the necessary ports
>>>>>> (just two!) and close them what it's done on its
>>> own. Depending on what
>>>>> Netgear router you
>>>>>> have, there may be a firmware update which will
>allow
>>> you to use UPnP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, just for reference, to forward a port, you
>>> would put the local IP
>>>>> address of the
>>>>>> computer you want to forward to.
>>>>>> ____________________________________________
>>>>>> Jonathan Kay
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>>>>>> Associate Expert
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>> Messenger Resources -
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DC" > wrote in
>>> message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> > Hi all..looking at my netgear port forwarding
>>> settings.
>>>>>> > What do I need to plug in to allow messenger to
>work
>>>>>> > correctly?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ports 5004 to 65535 need to opened? Isn't this a
>>> huge
>>>>>> > risk?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Also the ip address should be what? The pc's
>>> address from
>>>>>> > the router? The router has an address of
>192.168.0.1
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Think I have everything in there correctly but
now
>>> I am
>>>>>> > second guessing myself.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > DC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>