deleted files

[steve]

is it ever possible to retrieve a file that has been
deleted through the recycle bin? are these deleted files
stored anywhere else on the computer?
thanks.
steve

[Gerhard Ziran]

Steve,

when you delete files into the recycle bin, they can be restored
easily by opening the recycle bin, right-clicking the file and
selecting the Restore option from the context menu.

If you delete a file from the recycle bin by emptying it, the actual
data will still reside on your disk; only the file system directory
entry is deleted. There are utilities available that can restore this
data, but none are included with Windows. Actually there are entire
companies specializing in this kind of data recovery from deleted and
even formatted disks.

However, with the directory entry gone, the disk area where your file
was stored is marked as available space and will eventually be
overwritten with another file.

If your question actually is how to reliably remove data from your
disk, simply deleting the file is not enough. You can get utilities
which will not only delete the directory entry but also scramble and
overwrite the actual data in one or more passes. This is about as
secure as you can get, short of physically destroying the disk or
magnetically wiping it.

On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:14:27 -0700, "steve" > wrote:

>is it ever possible to retrieve a file that has been
>deleted through the recycle bin? are these deleted files
>stored anywhere else on the computer?
>thanks.
>steve

Gerd Ziran
[MS MVP-DTS]

[M. Rajesh]

Hi,

No it is not possible. once deleted it is gone forever.

Regards
M. Rajesh
>-----Original Message-----
>is it ever possible to retrieve a file that has been
>deleted through the recycle bin? are these deleted
files
>stored anywhere else on the computer?
>thanks.
>steve
>.
>

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Not necessarily, this free utility can recover them if they have not =
been overwritten:
http://hccweb1.bai.ne.jp/~hcj58401/

Keep in mind that emptying the RB just marks that file space as =
available, it doesn't actually erase the file. The file will remain =
until the space it occupies is overwritten with new data. Even then, =
with the proper (expensive) tools and knowledge, recovery may still be =
possible.

--=20
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Win98 Help - www.rickrogers.org

"M. Rajesh" > wrote in message =
...
> Hi,
>=20
> No it is not possible. once deleted it is gone forever.
>=20
> Regards
> M. Rajesh
> >-----Original Message-----
> >is it ever possible to retrieve a file that has been=20
> >deleted through the recycle bin? are these deleted=20
> files=20
> >stored anywhere else on the computer?
> >thanks.
> >steve
> >.
> >

[Mike Brearley]

That's not true at all!!! There are quite a few programs that can recover
deleted files. Norton unerase is one, there are some free ones and more
intense ones that WILL recover the file if the location it was stored in was
not overwritten. These more intense programs can recover all the data on a
drive that was formatted, I know this from experience.

Just make sure not to do much of anything on your system until you get a
program and run the process to recover the file. If you save information on
your drive after the file was deleted, the location on the hard drive where
it existed may be overwritten and the file lost forever.

Try to get some facts before replying. Mis-information for this user would
make them go about their normal business, saving files, playing games,
installing programs or whatever... and in turn make it so the file will
then be gone forever.

--
Thanks,
Mike



"M. Rajesh" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> No it is not possible. once deleted it is gone forever.
>
> Regards
> M. Rajesh
> >-----Original Message-----
> >is it ever possible to retrieve a file that has been
> >deleted through the recycle bin? are these deleted
> files
> >stored anywhere else on the computer?
> >thanks.
> >steve
> >.
> >

[Ken Blake]

In , M. Rajesh wrote:

> No it is not possible. once deleted it is gone forever.


No, this is not necessarily true.

Deleting files doesn't actually delete them, it just marks the
space as free to be used. So if the space hasn't actually been
reused yet, you can recover any deleted file, using special
undelete software (there are several such products, and some are
freeware or shareware and available for downloading).

The problem is that even if you don't create or save any new
files, Windows itself is very likely to overwrite the space
quickly. So the sooner you attempt to undelete the files, the
better your chances. Stop using the computer in question
immediately, if you haven't already done so. Download the
undelete software on another computer and bring it yours on a
diskette or cd.

Failing that, your only other option is to use a data recovery
service. These can even often recover data that's been
overwritten. But be aware that their service is *very* expensive.

--
Ken Blake
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> is it ever possible to retrieve a file that has been
>> deleted through the recycle bin? are these deleted files
>> stored anywhere else on the computer?
>> thanks.
>> steve
>> .

[Dr. Harvie Wahl-Banghor]

Some time, on or about: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:14:27 -0700, "steve"
> was criminally insane in my professional opinion
when they claimed the following balderdash:

>is it ever possible to retrieve a file that has been
>deleted through the recycle bin? are these deleted files
>stored anywhere else on the computer?
>thanks.
>steve

People think that just because you delete a file on a hard drive that
it's gone for good. Windows never actually fully deletes anything and
a file is still available till that space is over written by new data.
The trick is retrieving that file. Programs like Norton System Works
provide a recovery program and I imagine there are others out there
that are freeware or shareware.

[Mike Brearley]

"Dr. Harvie Wahl-Banghor" > wrote in message
...
> Some time, on or about: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:14:27 -0700, "steve"
> > was criminally insane in my professional opinion
> when they claimed the following balderdash:
>
> >is it ever possible to retrieve a file that has been
> >deleted through the recycle bin? are these deleted files
> >stored anywhere else on the computer?
> >thanks.
> >steve
>
> People think that just because you delete a file on a hard drive that
> it's gone for good. Windows never actually fully deletes anything and
> a file is still available till that space is over written by new data.
> The trick is retrieving that file. Programs like Norton System Works
> provide a recovery program and I imagine there are others out there
> that are freeware or shareware.

And these people are usually considered novices when it comes to computers.
Not everyone out there knows everything there is to know. M. Rajesh
responded that the file is gone forever, he's the one at fault. He
shouldn't have responded with incorrect information. But then again, he
probably thought he knew what he was talking about. That's one of the
inherent problems with news groups, you don't know the validity of the
answers your getting as the person responding may have no clue what they are
talking about or they be an expert and know exactly what they are talking
about.

--
Mike