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pbusher
April 14th 03, 03:12 PM
Having had my motherboard fried and finding that e-
Machines uses proprietary cabling in their cases, I had to
transfer my CPU and hard drive to a new case. With
everything installed properly (pc reads from floppy & CD-
RW drives), WinXP will not fully boot up. The only
hardware transferred over to the new system besides the
CPU and hard drive is the floppy drive.

In normal mode the grey bar fills up across the screen and
the computer freezes. In safe mode the computer stops
after posting "multi(0)disk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32
\DRIVERS\Mup.sys" at the end of a long checklist.

OS=WinXPHome
The latest patches were from early February 2003.

Thanks for any help.


Mike

Dan DeStefano
April 14th 03, 03:47 PM
does the machine blue-screen and reboot? i have had this problem after
replacing computers' motherboards, but, unfortunately, have not been able to
figure out how to get it to work - i usually end up reinstalling the os. i
believe the problem has to do with windows product activation, which should
allow hardware changes, but if there are too many (or certain) changes, the
wpa wizard should reappear at boot. i have noticed this procedure to work
properly when replacing a cpu, but, for some reason, when upgrading a
motherboard the machines would blue screen. it may very well be that you
cannot replace a mobo on an xp machine without reinstalling the os (maybe
there is a ms representative that can answer this). anyway, i do not know
what to tell you except that i have experienced this problem and had to
reinstall.

Dan DeStefano


"pbusher" > wrote in message
...
> Having had my motherboard fried and finding that e-
> Machines uses proprietary cabling in their cases, I had to
> transfer my CPU and hard drive to a new case. With
> everything installed properly (pc reads from floppy & CD-
> RW drives), WinXP will not fully boot up. The only
> hardware transferred over to the new system besides the
> CPU and hard drive is the floppy drive.
>
> In normal mode the grey bar fills up across the screen and
> the computer freezes. In safe mode the computer stops
> after posting "multi(0)disk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32
> \DRIVERS\Mup.sys" at the end of a long checklist.
>
> OS=WinXPHome
> The latest patches were from early February 2003.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Mike
>

Dan DeStefano
April 14th 03, 03:47 PM
does the machine blue-screen and reboot? i have had this problem after
replacing computers' motherboards, but, unfortunately, have not been able to
figure out how to get it to work - i usually end up reinstalling the os. i
believe the problem has to do with windows product activation, which should
allow hardware changes, but if there are too many (or certain) changes, the
wpa wizard should reappear at boot. i have noticed this procedure to work
properly when replacing a cpu, but, for some reason, when upgrading a
motherboard the machines would blue screen. it may very well be that you
cannot replace a mobo on an xp machine without reinstalling the os (maybe
there is a ms representative that can answer this). anyway, i do not know
what to tell you except that i have experienced this problem and had to
reinstall.

Dan DeStefano


"pbusher" > wrote in message
...
> Having had my motherboard fried and finding that e-
> Machines uses proprietary cabling in their cases, I had to
> transfer my CPU and hard drive to a new case. With
> everything installed properly (pc reads from floppy & CD-
> RW drives), WinXP will not fully boot up. The only
> hardware transferred over to the new system besides the
> CPU and hard drive is the floppy drive.
>
> In normal mode the grey bar fills up across the screen and
> the computer freezes. In safe mode the computer stops
> after posting "multi(0)disk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32
> \DRIVERS\Mup.sys" at the end of a long checklist.
>
> OS=WinXPHome
> The latest patches were from early February 2003.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Mike
>

pbusher
April 14th 03, 04:00 PM
>-----Original Message-----
>does the machine blue-screen and reboot?

No, and it gives no error codes. It goes to the "We're
sorry but it didn't boot properly last time so choose one
of the following options" screen.

> i have had this problem after
>replacing computers' motherboards, but, unfortunately,
>have not been able to
>figure out how to get it to work - i usually end up
>reinstalling the os.

That's what I'm afraid I'll have to do. Alas it was OEM
on the e-Machines so I don't have a CD. :/

>i believe the problem has to do with windows product
>activation, which should allow hardware changes, but if
>there are too many (or >certain) changes, the
>wpa wizard should reappear at boot. i have noticed this
>procedure to work properly when replacing a cpu, but, for
>some reason, when upgrading a motherboard the machines
>would blue screen.

I never had this problem before XP. It must be
a "feature", because there are no bugs. :)


Mike

pbusher
April 14th 03, 04:00 PM
>-----Original Message-----
>does the machine blue-screen and reboot?

No, and it gives no error codes. It goes to the "We're
sorry but it didn't boot properly last time so choose one
of the following options" screen.

> i have had this problem after
>replacing computers' motherboards, but, unfortunately,
>have not been able to
>figure out how to get it to work - i usually end up
>reinstalling the os.

That's what I'm afraid I'll have to do. Alas it was OEM
on the e-Machines so I don't have a CD. :/

>i believe the problem has to do with windows product
>activation, which should allow hardware changes, but if
>there are too many (or >certain) changes, the
>wpa wizard should reappear at boot. i have noticed this
>procedure to work properly when replacing a cpu, but, for
>some reason, when upgrading a motherboard the machines
>would blue screen.

I never had this problem before XP. It must be
a "feature", because there are no bugs. :)


Mike

Bob
April 14th 03, 09:24 PM
Xref: 127.0.0.1 microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics:98686

Your new motherboard may require different drivers than the old Emachines
one. This could account for problems with your boot process. In this
situation you really need at least a restore CD for the OEM version of
windows or some way to perform a repair or fresh installation. You may have
a bigger problem though, even if you had the CD. The OEM version of windows
that came on your machince is PERMANENTLY tied to the hardware it was sold
with. If the hardware change is significant, (as it is with a motherboard
swap) you probably will not be able to activate Windows even if you could
get it to boot.
Bob

"pbusher" > wrote in message
...
> Having had my motherboard fried and finding that e-
> Machines uses proprietary cabling in their cases, I had to
> transfer my CPU and hard drive to a new case. With
> everything installed properly (pc reads from floppy & CD-
> RW drives), WinXP will not fully boot up. The only
> hardware transferred over to the new system besides the
> CPU and hard drive is the floppy drive.
>
> In normal mode the grey bar fills up across the screen and
> the computer freezes. In safe mode the computer stops
> after posting "multi(0)disk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32
> \DRIVERS\Mup.sys" at the end of a long checklist.
>
> OS=WinXPHome
> The latest patches were from early February 2003.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Mike
>

Bob
April 14th 03, 09:24 PM
Xref: 127.0.0.1 microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics:98686

Your new motherboard may require different drivers than the old Emachines
one. This could account for problems with your boot process. In this
situation you really need at least a restore CD for the OEM version of
windows or some way to perform a repair or fresh installation. You may have
a bigger problem though, even if you had the CD. The OEM version of windows
that came on your machince is PERMANENTLY tied to the hardware it was sold
with. If the hardware change is significant, (as it is with a motherboard
swap) you probably will not be able to activate Windows even if you could
get it to boot.
Bob

"pbusher" > wrote in message
...
> Having had my motherboard fried and finding that e-
> Machines uses proprietary cabling in their cases, I had to
> transfer my CPU and hard drive to a new case. With
> everything installed properly (pc reads from floppy & CD-
> RW drives), WinXP will not fully boot up. The only
> hardware transferred over to the new system besides the
> CPU and hard drive is the floppy drive.
>
> In normal mode the grey bar fills up across the screen and
> the computer freezes. In safe mode the computer stops
> after posting "multi(0)disk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32
> \DRIVERS\Mup.sys" at the end of a long checklist.
>
> OS=WinXPHome
> The latest patches were from early February 2003.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Mike
>

pbusher
April 14th 03, 11:30 PM
>-----Original Message-----
>Your new motherboard may require different drivers than
the old Emachines
>one. This could account for problems with your boot
process. In this
>situation you really need at least a restore CD for the
OEM version of
>windows or some way to perform a repair or fresh
installation. You may have
>a bigger problem though, even if you had the CD. The OEM
version of windows
>that came on your machince is PERMANENTLY tied to the
hardware it was sold
>with. If the hardware change is significant, (as it is
with a motherboard
>swap) you probably will not be able to activate Windows
even if you could
>get it to boot.
>Bob

OK. Let's assume I have to buy WinXP Home now. Can I get
the Upgrade (~$99), or should I get the OEM Version
(~$99), or the full version (~$199)?


Mike

pbusher
April 14th 03, 11:30 PM
>-----Original Message-----
>Your new motherboard may require different drivers than
the old Emachines
>one. This could account for problems with your boot
process. In this
>situation you really need at least a restore CD for the
OEM version of
>windows or some way to perform a repair or fresh
installation. You may have
>a bigger problem though, even if you had the CD. The OEM
version of windows
>that came on your machince is PERMANENTLY tied to the
hardware it was sold
>with. If the hardware change is significant, (as it is
with a motherboard
>swap) you probably will not be able to activate Windows
even if you could
>get it to boot.
>Bob

OK. Let's assume I have to buy WinXP Home now. Can I get
the Upgrade (~$99), or should I get the OEM Version
(~$99), or the full version (~$199)?


Mike

Bob
April 15th 03, 08:09 PM
If you have a "full" copy of windows 98, Me, or 2000 on a CD, you can buy
the upgrade. XP will ask you to insert the CD during installation to ensure
that you are eligible for the upgrade. If not you will have to buy the full
version. You could spend $99 on another OEM version, (
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=M17
-7500 ) but you will not be able to move it to another machine in the
future. If money is not a major consideration, I would suggest just buying
the full version in order to save yourself headaches in the future.
Hope that helps
Bob


"pbusher" > wrote in message
...
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Your new motherboard may require different drivers than
> the old Emachines
> >one. This could account for problems with your boot
> process. In this
> >situation you really need at least a restore CD for the
> OEM version of
> >windows or some way to perform a repair or fresh
> installation. You may have
> >a bigger problem though, even if you had the CD. The OEM
> version of windows
> >that came on your machince is PERMANENTLY tied to the
> hardware it was sold
> >with. If the hardware change is significant, (as it is
> with a motherboard
> >swap) you probably will not be able to activate Windows
> even if you could
> >get it to boot.
> >Bob
>
> OK. Let's assume I have to buy WinXP Home now. Can I get
> the Upgrade (~$99), or should I get the OEM Version
> (~$99), or the full version (~$199)?
>
>
> Mike

Bob
April 15th 03, 08:09 PM
If you have a "full" copy of windows 98, Me, or 2000 on a CD, you can buy
the upgrade. XP will ask you to insert the CD during installation to ensure
that you are eligible for the upgrade. If not you will have to buy the full
version. You could spend $99 on another OEM version, (
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=M17
-7500 ) but you will not be able to move it to another machine in the
future. If money is not a major consideration, I would suggest just buying
the full version in order to save yourself headaches in the future.
Hope that helps
Bob


"pbusher" > wrote in message
...
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Your new motherboard may require different drivers than
> the old Emachines
> >one. This could account for problems with your boot
> process. In this
> >situation you really need at least a restore CD for the
> OEM version of
> >windows or some way to perform a repair or fresh
> installation. You may have
> >a bigger problem though, even if you had the CD. The OEM
> version of windows
> >that came on your machince is PERMANENTLY tied to the
> hardware it was sold
> >with. If the hardware change is significant, (as it is
> with a motherboard
> >swap) you probably will not be able to activate Windows
> even if you could
> >get it to boot.
> >Bob
>
> OK. Let's assume I have to buy WinXP Home now. Can I get
> the Upgrade (~$99), or should I get the OEM Version
> (~$99), or the full version (~$199)?
>
>
> Mike

Dan DeStefano
December 5th 03, 12:16 AM
though it is true that the oem version is "tied" to your e-machines machine,
this does not mean you cannot upgrade, you can. what you cannot do is
transfer the os to another machine, entirely. after reinstalling the os
using the e-machines disk and successfully booting windows, you will have to
reactivate it. when attempting to reactivate windows you will get a message
like "...the hardware on this machine has changed significantly..." and you
will be prompted to call ms to reactivate. call the number for your area and
you will speak to a ms rep who will ask why you need to reactivate; just say
you have upgraded your machine and need to reactivate. the rep will then
provide you with a very long alpha-numeric number to enter, which will allow
you to activate windows. i have had to do this several times and, each time,
the process took no longer than five minutes, and the longest i have ever
had to wait on hold has been about 3 minutes.
the only wild card here would be whether or not the e-machines restore cd
will work. sometimes manufactrers will "lock" their disk images so that they
only install on specific hardware (namely the serial number on the mobo). if
this is the case, you can try calling e-machines for help, but you may,
indeed have to purchase a new copy of windows.

Dan DeStefano


"pbusher" > wrote in message
...
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Your new motherboard may require different drivers than
> the old Emachines
> >one. This could account for problems with your boot
> process. In this
> >situation you really need at least a restore CD for the
> OEM version of
> >windows or some way to perform a repair or fresh
> installation. You may have
> >a bigger problem though, even if you had the CD. The OEM
> version of windows
> >that came on your machince is PERMANENTLY tied to the
> hardware it was sold
> >with. If the hardware change is significant, (as it is
> with a motherboard
> >swap) you probably will not be able to activate Windows
> even if you could
> >get it to boot.
> >Bob
>
> OK. Let's assume I have to buy WinXP Home now. Can I get
> the Upgrade (~$99), or should I get the OEM Version
> (~$99), or the full version (~$199)?
>
>
> Mike

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