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Warren Pearce
December 6th 03, 09:29 PM
The environment is an HP 763N with XP Professional.
I want to make another hard drive bootable to be a backup
of the original hard drive.
How do I make its first partition bootable like the old
Windows 98 sys command???
Thanks
Warren Pearce
Alvin A Brown
December 6th 03, 09:34 PM
Hello
Well remove drive 1 and install drive 2 laod your OS and then
remove and keep it in a safe place as your backup
alvin
Warren Pearce wrote:
> The environment is an HP 763N with XP Professional.
>
> I want to make another hard drive bootable to be a backup
> of the original hard drive.
>
> How do I make its first partition bootable like the old
> Windows 98 sys command???
>
> Thanks
>
> Warren Pearce
Warren Pearce
December 6th 03, 09:34 PM
Good thought - however, considering the time it took to
load XP, all my applications, and all the XP patches, I
really want a backup on a separate hard drive.
That saved lots and lots of hours in the past. In my
Windows98 environment, I could make a backup of C: on
another drive. Then when I needed to recover, I would
just format the sick C:, boot to the backup drive and
copy the backup back to the freshly formatted drive.
Typcially, that would taken no more than 45 minutes.
At this point,I have spend well over 20 hours getting the
new machine configured!! So, I'm really motovated to
have a reliable backup
WWP
>-----Original Message-----
>Hello
>
>Well remove drive 1 and install drive 2 laod your OS and
then
>remove and keep it in a safe place as your backup
>
>alvin
>
>
>Warren Pearce wrote:
>
>> The environment is an HP 763N with XP Professional.
>>
>> I want to make another hard drive bootable to be a
backup
>> of the original hard drive.
>>
>> How do I make its first partition bootable like the old
>> Windows 98 sys command???
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Warren Pearce
>
>.
>
Len Mattix
December 6th 03, 09:36 PM
Why not just use Ghost or Drive Image to clone your primary (C:) drive to
your second drive. I just make an image file of my current installation on
a partition on a second drive then use the boot floppys to restore the image
from DOS. Works like a charm!
FWIW,
Len
"Warren Pearce" > wrote in message
...
> Good thought - however, considering the time it took to
> load XP, all my applications, and all the XP patches, I
> really want a backup on a separate hard drive.
>
> That saved lots and lots of hours in the past. In my
> Windows98 environment, I could make a backup of C: on
> another drive. Then when I needed to recover, I would
> just format the sick C:, boot to the backup drive and
> copy the backup back to the freshly formatted drive.
> Typcially, that would taken no more than 45 minutes.
>
> At this point,I have spend well over 20 hours getting the
> new machine configured!! So, I'm really motovated to
> have a reliable backup
>
> WWP
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hello
> >
> >Well remove drive 1 and install drive 2 laod your OS and
> then
> >remove and keep it in a safe place as your backup
> >
> >alvin
> >
> >
> >Warren Pearce wrote:
> >
> >> The environment is an HP 763N with XP Professional.
> >>
> >> I want to make another hard drive bootable to be a
> backup
> >> of the original hard drive.
> >>
> >> How do I make its first partition bootable like the old
> >> Windows 98 sys command???
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Warren Pearce
> >
> >.
> >
Warren Pearce
December 6th 03, 09:36 PM
Good AM
I tried Ghost once and the recovery didn't work. But I'm
going to try again.
WWP
>-----Original Message-----
>Why not just use Ghost or Drive Image to clone your
primary (C:) drive to
>your second drive. I just make an image file of my
current installation on
>a partition on a second drive then use the boot floppys
to restore the image
>from DOS. Works like a charm!
>
>FWIW,
>Len
>
>"Warren Pearce" > wrote in message
...
>> Good thought - however, considering the time it took to
>> load XP, all my applications, and all the XP patches, I
>> really want a backup on a separate hard drive.
>>
>> That saved lots and lots of hours in the past. In my
>> Windows98 environment, I could make a backup of C: on
>> another drive. Then when I needed to recover, I would
>> just format the sick C:, boot to the backup drive and
>> copy the backup back to the freshly formatted drive.
>> Typcially, that would taken no more than 45 minutes.
>>
>> At this point,I have spend well over 20 hours getting
the
>> new machine configured!! So, I'm really motovated to
>> have a reliable backup
>>
>> WWP
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hello
>> >
>> >Well remove drive 1 and install drive 2 laod your OS
and
>> then
>> >remove and keep it in a safe place as your backup
>> >
>> >alvin
>> >
>> >
>> >Warren Pearce wrote:
>> >
>> >> The environment is an HP 763N with XP Professional.
>> >>
>> >> I want to make another hard drive bootable to be a
>> backup
>> >> of the original hard drive.
>> >>
>> >> How do I make its first partition bootable like the
old
>> >> Windows 98 sys command???
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Warren Pearce
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
Kent W. England [MVP]
December 6th 03, 09:39 PM
Let's assume you could copy *all* of the files from your XP drive to
your new drive. You would still need to copy two boot loader files from
the CD, make the XP partition active, setup the boot sector, and create
a boot configuration file. This process is the equivalent of the old 9x
sys command.
1) Boot to XP or Recovery Console. Copy NT loader files from CD or other
drive to target partition.
C:\>copy X:\i386\ntldr Y:\
C:\>copy X:\i386\ntdetect.com Y:\
where X is the source drive and Y is the XP partition.
2) Change attributes on copied files
C:\>attrib +H +S Y:\ntldr
C:\>attrib +H +S Y:\ntdetect.com
3) Set XP partition as active partition. Following is an example.
C:\>diskpart
DISKPART>list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ---------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online ... ...
DISKPART>select disk 0
DISKPART>list partition
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary ... ...
Partition 2 Primary ... ...
DISKPART>select partition 2
DISKPART>active
DISKPART>exit
4) If your XP partition is on a different physical drive than your
alternate OS, you may need to fix the MBR and you will need to fix the
boot sector.
RC>fixmbr
RC>fixboot
5) Create the boot.ini file on the XP partition.
RC>bootcfg /rebuild
Now reboot and enter the BIOS setup. Change the boot device to the XP
drive and you should start booting from the XP partition. If you set the
other drive as the boot device in BIOS, you can return to your NT boot
loader on that partition, or you can leave the boot device as the XP
partition and wipe the other OS from the first drive and use that drive
for other purposes.
--
Kent W. England, Microsoft MVP for Windows
"Warren Pearce" > wrote in message
...
> Good thought - however, considering the time it took to
> load XP, all my applications, and all the XP patches, I
> really want a backup on a separate hard drive.
>
> That saved lots and lots of hours in the past. In my
> Windows98 environment, I could make a backup of C: on
> another drive. Then when I needed to recover, I would
> just format the sick C:, boot to the backup drive and
> copy the backup back to the freshly formatted drive.
> Typcially, that would taken no more than 45 minutes.
>
> At this point,I have spend well over 20 hours getting the
> new machine configured!! So, I'm really motovated to
> have a reliable backup
>
> WWP
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hello
> >
> >Well remove drive 1 and install drive 2 laod your OS and
> then
> >remove and keep it in a safe place as your backup
> >
> >alvin
> >
> >
> >Warren Pearce wrote:
> >
> >> The environment is an HP 763N with XP Professional.
> >>
> >> I want to make another hard drive bootable to be a
> backup
> >> of the original hard drive.
> >>
> >> How do I make its first partition bootable like the old
> >> Windows 98 sys command???
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Warren Pearce
> >
> >.
> >
Alex Nichol
December 6th 03, 09:42 PM
Warren Pearce wrote:
>Good AM
>
>I tried Ghost once and the recovery didn't work. But I'm
>going to try again.
What I use for this sort of thing is BootIT NG, from
http://www.BootitNG.com ($35 shareware - 30 day full functional trial)
Although it set out as a Boot Manager, it is also a comprehensive
partition manager, and as it works through the BIOS from a boot able
floppy (in which it has a usable GUI) it needs no working HD around. So
you can either backup the system partition as a compressed image -
direct to a DVD writer if you have one; or make an *exact* copy onto a
different hard drive.
--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows - File Systems)
Bournemouth, U.K.
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