Blue Screen of Death

[BOTA:146]

OK, this is a drawn out issue and I'll try to be concise.

I'm (trying to) assemble a new computer. However, I'm
getting the dreaded Blue Screen of Death at varying
times. I think I have the problem narrowed down to
processor related, and I'll go into why. Let me know if
I'm aiming in the right direction before I spend the
money for a new processor.

All parts are new.

Coolermaster ATC 201
Vantec Stealth aluminum 470W PS
Chaintech 7NJS changed to ASUS A7N8X
AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton processor
Corsair TWINX XMS PC 3200 DDR RAM
(2) Maxtor 80GB 8MB Cache hard drives
Lite On 16x DVDROM & 48x24x48 CDRW
MSI geForce 4 Ti 4200 video card 8x AGP 128MB RAM
Windows XP Pro

OK, I started with the Chaintech MoBo which BIOS reported
the processor as an unknown, set the FSB to 100Mhz,
volted it at 2.7v when it's speced for 1.66v, and caused
it to run at 100 degrees (Shutdown temp) and crash
durring install of a fresh copy of XP Pro.

I was eventually able to get Windows fully installed, but
could not write between drives and had repeated overheat
errors. I figured the processor had been fried by the
overvolt.

I purchased the ASUS board in hopes that the processor
survived and knowing that the ASUS MoBo could handle it.
It did, BIOS reported an Athlon XP 2800+, provided proper
voltage and the FSB was set properly at 166Mhz, processor
temp is good at 38C, chassis 17C. OK, so I was feeling
good at this point.

Upon a new install (Full format), the machine crashed
with a BSD. Then, I was able to get a full install, and
had several programs installed when I started getting
random BSD. I've tried everything including but
not limited to:

* One stick of RAM in each slot (All possible variations)
* EVERYTHING disabled including all onboard accessories
* One hard drive and one CD
* Every variation of drives possible

I lack another processor to test the system with. I
don't think it's a RAM problem, because it happens in all
variations and with both sticks. Same goes for the
drives.

I guess my question is, could that initial overvolt by
the Chaintech MoBo have messed the processor up to the
extent that it would cause the problems I'm having now?
Has anyone else ever had like problems?

Thanks, in advace, for any help you all can offer.

[S.Heenan]

"BOTA:146" > wrote in message
...
<Comments inline; snipped for brevity>
> All parts are new.
>
> Coolermaster ATC 201
> Vantec Stealth aluminum 470W PS
> Chaintech 7NJS changed to ASUS A7N8X
> AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton processor
> Corsair TWINX XMS PC 3200 DDR RAM
> (2) Maxtor 80GB 8MB Cache hard drives
> Lite On 16x DVDROM & 48x24x48 CDRW
> MSI geForce 4 Ti 4200 video card 8x AGP 128MB RAM
> Windows XP Pro
>
> OK, I started with the Chaintech MoBo which BIOS reported
> the processor as an unknown, set the FSB to 100Mhz,
> volted it at 2.7v when it's speced for 1.66v, and caused
> it to run at 100 degrees (Shutdown temp) and crash
> durring install of a fresh copy of XP Pro.

How did you get the V core to 2.7V ? Normally, 2V is about the maximum a
board allows. OTOH, RAM voltage is normally 2.5V-2.9V. Exceeding 2.7V isn't
recommended.

I was eventually able to get Windows fully installed, but
> could not write between drives and had repeated overheat
> errors. I figured the processor had been fried by the
> overvolt.

Could be.

> I purchased the ASUS board in hopes that the processor
> survived and knowing that the ASUS MoBo could handle it.
> It did, BIOS reported an Athlon XP 2800+, provided proper
> voltage and the FSB was set properly at 166Mhz, processor
> temp is good at 38C, chassis 17C. OK, so I was feeling
> good at this point.
>
> Upon a new install (Full format), the machine crashed
> with a BSD. Then, I was able to get a full install, and
> had several programs installed when I started getting
> random BSD. I've tried everything including but
> not limited to:
>
> * One stick of RAM in each slot (All possible variations)
> * EVERYTHING disabled including all onboard accessories
> * One hard drive and one CD
> * Every variation of drives possible

Were you running the RAM in sync with the FSB on the Asus board at the time
?

> I lack another processor to test the system with. I
> don't think it's a RAM problem, because it happens in all
> variations and with both sticks. Same goes for the
> drives.

You don't mention which Asus motherboard, but if you can set the FSB to
133MHz and the multiplier at its' native 12.5 multiplier and 1.65V, try it.
If it's stable, run Prime 95 and see if errors appear. Or Super Pi from
http://pw1.netcom.com/~hjsmith/Pi/Super_Pi.html If you find it stable,
raise the FSB to 166MHz.

[Len Segal]

Yes,

I think that you may have damaged the CPU and thus the random errors.

You might take a look at MVP Jim Eshelman's Website on BSOD messages:
http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.htm to get more info on what your error
messages are trying to tell you.

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Microsoft - MVP
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"BOTA:146" > wrote in message
...
> OK, this is a drawn out issue and I'll try to be concise.
>
> I'm (trying to) assemble a new computer. However, I'm
> getting the dreaded Blue Screen of Death at varying
> times. I think I have the problem narrowed down to
> processor related, and I'll go into why. Let me know if
> I'm aiming in the right direction before I spend the
> money for a new processor.
>
> All parts are new.
>
> Coolermaster ATC 201
> Vantec Stealth aluminum 470W PS
> Chaintech 7NJS changed to ASUS A7N8X
> AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton processor
> Corsair TWINX XMS PC 3200 DDR RAM
> (2) Maxtor 80GB 8MB Cache hard drives
> Lite On 16x DVDROM & 48x24x48 CDRW
> MSI geForce 4 Ti 4200 video card 8x AGP 128MB RAM
> Windows XP Pro
>
> OK, I started with the Chaintech MoBo which BIOS reported
> the processor as an unknown, set the FSB to 100Mhz,
> volted it at 2.7v when it's speced for 1.66v, and caused
> it to run at 100 degrees (Shutdown temp) and crash
> durring install of a fresh copy of XP Pro.
>
> I was eventually able to get Windows fully installed, but
> could not write between drives and had repeated overheat
> errors. I figured the processor had been fried by the
> overvolt.
>
> I purchased the ASUS board in hopes that the processor
> survived and knowing that the ASUS MoBo could handle it.
> It did, BIOS reported an Athlon XP 2800+, provided proper
> voltage and the FSB was set properly at 166Mhz, processor
> temp is good at 38C, chassis 17C. OK, so I was feeling
> good at this point.
>
> Upon a new install (Full format), the machine crashed
> with a BSD. Then, I was able to get a full install, and
> had several programs installed when I started getting
> random BSD. I've tried everything including but
> not limited to:
>
> * One stick of RAM in each slot (All possible variations)
> * EVERYTHING disabled including all onboard accessories
> * One hard drive and one CD
> * Every variation of drives possible
>
> I lack another processor to test the system with. I
> don't think it's a RAM problem, because it happens in all
> variations and with both sticks. Same goes for the
> drives.
>
> I guess my question is, could that initial overvolt by
> the Chaintech MoBo have messed the processor up to the
> extent that it would cause the problems I'm having now?
> Has anyone else ever had like problems?
>
> Thanks, in advace, for any help you all can offer.


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[syn]

the cpu just HAS to be fried.
my friend bought an athlon 2000XP from a local store. he had it for about 2
weeks. it worked fine. then he had a few bsod and fdisjked it.

installed winXP but still got the problems..
he took it back the store and after a lot of shuffling and embarassed looks
the guy at the store admitted that he had sold him a cpu that a previous
customer had installed and used WITHOUT A CPU HEATSINK AND FAN! for about 10
minutes.
the boss wasn't around so this guy gives a refund and then sells it on to my
friend!!
the point is, it worked for a while... but obviously it was knackered.
sounds like a similar sort of thing [cept this time it wasn't your fault by
the sound of it]

hop[e this helps
das

"BOTA:146" > wrote in message
...
> OK, this is a drawn out issue and I'll try to be concise.
>
> I'm (trying to) assemble a new computer. However, I'm
> getting the dreaded Blue Screen of Death at varying
> times. I think I have the problem narrowed down to
> processor related, and I'll go into why. Let me know if
> I'm aiming in the right direction before I spend the
> money for a new processor.
>
> All parts are new.
>
> Coolermaster ATC 201
> Vantec Stealth aluminum 470W PS
> Chaintech 7NJS changed to ASUS A7N8X
> AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton processor
> Corsair TWINX XMS PC 3200 DDR RAM
> (2) Maxtor 80GB 8MB Cache hard drives
> Lite On 16x DVDROM & 48x24x48 CDRW
> MSI geForce 4 Ti 4200 video card 8x AGP 128MB RAM
> Windows XP Pro
>
> OK, I started with the Chaintech MoBo which BIOS reported
> the processor as an unknown, set the FSB to 100Mhz,
> volted it at 2.7v when it's speced for 1.66v, and caused
> it to run at 100 degrees (Shutdown temp) and crash
> durring install of a fresh copy of XP Pro.
>
> I was eventually able to get Windows fully installed, but
> could not write between drives and had repeated overheat
> errors. I figured the processor had been fried by the
> overvolt.
>
> I purchased the ASUS board in hopes that the processor
> survived and knowing that the ASUS MoBo could handle it.
> It did, BIOS reported an Athlon XP 2800+, provided proper
> voltage and the FSB was set properly at 166Mhz, processor
> temp is good at 38C, chassis 17C. OK, so I was feeling
> good at this point.
>
> Upon a new install (Full format), the machine crashed
> with a BSD. Then, I was able to get a full install, and
> had several programs installed when I started getting
> random BSD. I've tried everything including but
> not limited to:
>
> * One stick of RAM in each slot (All possible variations)
> * EVERYTHING disabled including all onboard accessories
> * One hard drive and one CD
> * Every variation of drives possible
>
> I lack another processor to test the system with. I
> don't think it's a RAM problem, because it happens in all
> variations and with both sticks. Same goes for the
> drives.
>
> I guess my question is, could that initial overvolt by
> the Chaintech MoBo have messed the processor up to the
> extent that it would cause the problems I'm having now?
> Has anyone else ever had like problems?
>
> Thanks, in advace, for any help you all can offer.