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Misha
December 6th 03, 09:05 PM
Hello,

In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power button so
that upon pressing it, the computer went into hibernation.
As far as I remember this was configurable via the Power
Options in the Control Panel.

After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to find these
options -- and pressing the same power button om my PC
just turns the power off -- instanteneously.

Please help...
Thank you very much,
Misha

Richard
December 6th 03, 09:05 PM
That is usually configurable through the computers bios.

"Misha" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
>
> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power button so
> that upon pressing it, the computer went into hibernation.
> As far as I remember this was configurable via the Power
> Options in the Control Panel.
>
> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to find these
> options -- and pressing the same power button om my PC
> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
>
> Please help...
> Thank you very much,
> Misha

Alvin A Brown
December 6th 03, 09:05 PM
Hi

Well it's possible when you upgraded to XP it got over written
which is one of the things that happens when you upgrade, it's
never a simple or easy process something always does not work

Alvin


Misha wrote:

> Hello,
>
> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power button so
> that upon pressing it, the computer went into hibernation.
> As far as I remember this was configurable via the Power
> Options in the Control Panel.
>
> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to find these
> options -- and pressing the same power button om my PC
> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
>
> Please help...
> Thank you very much,
> Misha

Misha
December 6th 03, 09:22 PM
But the question is how do I set this functionality in XP?
Since it worked in Win2000 and BIOS setting are the same
(I checked) I would assume XP would allow this
functionality...
Misha
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi
>
>Well it's possible when you upgraded to XP it got over
written
>which is one of the things that happens when you upgrade,
it's
>never a simple or easy process something always does not
work
>
>Alvin
>
>
>Misha wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power button
so
>> that upon pressing it, the computer went into
hibernation.
>> As far as I remember this was configurable via the Power
>> Options in the Control Panel.
>>
>> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to find
these
>> options -- and pressing the same power button om my PC
>> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
>>
>> Please help...
>> Thank you very much,
>> Misha
>
>.
>

Misha
December 6th 03, 09:22 PM
My BIOS settings are the same as they were in Win2000 -
only I do not see any option in the control panel that
would change the functionality of the PC's power button
(by power botton I mean a pushbutton on the front panel)

Misha
>-----Original Message-----
>That is usually configurable through the computers bios.
>
>"Misha" > wrote in message
...
>> Hello,
>>
>> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power button
so
>> that upon pressing it, the computer went into
hibernation.
>> As far as I remember this was configurable via the Power
>> Options in the Control Panel.
>>
>> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to find
these
>> options -- and pressing the same power button om my PC
>> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
>>
>> Please help...
>> Thank you very much,
>> Misha
>
>
>.
>

George Schloicka
December 6th 03, 09:22 PM
option should be under control panel, power options, advanced. If you are
having trouble finding the power options in control panel switch to classic
view.
"Misha" > wrote in message
...
> But the question is how do I set this functionality in XP?
> Since it worked in Win2000 and BIOS setting are the same
> (I checked) I would assume XP would allow this
> functionality...
> Misha
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi
> >
> >Well it's possible when you upgraded to XP it got over
> written
> >which is one of the things that happens when you upgrade,
> it's
> >never a simple or easy process something always does not
> work
> >
> >Alvin
> >
> >
> >Misha wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power button
> so
> >> that upon pressing it, the computer went into
> hibernation.
> >> As far as I remember this was configurable via the Power
> >> Options in the Control Panel.
> >>
> >> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to find
> these
> >> options -- and pressing the same power button om my PC
> >> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
> >>
> >> Please help...
> >> Thank you very much,
> >> Misha
> >
> >.
> >

Alex Nichol
December 6th 03, 09:25 PM
Misha wrote:

>
>In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power button so
>that upon pressing it, the computer went into hibernation.
>As far as I remember this was configurable via the Power
>Options in the Control Panel.

If you have ACPI support in action, then Control Panel - Power Options.
First ensure Hibernation is enabled on that page, and then in Advanced
select it in the 'When I push the Power button. . . ' pane


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows - File Systems)
Bournemouth, U.K.

Pavel A.
December 6th 03, 09:31 PM
WinXP and 2000 support hibernation in *either* ACPI or APM mode.
(Suspend works only in ACPI mode).
But XP will automatically dsable hibernation and hide it from control panel,
if your computer crashed during restart from hibernation. Microsoft found
that some BIOSes just don't support hibernation and decided to disable it in
this case to avoid data loss.

--PA

"Misha" > wrote in message
...
> This is exactly the problem -- this option is NOT under
> the advanced tab (it WAS there under Win2000) -- the
> advanced tab only has two chekboxes:
> - Always show icon on the taskbar
> - Prompt for password when computer resumes from standby
>
> Thanks,
> Misha
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >option should be under control panel, power options,
> advanced. If you are
> >having trouble finding the power options in control panel
> switch to classic
> >view.
> >"Misha" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> But the question is how do I set this functionality in
> XP?
> >> Since it worked in Win2000 and BIOS setting are the same
> >> (I checked) I would assume XP would allow this
> >> functionality...
> >> Misha
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Hi
> >> >
> >> >Well it's possible when you upgraded to XP it got over
> >> written
> >> >which is one of the things that happens when you
> upgrade,
> >> it's
> >> >never a simple or easy process something always does
> not
> >> work
> >> >
> >> >Alvin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Misha wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power
> button
> >> so
> >> >> that upon pressing it, the computer went into
> >> hibernation.
> >> >> As far as I remember this was configurable via the
> Power
> >> >> Options in the Control Panel.
> >> >>
> >> >> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to find
> >> these
> >> >> options -- and pressing the same power button om my
> PC
> >> >> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please help...
> >> >> Thank you very much,
> >> >> Misha
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Misha
December 6th 03, 09:33 PM
My computer did indeed crash a few times upon returning
from hibernation, however, the hibernation option is NOT
disabled -- only the options that reconfigure the
functionality of the power buttons are not displayed.

Misha


>-----Original Message-----
>WinXP and 2000 support hibernation in *either* ACPI or
APM mode.
>(Suspend works only in ACPI mode).
>But XP will automatically dsable hibernation and hide it
from control panel,
>if your computer crashed during restart from
hibernation. Microsoft found
>that some BIOSes just don't support hibernation and
decided to disable it in
>this case to avoid data loss.
>
>--PA
>
>"Misha" > wrote in message
...
>> This is exactly the problem -- this option is NOT under
>> the advanced tab (it WAS there under Win2000) -- the
>> advanced tab only has two chekboxes:
>> - Always show icon on the taskbar
>> - Prompt for password when computer resumes from
standby
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Misha
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >option should be under control panel, power options,
>> advanced. If you are
>> >having trouble finding the power options in control
panel
>> switch to classic
>> >view.
>> >"Misha" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> But the question is how do I set this functionality
in
>> XP?
>> >> Since it worked in Win2000 and BIOS setting are the
same
>> >> (I checked) I would assume XP would allow this
>> >> functionality...
>> >> Misha
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Hi
>> >> >
>> >> >Well it's possible when you upgraded to XP it got
over
>> >> written
>> >> >which is one of the things that happens when you
>> upgrade,
>> >> it's
>> >> >never a simple or easy process something always does
>> not
>> >> work
>> >> >
>> >> >Alvin
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Misha wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power
>> button
>> >> so
>> >> >> that upon pressing it, the computer went into
>> >> hibernation.
>> >> >> As far as I remember this was configurable via the
>> Power
>> >> >> Options in the Control Panel.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to
find
>> >> these
>> >> >> options -- and pressing the same power button om
my
>> PC
>> >> >> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please help...
>> >> >> Thank you very much,
>> >> >> Misha
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Pavel A.
December 6th 03, 09:34 PM
Hmm, I never seen this. Then, suppose it's combination of two bugs - of ACPI
BIOS and XP :(

"Misha" > wrote in message
...
> My computer did indeed crash a few times upon returning
> from hibernation, however, the hibernation option is NOT
> disabled -- only the options that reconfigure the
> functionality of the power buttons are not displayed.
>
> Misha
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >WinXP and 2000 support hibernation in *either* ACPI or
> APM mode.
> >(Suspend works only in ACPI mode).
> >But XP will automatically dsable hibernation and hide it
> from control panel,
> >if your computer crashed during restart from
> hibernation. Microsoft found
> >that some BIOSes just don't support hibernation and
> decided to disable it in
> >this case to avoid data loss.
> >
> >--PA
> >
> >"Misha" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> This is exactly the problem -- this option is NOT under
> >> the advanced tab (it WAS there under Win2000) -- the
> >> advanced tab only has two chekboxes:
> >> - Always show icon on the taskbar
> >> - Prompt for password when computer resumes from
> standby
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Misha
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >option should be under control panel, power options,
> >> advanced. If you are
> >> >having trouble finding the power options in control
> panel
> >> switch to classic
> >> >view.
> >> >"Misha" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> But the question is how do I set this functionality
> in
> >> XP?
> >> >> Since it worked in Win2000 and BIOS setting are the
> same
> >> >> (I checked) I would assume XP would allow this
> >> >> functionality...
> >> >> Misha
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Hi
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Well it's possible when you upgraded to XP it got
> over
> >> >> written
> >> >> >which is one of the things that happens when you
> >> upgrade,
> >> >> it's
> >> >> >never a simple or easy process something always does
> >> not
> >> >> work
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Alvin
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Misha wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hello,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power
> >> button
> >> >> so
> >> >> >> that upon pressing it, the computer went into
> >> >> hibernation.
> >> >> >> As far as I remember this was configurable via the
> >> Power
> >> >> >> Options in the Control Panel.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to
> find
> >> >> these
> >> >> >> options -- and pressing the same power button om
> my
> >> PC
> >> >> >> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Please help...
> >> >> >> Thank you very much,
> >> >> >> Misha
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Misha
December 6th 03, 09:56 PM
Is there a way to tell whether the PC is in ACPI mode?
Are there any potential XP fixes that might solve this
problem? (as I mentioned everything worked fine under
Win2000 - ie I was able to reconfigure the functionality
of the power button in the Power Option's Advanced tab)

>-----Original Message-----
>Hmm, I never seen this. Then, suppose it's combination of
two bugs - of ACPI
>BIOS and XP :(
>
>"Misha" > wrote in message
...
>> My computer did indeed crash a few times upon returning
>> from hibernation, however, the hibernation option is NOT
>> disabled -- only the options that reconfigure the
>> functionality of the power buttons are not displayed.
>>
>> Misha
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >WinXP and 2000 support hibernation in *either* ACPI or
>> APM mode.
>> >(Suspend works only in ACPI mode).
>> >But XP will automatically dsable hibernation and hide
it
>> from control panel,
>> >if your computer crashed during restart from
>> hibernation. Microsoft found
>> >that some BIOSes just don't support hibernation and
>> decided to disable it in
>> >this case to avoid data loss.
>> >
>> >--PA
>> >
>> >"Misha" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> This is exactly the problem -- this option is NOT
under
>> >> the advanced tab (it WAS there under Win2000) -- the
>> >> advanced tab only has two chekboxes:
>> >> - Always show icon on the taskbar
>> >> - Prompt for password when computer resumes from
>> standby
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Misha
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >option should be under control panel, power options,
>> >> advanced. If you are
>> >> >having trouble finding the power options in control
>> panel
>> >> switch to classic
>> >> >view.
>> >> >"Misha" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> But the question is how do I set this
functionality
>> in
>> >> XP?
>> >> >> Since it worked in Win2000 and BIOS setting are
the
>> same
>> >> >> (I checked) I would assume XP would allow this
>> >> >> functionality...
>> >> >> Misha
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Hi
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Well it's possible when you upgraded to XP it got
>> over
>> >> >> written
>> >> >> >which is one of the things that happens when you
>> >> upgrade,
>> >> >> it's
>> >> >> >never a simple or easy process something always
does
>> >> not
>> >> >> work
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Alvin
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Misha wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hello,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In Win200 I was able to configure my PC's power
>> >> button
>> >> >> so
>> >> >> >> that upon pressing it, the computer went into
>> >> >> hibernation.
>> >> >> >> As far as I remember this was configurable via
the
>> >> Power
>> >> >> >> Options in the Control Panel.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> After upgrading to WinXP I do not seem able to
>> find
>> >> >> these
>> >> >> >> options -- and pressing the same power button
om
>> my
>> >> PC
>> >> >> >> just turns the power off -- instanteneously.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Please help...
>> >> >> >> Thank you very much,
>> >> >> >> Misha
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Alex Nichol
December 6th 03, 10:00 PM
Misha wrote:

>My "Advanced" tab does not have these options anymore - it
>had them under Win2000. The Advanced tab only has two
>check boxes:
> - Always show icon on the taskbar
> - Prompt for password when computer resumes from standby
>
>The APM tab has "Enabled Advanced Power Management
>support" checked (this option is also enabled in the BIOS)
>
>I don't know though, how to make sure that, as you
>mention, the ACPI support is in action.?

That presence of APM tells me that ACPI is *not* in action. You should
BTW check the 'enable APM' on that page.

Setup must have decided that your BIOS did not meet specs for ACPI. YOu
can try again, in a repair reinstall, Set the BIOS to boot CD before
Hard disk, then boot the XP CD, start Setup (do not take 'Repair' at
this stage), then after the license agreement take 'Repair
Installation'. This will retain your existing software installations
and most settings. But Updates will have to be run again, especially
SP1; and if you have drivers that only arrived with that, like USB 2
ones, you will need to update drivers for the devices concerned.

In that there will be a point where it says 'Hit F6 to install special
drivers. . ' If you hit F5 you can select the 'HAL' to use, choosing
the standard one with ACPI, and hope that it succeeds. Or else leave
things, you will, with the APM turned on, be able to shutdown to power
off, but not have these fancier facilities


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows - File Systems)
Bournemouth, U.K.

Misha
December 6th 03, 10:02 PM
Hello Alex,

Thank you for taking the time -- however, when I went
through the steps you outlined, I was not presented with
the option you mention... (i.e. I did not take the first
offer to repair, but did take the second one, after the
licence agreement).

Anything else to try? This feature is quite important to
me, as I have an X10 facility that allows me to shut down
my PC remotely...
Thank again.
>-----Original Message-----
>Misha wrote:
>
>>My "Advanced" tab does not have these options anymore -
it
>>had them under Win2000. The Advanced tab only has two
>>check boxes:
>> - Always show icon on the taskbar
>> - Prompt for password when computer resumes from standby
>>
>>The APM tab has "Enabled Advanced Power Management
>>support" checked (this option is also enabled in the
BIOS)
>>
>>I don't know though, how to make sure that, as you
>>mention, the ACPI support is in action.?
>
>That presence of APM tells me that ACPI is *not* in
action. You should
>BTW check the 'enable APM' on that page.
>
>Setup must have decided that your BIOS did not meet specs
for ACPI. YOu
>can try again, in a repair reinstall, Set the BIOS to
boot CD before
>Hard disk, then boot the XP CD, start Setup (do not
take 'Repair' at
>this stage), then after the license agreement take 'Repair
>Installation'. This will retain your existing software
installations
>and most settings. But Updates will have to be run
again, especially
>SP1; and if you have drivers that only arrived with that,
like USB 2
>ones, you will need to update drivers for the devices
concerned.
>
>In that there will be a point where it says 'Hit F6 to
install special
>drivers. . ' If you hit F5 you can select the 'HAL' to
use, choosing
>the standard one with ACPI, and hope that it succeeds.
Or else leave
>things, you will, with the APM turned on, be able to
shutdown to power
>off, but not have these fancier facilities
>
>
>--
>Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows - File Systems)
>Bournemouth, U.K.
>.
>

Misha
December 6th 03, 10:21 PM
Thanks a lot -- I finally noticed the point to hit F5 -
and it worked! -- Thank you very much again... Misha

>-----Original Message-----
>Misha wrote:
>
>>My "Advanced" tab does not have these options anymore -
it
>>had them under Win2000. The Advanced tab only has two
>>check boxes:
>> - Always show icon on the taskbar
>> - Prompt for password when computer resumes from standby
>>
>>The APM tab has "Enabled Advanced Power Management
>>support" checked (this option is also enabled in the
BIOS)
>>
>>I don't know though, how to make sure that, as you
>>mention, the ACPI support is in action.?
>
>That presence of APM tells me that ACPI is *not* in
action. You should
>BTW check the 'enable APM' on that page.
>
>Setup must have decided that your BIOS did not meet specs
for ACPI. YOu
>can try again, in a repair reinstall, Set the BIOS to
boot CD before
>Hard disk, then boot the XP CD, start Setup (do not
take 'Repair' at
>this stage), then after the license agreement take 'Repair
>Installation'. This will retain your existing software
installations
>and most settings. But Updates will have to be run
again, especially
>SP1; and if you have drivers that only arrived with that,
like USB 2
>ones, you will need to update drivers for the devices
concerned.
>
>In that there will be a point where it says 'Hit F6 to
install special
>drivers. . ' If you hit F5 you can select the 'HAL' to
use, choosing
>the standard one with ACPI, and hope that it succeeds.
Or else leave
>things, you will, with the APM turned on, be able to
shutdown to power
>off, but not have these fancier facilities
>
>
>--
>Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows - File Systems)
>Bournemouth, U.K.
>.
>

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