Donald Link
December 7th 03, 02:02 AM
Yes correct, but living in the past when the future is here is illogical!!!
"Knight" > wrote in message
...
> I replied to your challenge... please read the post about running XP on a
> 486.
> Not only that.... I state there that you can use XP on a far less
powerfull
> machine.
> Cassandra not only cant you see the future... but is seems you have
> forgotten the past.
> There is no future without a past.
>
> Here is your grand challenge....
>
> >I challenge you to install XP on a 486 SX (no wait, I'll be kind) DX-66.
Do
> >post back, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be fascinated to hear
> whether
> >you achieve this.
>
> You forget that you can do much with very little if you know how to use
> things in a smart way.
>
>
> ______ reposting my reply to you for quick reference_________________
>
> Kenny said...
>
>
> Unfortunately you are totally incorrect about everything. And I am
sober...
> and correct of course.
> Keep reading and you will see that not only do I take up your challenge
but
> get away with FAR less computer power!
> How much less.... you will see.... stay with me and be amazed :-)
>
> >Of course you'll have XP on your desktop - on the system you installed it
> on. You need XP installed on both systems for remote desktop to work -
and,
> as a 486 can only just run 95, you might want to rethink that statement.
>
> ------Totally wrong, an MVP will explain this to you. You can run a
remote
> desktop CLIENT on any 32 bit windows platform.
>
>
> >we're going back a while so my memory may be a little hazy). I also
> never saw a 486 motherboard with more than two RAM slots (there my have
been
> some that had four, but I don't recall any). Now, do tell me how you put
> 64MB into a 486?
>
> ----Wrong again... you COULD have 486 running @ 120 Mhz with 64 mb ram,
This
> is equivalent to a Pentium 75.
>
> As you can see from another poster...
>
> > > Actually, Packard Bell once made a 486DX2 66 MHz machine that had
> > > 6 SIMM slots. And 72-pin SIMMs were available in sizes up to at least
> > > 32 Mb, that I recall using. ;-}
>
>
> -->I challenge you to install XP on a 486 SX (no wait, I'll be kind)
DX-66.
> Do
> post back, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be fascinated to hear
whether
> you achieve this.
>
> I never said the nature of the 486. I meant the fastest available 486 in
the
> market that was then @100 mhz, 120 Mhz and I think the last one was at a
> whooping 133 mhz. On these machines I can run XP. even if it means
> installing xp on another machine so the installation will be faster and
then
> placing the drive on the 486.
>
> Nevertheless you can run windows 95 and the remote desktop client on a 386
> (because it is
> 32 bit) and with 8 mb ram (this is what win95 needs to run). If you have
> remote desktop you can log onto XP, windows2000, or even windows 2003 that
> has very advanced terminal services.
> You know what else you can do? You can run a remote client on a 386 with
> windows 95 and 4 mb of ram, by having 8 mb during the installation of
win95
> and then REMOVING the other 4.
> So this is the smallest limit for a computer that is running WINDOWS
remote
> desktop client. BUT noone says that you cannot create a remote desktop for
> older machines.
> There are some programmers that have created such software for the
AMIGA....
> that computer has 500k and 4mhz (I think CPU).
> You can probably go even lower..... I dare say a spectrum. Yes... there
> might be a genius programmer out there that can create a client for
windows
> terminal servers that can fit into 48kb ram (the spectrum I think ran at 2
> mhz, I still have one). Of course you will have color and resolution
> limitations.... but you will still be able to control thus RUN xp from
that
> machine.
>
> Ok here is the point where you think I am crazy.....that I am talking
about
> 25 year old technology... and that all this is useless.
>
> DO you think that the creators of THIS:
> http://www.thinsoftinc.com/products_winconnectz_info.html
> were not thinking about everything I have said here?
>
> Yes let your eyes feast on this.... running XP on a PDA!!!
>
> Bruce are you with me???
>
> Bruce, I have invited Kelly (MVP) to participate in a new site I am
> making... I
> would be honored if you could post some things there from time to time,
> perhaps include some content in a newsletter? The Url will be
> www.computerboom.net .
> I would like to have some MVPs aboard, kinda make it a friendly meeting
> place for the masters of XP and a place where people can find useful info.
>
> What do you say?
>
>
> Kenny.... www.computerboom.net coming shortly stay tuned
>
> :-)
>
>
> And my LAST comment is this....
>
>
> .....Creativity is intelligence having fun !.....;-)
>
> For the ones reading technical replies, I would kindly request them to
give
> me their feedback with another post (in the same thread of course), so I
> will know if my advice helped them or not.
>
> Kenny S www.talentgrid.com
> www.computerboom.net
>
>
> "Amethyst" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Knight wrote:
> > > I dont like your attitude.
> > > You can run a remote desktop connection from a 486, to an XP pro
> computer.
> > > Thus you will actually have XP on your desktop.
> > >
> > > A 486 CAN run XP if it has enough ram. It will work very slow but that
> is
> > > not YOUR problem is it?
> > >
> > > If you cant give advice just dont say anything.
> >
> > You've been hitting the liquor mighty hard haven't you?! Do you actually
> > know what the blibbins you're blathering on about? Do you actually know
> what
> > the minimum requirements for XP are? A 486 is barely capable of running
> 98,
> > let alone XP!
> >
> > Of course you'll have XP on your desktop - on the system you installed
it
> > on. You need XP installed on both systems for remote desktop to work -
> and,
> > as a 486 can only just run 95, you might want to rethink that statement.
> >
> > Now, those minimum specs: -
> >
> > a.. PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended;
> 233
> > MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel
> > Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible
> > processor recommended
> > b.. 128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum
> > supported; may limit performance and some features)
> > c.. 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*
> > d.. Super VGA (800 × 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and
monitor
> > e.. CD-ROM or DVD drive
> > f.. Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
> > I don't recall ever seeing a 486 a) with a 300MHz clock and b) called a
> > 'Pentium'.
> >
> > A 486 took SIMMs which had to be installed in pairs. They didn't, IIRC,
> come
> > in sizes any bigger than 8MB and the motherboard could only recognise
> about
> > 32MB (we're going back a while so my memory may be a little hazy). I
also
> > never saw a 486 motherboard with more than two RAM slots (there my have
> been
> > some that had four, but I don't recall any). Now, do tell me how you put
> > 64MB into a 486?
> >
> > I challenge you to install XP on a 486 SX (no wait, I'll be kind) DX-66.
> Do
> > post back, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be fascinated to hear
> whether
> > you achieve this.
> >
> > --
> > Cassandra
> > Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People
Too!'
> >
> > Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
> > of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
> > uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
> > Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post
all
> > correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
> >
> >
>
>
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>
>
> .....Creativity is intelligence having fun !.....;-)
>
> For the ones reading technical replies, I would kindly request them to
give
> me their feedback with another post (in the same thread of course), so I
> will know if my advice helped them or not.
>
> Kenny S www.talentgrid.com
> www.computerboom.net
>
>
>
"Knight" > wrote in message
...
> I replied to your challenge... please read the post about running XP on a
> 486.
> Not only that.... I state there that you can use XP on a far less
powerfull
> machine.
> Cassandra not only cant you see the future... but is seems you have
> forgotten the past.
> There is no future without a past.
>
> Here is your grand challenge....
>
> >I challenge you to install XP on a 486 SX (no wait, I'll be kind) DX-66.
Do
> >post back, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be fascinated to hear
> whether
> >you achieve this.
>
> You forget that you can do much with very little if you know how to use
> things in a smart way.
>
>
> ______ reposting my reply to you for quick reference_________________
>
> Kenny said...
>
>
> Unfortunately you are totally incorrect about everything. And I am
sober...
> and correct of course.
> Keep reading and you will see that not only do I take up your challenge
but
> get away with FAR less computer power!
> How much less.... you will see.... stay with me and be amazed :-)
>
> >Of course you'll have XP on your desktop - on the system you installed it
> on. You need XP installed on both systems for remote desktop to work -
and,
> as a 486 can only just run 95, you might want to rethink that statement.
>
> ------Totally wrong, an MVP will explain this to you. You can run a
remote
> desktop CLIENT on any 32 bit windows platform.
>
>
> >we're going back a while so my memory may be a little hazy). I also
> never saw a 486 motherboard with more than two RAM slots (there my have
been
> some that had four, but I don't recall any). Now, do tell me how you put
> 64MB into a 486?
>
> ----Wrong again... you COULD have 486 running @ 120 Mhz with 64 mb ram,
This
> is equivalent to a Pentium 75.
>
> As you can see from another poster...
>
> > > Actually, Packard Bell once made a 486DX2 66 MHz machine that had
> > > 6 SIMM slots. And 72-pin SIMMs were available in sizes up to at least
> > > 32 Mb, that I recall using. ;-}
>
>
> -->I challenge you to install XP on a 486 SX (no wait, I'll be kind)
DX-66.
> Do
> post back, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be fascinated to hear
whether
> you achieve this.
>
> I never said the nature of the 486. I meant the fastest available 486 in
the
> market that was then @100 mhz, 120 Mhz and I think the last one was at a
> whooping 133 mhz. On these machines I can run XP. even if it means
> installing xp on another machine so the installation will be faster and
then
> placing the drive on the 486.
>
> Nevertheless you can run windows 95 and the remote desktop client on a 386
> (because it is
> 32 bit) and with 8 mb ram (this is what win95 needs to run). If you have
> remote desktop you can log onto XP, windows2000, or even windows 2003 that
> has very advanced terminal services.
> You know what else you can do? You can run a remote client on a 386 with
> windows 95 and 4 mb of ram, by having 8 mb during the installation of
win95
> and then REMOVING the other 4.
> So this is the smallest limit for a computer that is running WINDOWS
remote
> desktop client. BUT noone says that you cannot create a remote desktop for
> older machines.
> There are some programmers that have created such software for the
AMIGA....
> that computer has 500k and 4mhz (I think CPU).
> You can probably go even lower..... I dare say a spectrum. Yes... there
> might be a genius programmer out there that can create a client for
windows
> terminal servers that can fit into 48kb ram (the spectrum I think ran at 2
> mhz, I still have one). Of course you will have color and resolution
> limitations.... but you will still be able to control thus RUN xp from
that
> machine.
>
> Ok here is the point where you think I am crazy.....that I am talking
about
> 25 year old technology... and that all this is useless.
>
> DO you think that the creators of THIS:
> http://www.thinsoftinc.com/products_winconnectz_info.html
> were not thinking about everything I have said here?
>
> Yes let your eyes feast on this.... running XP on a PDA!!!
>
> Bruce are you with me???
>
> Bruce, I have invited Kelly (MVP) to participate in a new site I am
> making... I
> would be honored if you could post some things there from time to time,
> perhaps include some content in a newsletter? The Url will be
> www.computerboom.net .
> I would like to have some MVPs aboard, kinda make it a friendly meeting
> place for the masters of XP and a place where people can find useful info.
>
> What do you say?
>
>
> Kenny.... www.computerboom.net coming shortly stay tuned
>
> :-)
>
>
> And my LAST comment is this....
>
>
> .....Creativity is intelligence having fun !.....;-)
>
> For the ones reading technical replies, I would kindly request them to
give
> me their feedback with another post (in the same thread of course), so I
> will know if my advice helped them or not.
>
> Kenny S www.talentgrid.com
> www.computerboom.net
>
>
> "Amethyst" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Knight wrote:
> > > I dont like your attitude.
> > > You can run a remote desktop connection from a 486, to an XP pro
> computer.
> > > Thus you will actually have XP on your desktop.
> > >
> > > A 486 CAN run XP if it has enough ram. It will work very slow but that
> is
> > > not YOUR problem is it?
> > >
> > > If you cant give advice just dont say anything.
> >
> > You've been hitting the liquor mighty hard haven't you?! Do you actually
> > know what the blibbins you're blathering on about? Do you actually know
> what
> > the minimum requirements for XP are? A 486 is barely capable of running
> 98,
> > let alone XP!
> >
> > Of course you'll have XP on your desktop - on the system you installed
it
> > on. You need XP installed on both systems for remote desktop to work -
> and,
> > as a 486 can only just run 95, you might want to rethink that statement.
> >
> > Now, those minimum specs: -
> >
> > a.. PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended;
> 233
> > MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel
> > Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible
> > processor recommended
> > b.. 128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum
> > supported; may limit performance and some features)
> > c.. 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*
> > d.. Super VGA (800 × 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and
monitor
> > e.. CD-ROM or DVD drive
> > f.. Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
> > I don't recall ever seeing a 486 a) with a 300MHz clock and b) called a
> > 'Pentium'.
> >
> > A 486 took SIMMs which had to be installed in pairs. They didn't, IIRC,
> come
> > in sizes any bigger than 8MB and the motherboard could only recognise
> about
> > 32MB (we're going back a while so my memory may be a little hazy). I
also
> > never saw a 486 motherboard with more than two RAM slots (there my have
> been
> > some that had four, but I don't recall any). Now, do tell me how you put
> > 64MB into a 486?
> >
> > I challenge you to install XP on a 486 SX (no wait, I'll be kind) DX-66.
> Do
> > post back, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be fascinated to hear
> whether
> > you achieve this.
> >
> > --
> > Cassandra
> > Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People
Too!'
> >
> > Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
> > of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
> > uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
> > Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post
all
> > correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
> >
> >
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/6/2003
>
>
>
> .....Creativity is intelligence having fun !.....;-)
>
> For the ones reading technical replies, I would kindly request them to
give
> me their feedback with another post (in the same thread of course), so I
> will know if my advice helped them or not.
>
> Kenny S www.talentgrid.com
> www.computerboom.net
>
>
>