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Joe101
December 5th 03, 01:17 AM
Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can be reinstalled
(moved to) a new computer. I understand that it can be done on the RETAIL
version by calling MS to reactivate because hardware changes drastically,
but I heard someone say MS would refuse to allow this on OEM version.
Here's the deal.......I want to add another hard drive and load XP (Dual
Boot) on my old system. Then this winter, build a new box and move XP to
it.
Thanks in advance,
Harry Ohrn
December 5th 03, 01:17 AM
An OEM version is legally tied to the first system that it is installed on.
In some instances it is even tied to the BIOS of the system it is installed
on and can not be installed as it will refuse to do so.
--
Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/
"Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can be
reinstalled
> (moved to) a new computer. I understand that it can be done on the
RETAIL
> version by calling MS to reactivate because hardware changes drastically,
> but I heard someone say MS would refuse to allow this on OEM version.
>
> Here's the deal.......I want to add another hard drive and load XP (Dual
> Boot) on my old system. Then this winter, build a new box and move XP
to
> it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
>
Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 01:17 AM
Greetings --
OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a
motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft has
greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are _permanently_
bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An OEM license,
once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under
any circumstances. This is the best reason to avoid OEM versions; if
the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even stolen), you cannot
re-use your OEM license on a new PC.
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
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----
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
"Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can be
reinstalled
> (moved to) a new computer. I understand that it can be done on the
RETAIL
> version by calling MS to reactivate because hardware changes
drastically,
> but I heard someone say MS would refuse to allow this on OEM
version.
>
> Here's the deal.......I want to add another hard drive and load XP
(Dual
> Boot) on my old system. Then this winter, build a new box and
move XP to
> it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
>
Ken Blake
December 5th 03, 01:17 AM
In , Joe101 wrote:
> Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can be
> reinstalled (moved to) a new computer.
It can not. The OEM license permanently ties it to the first
computer it's installed on.
> I understand that it can be
> done on the RETAIL version by calling MS to reactivate because
> hardware changes drastically, but I heard someone say MS would
refuse
> to allow this on OEM version.
That's correct.
--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup
Joe101
December 5th 03, 01:18 AM
Let me clarify where I will get the OEM versions. Many of the motherboard
and parts suppliers offer Full OEM Versions when purchasing a motherboard or
new hard drive. Not sure whether I will get Home or Pro versions, but I
want to move the OS from one PC to another as described below.
"Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can be
reinstalled
> (moved to) a new computer. I understand that it can be done on the
RETAIL
> version by calling MS to reactivate because hardware changes drastically,
> but I heard someone say MS would refuse to allow this on OEM version.
>
> Here's the deal.......I want to add another hard drive and load XP (Dual
> Boot) on my old system. Then this winter, build a new box and move XP
to
> it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
>
Ken Blake
December 5th 03, 01:18 AM
In , Joe101 wrote:
> Let me clarify where I will get the OEM versions. Many of the
> motherboard and parts suppliers offer Full OEM Versions when
> purchasing a motherboard or new hard drive. Not sure whether
I will
> get Home or Pro versions, but I want to move the OS from one PC
to
> another as described below.
Where you get it doesn't matter. The answer is the same--you can
not move an OEM version from one computer to another.
--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup
>
> "Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
> ...
>> Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can
be
>> reinstalled (moved to) a new computer. I understand that it
can be
>> done on the RETAIL version by calling MS to reactivate because
>> hardware changes drastically, but I heard someone say MS would
>> refuse to allow this on OEM version.
>>
>> Here's the deal.......I want to add another hard drive and
load XP
>> (Dual Boot) on my old system. Then this winter, build a new
box
>> and move XP to it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 01:19 AM
Greetings --
OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a
motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft has
greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are _permanently_
bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An OEM license,
once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under
any circumstances. This is the best reason to avoid OEM versions; if
the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even stolen), you cannot
re-use your OEM license on a new PC.
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
----
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
"Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
...
> Let me clarify where I will get the OEM versions. Many of the
motherboard
> and parts suppliers offer Full OEM Versions when purchasing a
motherboard or
> new hard drive. Not sure whether I will get Home or Pro versions,
but I
> want to move the OS from one PC to another as described below.
>
> "Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
> ...
> > Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can be
> reinstalled
> > (moved to) a new computer. I understand that it can be done on
the
> RETAIL
> > version by calling MS to reactivate because hardware changes
drastically,
> > but I heard someone say MS would refuse to allow this on OEM
version.
> >
> > Here's the deal.......I want to add another hard drive and load XP
(Dual
> > Boot) on my old system. Then this winter, build a new box and
move XP
> to
> > it.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Joe101
December 5th 03, 01:19 AM
Bruce,
This seems logical, but some don't agree, what is your source?
Joe
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a
> motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft has
> greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are _permanently_
> bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An OEM license,
> once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under
> any circumstances. This is the best reason to avoid OEM versions; if
> the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even stolen), you cannot
> re-use your OEM license on a new PC.
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> ----
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
> ...
> > Let me clarify where I will get the OEM versions. Many of the
> motherboard
> > and parts suppliers offer Full OEM Versions when purchasing a
> motherboard or
> > new hard drive. Not sure whether I will get Home or Pro versions,
> but I
> > want to move the OS from one PC to another as described below.
> >
> > "Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can be
> > reinstalled
> > > (moved to) a new computer. I understand that it can be done on
> the
> > RETAIL
> > > version by calling MS to reactivate because hardware changes
> drastically,
> > > but I heard someone say MS would refuse to allow this on OEM
> version.
> > >
> > > Here's the deal.......I want to add another hard drive and load XP
> (Dual
> > > Boot) on my old system. Then this winter, build a new box and
> move XP
> > to
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 01:19 AM
Greetings --
I read the EULA. It is in plain English, you know. ;-} The
pertinent paragraphs are:
The term "COMPUTER" as used herein shall mean the HARDWARE, if
the HARDWARE is a single computer system, or shall mean the
computer system with which the HARDWARE operates, if the
HARDWARE is a computer system component.
and
* Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED,
TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY
ON DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The SOFTWARE
is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single integrated
product and may only be used with the HARDWARE. If the
SOFTWARE is not accompanied by new HARDWARE, you may
not use the SOFTWARE. You may permanently transfer all
of your rights under this EULA only as part of a
permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE, provided
you retain no copies, if you transfer all of the SOFTWARE
(including all component parts, the media and printed
materials, any upgrades, this EULA and the Certificate
of Authenticity), and the recipient agrees to the terms
of this EULA. If the SOFTWARE is an upgrade, any
transfer must also include all prior versions of the
SOFTWARE.
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
----
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
"Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
...
> Bruce,
> This seems logical, but some don't agree, what is your source?
> Joe
>
Joe101
December 5th 03, 01:19 AM
Bruce
I assume this is an OEM EULA and not a RETAIL EULA?
Did it come with a system like a Dell or Compaq?
Or was it purchased with a motherboard?
Thanks, Joe
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> I read the EULA. It is in plain English, you know. ;-} The
> pertinent paragraphs are:
>
> The term "COMPUTER" as used herein shall mean the HARDWARE, if
> the HARDWARE is a single computer system, or shall mean the
> computer system with which the HARDWARE operates, if the
> HARDWARE is a computer system component.
>
> and
>
> * Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
> LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED,
> TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY
> ON DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The SOFTWARE
> is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single integrated
> product and may only be used with the HARDWARE. If the
> SOFTWARE is not accompanied by new HARDWARE, you may
> not use the SOFTWARE. You may permanently transfer all
> of your rights under this EULA only as part of a
> permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE, provided
> you retain no copies, if you transfer all of the SOFTWARE
> (including all component parts, the media and printed
> materials, any upgrades, this EULA and the Certificate
> of Authenticity), and the recipient agrees to the terms
> of this EULA. If the SOFTWARE is an upgrade, any
> transfer must also include all prior versions of the
> SOFTWARE.
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> ----
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
> ...
> > Bruce,
> > This seems logical, but some don't agree, what is your source?
> > Joe
> >
>
>
Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 01:20 AM
Greetings --
The quotations are from an OEM WinXP Home EULA from a Gateway
laptop, but I'm confident the generic OEM EULA reads the same; no
one's pointed out any different verbiage from another OEM EULA, to
date.
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
----
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
"Joe101" <not valid@email> wrote in message
...
> Bruce
> I assume this is an OEM EULA and not a RETAIL EULA?
> Did it come with a system like a Dell or Compaq?
> Or was it purchased with a motherboard?
> Thanks, Joe
>
Michael Stevens
December 5th 03, 07:44 AM
Joe101 wrote:
> Does anyone know if eitherXP Home or XP Pro OEM versions can be
> reinstalled (moved to) a new computer. I understand that it can be
> done on the RETAIL version by calling MS to reactivate because
> hardware changes drastically, but I heard someone say MS would refuse
> to allow this on OEM version.
>
> Here's the deal.......I want to add another hard drive and load XP
> (Dual Boot) on my old system. Then this winter, build a new box
> and move XP to it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
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