XP Install from hard drive?

[Dave Hanscom]

I want to replace my motherboard and CPU, but I have lost
my XP cd. I did however copy the CD to one of my hard
drives. The only problem is the motherboard does not see
the hard drives in ms dos, so I can not start a repair or
fresh install.

THANKS,

Dave

[Jim]

Is the partition FAT32 or NTFS? When you say it can't be seen in DOS, you
mean you have an MD-DOS bootable floppy?

Jim


"Dave Hanscom" > wrote in message
...
> I want to replace my motherboard and CPU, but I have lost
> my XP cd. I did however copy the CD to one of my hard
> drives. The only problem is the motherboard does not see
> the hard drives in ms dos, so I can not start a repair or
> fresh install.
>
> THANKS,
>
> Dave

[Dave Hanscom]

>-----Original Message-----
>Is the partition FAT32 or NTFS? When you say it can't be
seen in DOS, you
>mean you have an MD-DOS bootable floppy?
>
>Jim

The hard drive is NTFS, and I was able to get a boot disk
from bootdisk.com. It sees the floppy and CDROM but no
hard disk??? I would ate to hae to buy another XP CD.

Thank you Jim

Dave

[Jim]

What you can do is convert the partition from NTFS to FAT32 or FAT16,
whatever that boot disk can support. Did you select the Win98SE or MS-DOS
6.22 disk? The latter can only support FAT16, the former FAT32 or FAT16 (I
recommend Win98SE disk). Also, any details on what you have on the HD?
For example, how many GB? Is the partition consuming ALL of it? Any other
partitions? Does the partition contain anything else besides the CD
contents?

In the meantime, I'll write up some directions.

Jim

"Dave Hanscom" > wrote in message
...
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Is the partition FAT32 or NTFS? When you say it can't be
> seen in DOS, you
> >mean you have an MD-DOS bootable floppy?
> >
> >Jim
>
> The hard drive is NTFS, and I was able to get a boot disk
> from bootdisk.com. It sees the floppy and CDROM but no
> hard disk??? I would ate to hae to buy another XP CD.
>
> Thank you Jim
>
> Dave

[Dae Hanscom]

I am not sure of the type of version of the boot program.
The program used to create the disk is WIMA_SFX.EXE from
WinImage, it does seem logical to change the partiton type
to FAT32 and use the win98se boot disk. The hard drive is
a western digital 30 gig, I believe that there is only 1
partiton now. The drive only has the XP cd files on it.
Should I copy the files and reformat in FAT32 and
reinstall the files back on it? And then run setup?

thanks again for the help!!!!

Dave

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Dave;
Is Windows XP retail?
If so contact Microsoft for a replacement:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q295539

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"Dave Hanscom" > wrote in message
...
> I want to replace my motherboard and CPU, but I have lost
> my XP cd. I did however copy the CD to one of my hard
> drives. The only problem is the motherboard does not see
> the hard drives in ms dos, so I can not start a repair or
> fresh install.
>
> THANKS,
>
> Dave

[Jim]

Here's what I recommend. There may be other ways, but this will work.

1) Visit NTFS.com and download their NTFS Reader for DOS
(http://www.ntfs.com/products.htm). It's provided in two forms, the program
itself, which you can copy to a bootable DOS floppy, or all-in-one, which
creates a bootable DOS floppy /w reader. I recommend getting the all-in-one
(http://www.ntfs.com/boot-disk.htm). Create the floppy as directed and set
aside for the moment. With this reader, you will be able to READ NTFS and
WRITE FAT16 or FAT32. IOW, copy from NTFS to FAT32. What's missing is the
FAT-32 partition needed to copy TO.

2) Visit BootItNG.com and DL BootIt NG. Unzip the file, and execute
BOOTITNG.EXE to create ANOTHER bootable floppy. Accepts the defaults when
prompted.

3) Now boot BootIt NG w/ the floppy. It will load and present a Welcome
Screen. Just hit Cancel, follow the prompts, and you'll eventually be taken
to the Partition Management screen.

IMPORTANT: We are about to manipulate your partitions. BootIt NG is
EXTREMELY safe to use, but it's always a good idea to have at least a UPS
(Uninterruptible Power Supply) for these types of operations. Also, if you
want to be EXTRA safe (particularly if no UPS), and have a CD-R/RW drive
attached, you can create an image of the existing partition to CD-R/RW
media. Naturally, depending on the amount of data, this may or may not be
practical, but that's up to you. To image the partition to CD-R/RW, just
select the partition, hit Image, and you'll see a message at the bottom of
the screen that says "Paste Pending". Now Click the CD button in the upper
left corner (under HD) and you should see your CD-R/RW drive listed. Select
the drive, hit Paste, and BootIt NG will create an image to CD-R. If it
requires multiple CD-R media (i.e., spanning), BootIt NG will prompt for
additional CD-R's.

Continuing...

4) You should see your NTFS partition listed. Select the partition, hit
Resize, and downsize the partition as much as practical, depending on how
much data is present. We need to gather as much space as possible for the
next step. When completed, there should a significant amount of freespace
at the END of the hard drive. How much depends on how well you were able to
downsize the partition.

5) After downsizing the NTFS partition, select the partition again, hit
Slide, and specify ZERO freespace after the partition. This will slide the
partition to the END of the hard drive. When completed, you should now have
all your freespace at the HEAD of the hard drive.

6) Now select the freespace, hit Create, and specifying a file system of
FAT32, and maximum size available. Hit OK and the new partition should be
created. When completed, you should have TWO partitions, the first a FAT32
partition (C:), followed by the NTFS partition (D:).

7) Hit Close to exit Partition Management. Remove the BootIt NG floppy, and
insert the NTFS Reader bootable floppy. Hit reboot.

8) You should now be booted to the NTSF Reader diskette, which will
automatically run the reader application. From here, you can copy your NTFS
files over to the FAT32 partition. When done, exit the program, remove the
floppy, and insert the Bootdisk.com Win98SE bootable floppy from
Bootdisk.com. Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot.

9) You should now be booted to the Win98SE boot disk. I'm not familiar w/
THAT particular diskette, but if it's like the Win98SE Startup Disk I have,
you want to bring up the command console (on the Win98 SE Startup Disk, that
requires Shift+F5 at the menu).

10) You should now be at an A:> prompt. You should have a single C: drive
of type FAT32 and all your files available. Switch to the C: drive and run
Win98 setup as normal. Once Win98 setup is complete, I suggest writing the
setup files to CD-R media for future reference. At some point, you'll
probably want to reboot BootIt NG, enter the Partition Manager as before,
and delete the NTFS partition. Then, either leave as is, or perhaps expand
C: to full size, or perhaps add another D: FAT-32 partition for data
storage. That decision is up to YOU!

Good Luck!

HTH

Jim


"Dae Hanscom" > wrote in message
...
>
> I am not sure of the type of version of the boot program.
> The program used to create the disk is WIMA_SFX.EXE from
> WinImage, it does seem logical to change the partiton type
> to FAT32 and use the win98se boot disk. The hard drive is
> a western digital 30 gig, I believe that there is only 1
> partiton now. The drive only has the XP cd files on it.
> Should I copy the files and reformat in FAT32 and
> reinstall the files back on it? And then run setup?
>
> thanks again for the help!!!!
>
> Dave

[Dave Hanscom]

I cant believe you spent so much time to help me out! I am
going to have to read that a few times to understand the
steps! But I am very confident. Let me know if you ever
need any 3D CAD drawings in exchange for your help you can
see some of what I do on www.dkhengineering.com Have a
good weekend I will post my outcome here when I complete
the installation. Thanks very much!

Dave

[Earl F. Parrish]

"Dave Hanscom" > wrote in message
...
> I want to replace my motherboard and CPU, but I have lost
> my XP cd. I did however copy the CD to one of my hard
> drives. The only problem is the motherboard does not see
> the hard drives in ms dos, so I can not start a repair or
> fresh install.
>
> THANKS,
>
> Dave

If your computer is working now, why not make a CD of the folder
which has the Windows XP files? It is hard to imagine that someone
would lose a CD but would have the presence of mind to copy it to
the hard drive before losing it. If the new motherboard has the
same chipset, you might be able to get by with a repair
installation. Changing a CPU should not require reinstallation of
the operating system.

--
Earl F. Parrish

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

You should be able to get a replacement CD for a nominal charge.

If it was a retail license and you have proof of purchase:

How to Replace Lost, Broken, or Missing Microsoft Software or Hardware
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;326246

If it was an OEM license, you should contact whomever sold you the
OS; although very few manufacturers/vendors keep records of the
Product Keys they've sold, it's worth a try before you have to buy a
new license.


Bruce Chambers

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"Dave Hanscom" > wrote in message
...
> I want to replace my motherboard and CPU, but I have lost
> my XP cd. I did however copy the CD to one of my hard
> drives. The only problem is the motherboard does not see
> the hard drives in ms dos, so I can not start a repair or
> fresh install.
>
> THANKS,
>
> Dave