Ghost back-up to external USB2 drive

[David Shorthouse]

Hey folks,

This may be a little OT, but thought I would try my luck anyhow. I am
attempting to make a Norton Ghost file of my system drive onto an external
USB2 drive. I have followed the instructions in the Ghosting procedure to
the best of my abilities, but the drive is never recognized once the system
boots into "PC-DOS". Any suggestions on how to get this to work? I have
tried using both the USB 1.1 and 2 options in Ghost and have also attempted
to add the various usb-related system drivers to the boot procedure in
PC-DOS, but none of these seem to work.

Thanks,

Dave

[Crusty \(-: Old Bastard :-\)]

It can't be done. Removable drives are NOT recognized when you boot up in
DOS to restore the drive. Sorry!

"David Shorthouse" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hey folks,
>
> This may be a little OT, but thought I would try my luck anyhow. I am
> attempting to make a Norton Ghost file of my system drive onto an external
> USB2 drive. I have followed the instructions in the Ghosting procedure to
> the best of my abilities, but the drive is never recognized once the
system
> boots into "PC-DOS". Any suggestions on how to get this to work? I have
> tried using both the USB 1.1 and 2 options in Ghost and have also
attempted
> to add the various usb-related system drivers to the boot procedure in
> PC-DOS, but none of these seem to work.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
>

[sded]

Try Acronis True Image at www.acronis.com . It will recognize external
USB2 drives. There is a time-limited version on their website to verify
it works for you. Also a big discount for current Ghost users.
"David Shorthouse" > wrote:

>Hey folks,
>
> This may be a little OT, but thought I would try my luck anyhow. I am
>attempting to make a Norton Ghost file of my system drive onto an external
>USB2 drive. I have followed the instructions in the Ghosting procedure to
>the best of my abilities, but the drive is never recognized once the system
>boots into "PC-DOS". Any suggestions on how to get this to work? I have
>tried using both the USB 1.1 and 2 options in Ghost and have also attempted
>to add the various usb-related system drivers to the boot procedure in
>PC-DOS, but none of these seem to work.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave
>

[Airman Basic]

Hmmm, I was successful with help from http://darkehorse.web.com/

Try: http://www.pocketech.net/downloads/duse_4_4.zip

"Cypress USB Mass Storage Driver -New! Version 4.4 of DUSE.EXE now
supports USB 2.0!; WOW! What a great find. This 'universal' device
driver will work with USB Zip Drives, Hard Drives, CD-ROM drives, floppy
drives and something called MO drives. I was actually able to read the
contents of my USB CD-RW disk with this driver. Read the instructions
included with the package."


Crusty (-: Old ******* :-) wrote:

> It can't be done. Removable drives are NOT recognized when you boot up in
> DOS to restore the drive. Sorry!
>
> "David Shorthouse" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
>>Hey folks,
>>
>> This may be a little OT, but thought I would try my luck anyhow. I am
>>attempting to make a Norton Ghost file of my system drive onto an external
>>USB2 drive. I have followed the instructions in the Ghosting procedure to
>>the best of my abilities, but the drive is never recognized once the
>
> system
>
>>boots into "PC-DOS". Any suggestions on how to get this to work? I have
>>tried using both the USB 1.1 and 2 options in Ghost and have also
>
> attempted
>
>>to add the various usb-related system drivers to the boot procedure in
>>PC-DOS, but none of these seem to work.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>
>
>

[DT]

On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:25:12 GMT, "David Shorthouse"
> wrote:

> This may be a little OT, but thought I would try my luck anyhow. I am
>attempting to make a Norton Ghost file of my system drive onto an external
>USB2 drive. I have followed the instructions in the Ghosting procedure to
>the best of my abilities, but the drive is never recognized once the system
>boots into "PC-DOS". Any suggestions on how to get this to work? I have
>tried using both the USB 1.1 and 2 options in Ghost and have also attempted
>to add the various usb-related system drivers to the boot procedure in
>PC-DOS, but none of these seem to work.

I am using Ghost 2003, be sure to update it from Norton, and did an
image to an Iomega USB 2 external HD. Worked great. The files are on
the external HD if I need them.

The only problem I have is that our new Dell Laptop does not have an A
drive and neither Iomega or Norton have yet come up with a way to burn
a boot CD with the necessary files.

I could install Ghost on my Desktop, do the boot disks then do a CD
burn with the necessary files off of them; however, it is not very
high on my to do list. My primary concern is a good backup. If the
system fails I can recover the necessary data files.

Dave

[Crusty \(-: Old Bastard :-\)]

Bet you stored the image there during a windows session. Now, try to restore
from that external hard drive. You will, most likely, find that the drive is
NOT recognized when booting into DOS, which is where the restore is
performed from. The restore can not be performed when in windows! The
machine must reboot.

"DT" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:25:12 GMT, "David Shorthouse"
> > wrote:
>
> > This may be a little OT, but thought I would try my luck anyhow. I am
> >attempting to make a Norton Ghost file of my system drive onto an
external
> >USB2 drive. I have followed the instructions in the Ghosting procedure to
> >the best of my abilities, but the drive is never recognized once the
system
> >boots into "PC-DOS". Any suggestions on how to get this to work? I have
> >tried using both the USB 1.1 and 2 options in Ghost and have also
attempted
> >to add the various usb-related system drivers to the boot procedure in
> >PC-DOS, but none of these seem to work.
>
> I am using Ghost 2003, be sure to update it from Norton, and did an
> image to an Iomega USB 2 external HD. Worked great. The files are on
> the external HD if I need them.
>
> The only problem I have is that our new Dell Laptop does not have an A
> drive and neither Iomega or Norton have yet come up with a way to burn
> a boot CD with the necessary files.
>
> I could install Ghost on my Desktop, do the boot disks then do a CD
> burn with the necessary files off of them; however, it is not very
> high on my to do list. My primary concern is a good backup. If the
> system fails I can recover the necessary data files.
>
> Dave
>
>

[Kevin Davis³]

On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:54:16 -0400, "Crusty \(-: Old ******* :-\)"
> wrote:

>Bet you stored the image there during a windows session. Now, try to restore
>from that external hard drive. You will, most likely, find that the drive is
>NOT recognized when booting into DOS, which is where the restore is
>performed from. The restore can not be performed when in windows! The
>machine must reboot.
>

Not true. Ghost has had the ability to create a DOS boot disk that
has USB drivers that allows DOS to recognize USB for the last couple
versions now. Ghost also allows a USB peer to peer connection from
DOS.

From the Ghost Manual:

Norton Ghost includes the following features:

Backup fexibility: Back up directly to a wide range of hard drives and
removable media, including CD-R/RW drives, Firewire and USB hard
drives, DVD devices, Iomega, ZIP, and JAZ drives.

Support for Firewire, USB 1.1, USB 2.0: You can now use Norton Ghost
to backup, restore, and clone to and from Firewire, USB 1.1, USB 2.0
devices including hard disks and supported CD-R/RW and DVD drives.

In addition to saving a backup to a secondary partition or internal
hard disk, Norton Ghost can also save a backup to the following
external devices:

USB 1.1/2.0 hard drive and CD/DVD recordable devices.



Now if your version of Ghost is too old, then you wouldn't have this.
I think at least the last two versions have.


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What could possibly go wrong?

[David Shorthouse]

I beg to differ. This has been supported in Norton Ghost for quite some time
now.

Dave

"Crusty (-: Old ******* :-)" > wrote in
message ...
> It can't be done. Removable drives are NOT recognized when you boot up in
> DOS to restore the drive. Sorry!
>
> "David Shorthouse" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > This may be a little OT, but thought I would try my luck anyhow. I
am
> > attempting to make a Norton Ghost file of my system drive onto an
external
> > USB2 drive. I have followed the instructions in the Ghosting procedure
to
> > the best of my abilities, but the drive is never recognized once the
> system
> > boots into "PC-DOS". Any suggestions on how to get this to work? I have
> > tried using both the USB 1.1 and 2 options in Ghost and have also
> attempted
> > to add the various usb-related system drivers to the boot procedure in
> > PC-DOS, but none of these seem to work.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
>

[David Shorthouse]

Thanks for the URL and the information. I tried using DUSE, but it just
freezes up Ghost 2003. Actually, it doesn't really freeze, rather it takes a
dog's age to load (waited 5 minutes on one occasion) and I give up. Will
keep hunting for a solution.

Thanks.

> Hmmm, I was successful with help from http://darkehorse.web.com/
>
> Try: http://www.pocketech.net/downloads/duse_4_4.zip
>
> "Cypress USB Mass Storage Driver -New! Version 4.4 of DUSE.EXE now
> supports USB 2.0!; WOW! What a great find. This 'universal' device
> driver will work with USB Zip Drives, Hard Drives, CD-ROM drives, floppy
> drives and something called MO drives. I was actually able to read the
> contents of my USB CD-RW disk with this driver. Read the instructions
> included with the package."

[David Shorthouse]

Solved the problem. I found a "Maxtor"-supported ASPI USB driver on the
Symantec web site (even though my drive in a WD in an external, aluminum
case) and used it instead of the built-in ASPI driver for external drives.
Works like a charm now. If anyone is interested, here's the URL and
instructions:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/8f7dc138830563c888256c2200662ecd/ac128ae3b3da90fa88256cb0005f2a85?OpenDocument&sone=ghost_2003_tasks.html&stg=3&prod=Norton%20Ghost&ver=2003%20for%20Windows%202000/NT/Me/98/XP&base=http://www.symantec.com/tech
supp/ghost/&next=ghost_2003_contact_tscs_solve.html&src=sg&pcode=ghost&svy=

Sorry about the wrapped link.

Dave

"David Shorthouse" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hey folks,
>
> This may be a little OT, but thought I would try my luck anyhow. I am
> attempting to make a Norton Ghost file of my system drive onto an external
> USB2 drive. I have followed the instructions in the Ghosting procedure to
> the best of my abilities, but the drive is never recognized once the
system
> boots into "PC-DOS". Any suggestions on how to get this to work? I have
> tried using both the USB 1.1 and 2 options in Ghost and have also
attempted
> to add the various usb-related system drivers to the boot procedure in
> PC-DOS, but none of these seem to work.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
>

[Airman Basic]

To make this work, you may have to load the DUSE first, then hook up the
USB drive. Worked for me, anyway.

David Shorthouse wrote:
> Thanks for the URL and the information. I tried using DUSE, but it just
> freezes up Ghost 2003. Actually, it doesn't really freeze, rather it takes a
> dog's age to load (waited 5 minutes on one occasion) and I give up. Will
> keep hunting for a solution.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>>Hmmm, I was successful with help from http://darkehorse.web.com/
>>
>>Try: http://www.pocketech.net/downloads/duse_4_4.zip
>>
>>"Cypress USB Mass Storage Driver -New! Version 4.4 of DUSE.EXE now
>>supports USB 2.0!; WOW! What a great find. This 'universal' device
>>driver will work with USB Zip Drives, Hard Drives, CD-ROM drives, floppy
>>drives and something called MO drives. I was actually able to read the
>>contents of my USB CD-RW disk with this driver. Read the instructions
>>included with the package."
>
>
>