Bill James
December 8th 03, 06:24 AM
The KB article for password rejection using the Recovery Console gives =
information on how to obtain the hotfix by calling MS Support. As long =
as you have that specific problem and do not ask any other support =
questions during the call you will not be charged for the call.
You might want to check your RAM with a good boot disk diagnostic =
checker such as Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page: =
http://www.memtest86.com/. Bad RAM could have caused the original =
problem and the problems with repair install.
--=20
Bill James
Microsoft MVP=B7DTS
Win9x VBScript Utilities =BB www.billsway.com/vbspage/
Windows Tweaks & Tips =BB www.billsway.com/notes_public/
"Paul" > wrote in message =
...
> WinXP Pro Not Booting - Challenging Problem for Experts - Cant use =
Recovery
> Console or Repair, Install Loops + Encrypted Data to retrive
>=20
> ******Issue******
>=20
> Laptop wouldnt boot due to a registry issue/corruption - Was able to =
go into
> windows and login, but no shell (start menu, desktop, icons etc)
>=20
> Safe Mode, Last Know Good and all other users profiles didnt work =
either -
> same issue as above.
>=20
> I do not have a ASR Boot Disk, but do have a System State backup on my
> drive.
>=20
> *****Fixs Tried******
>=20
> 1. Recovery Console
>=20
> Tried using Recovery Console from WinXP CD, ie. Boot from XP CD
>=20
> Refer
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;307545
> How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP from
> Starting.
> (The procedure described in this article uses Recovery Console and =
System
> Restore)
>=20
> This worked until I got to the Admin password prompt. It then failed =
as
> there is a bug with Recovery Console and some machines where XP was =
OEM
> installed. So its not possible to run Recovery Console.
>=20
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;308402 - =
'The
> Password Is Not Valid' Error Message Appears When You Log On to =
Recovery
> Console in WinXP
>=20
> 2. Repair from XP CD
>=20
> I next tried a repair from CD per MS KB article.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;315341 - How =
to
> Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP
>=20
> This started to work but then after installing drivers and adding CD =
Key it
> restarted the PC (reading about 32 minutes remaining). It restarts the
> install from scratch again (......"restarting Setup.....")
>=20
> And It goes round and round in this loop. Probably due to the auto =
restart
> on device install failure or perhaps because of the corrupt registry.
>=20
> *******Current Status******
>=20
> Starting PC now restarts the WinXP install as it never finished last =
time,
> ie. it DOESNT go to a Win Startup Adv Start Up menu now.
>=20
> So I'm kind off half way into an install that wont complete. Its =
possible to
> boot with XP CD and go to Recovery Console and/or XP Install. But =
neither
> work.
>=20
> I could do a new install maybe but this may not work either and =
may????
> result in me not being able to access user profiles and data that is
> ENCRYPTED using WinXP EFS - I do not have the key saved anywhere to =
disk
> etc.
>=20
> *******
> I am really desperate on what to do with this due ro my 8GB's of =
encrypted
> data, can anyone please help?
> *******
>=20
> I have contacted MS and the OEM and they are no help, expect to try a
> parallel install of Windows which will I'm sure will lose all my =
encrypted
> data, or at leas never allow me to access it again.
>=20
> I think I need an NTFS Dos type app so that I can follow a [semi] =
normal
> procedure for system restore per KB article on using the recovery =
console.
>=20
>=20
> *****Can anyone provide any light please:*******
>=20
> 1. What options do I have?
>=20
> 2. Can I save my data anyway? esp. given that its encrypted?
>=20
> 3. Is using some sort of NTFS DOS type app going to be enough for me =
to
> restore some standard registry setting settings to boot?
>=20
> 4 If I do this will it boot given that I am now half way through a =
new
> install that wont finish?
>=20
> 5. Is it possible to force the install to complete, disable the flag
> somewhere that is making it reboot?
>=20
> 6. Will the restore options,ie. converting back to an original =
registry work
> given that I seem to be half way through an install? If I do this it =
may not
> boot anyway?
>=20
> *******
>=20
> I'd really appreciate any help that people can give me, feel free to =
email
> group or myself direct. Im sure that others must have had this =
problem.
> Basically if it had not been for the MS BUG with Recovery Console and =
OEM
> version of XP I would have had it fixed in 30 minutes.
>=20
> Regards
> Paul
>=20
> ps. For more on the repair options I have tried you can check out this
> excellent resource with screen shots:
> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
>=20
> Also I think reinstalling will also cause some data loss according to:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;312369 -You =
May Lose
> Data or Program Settings After Reinstalling, Repairing, or Upgrading =
Windows
> XP
>=20
>
information on how to obtain the hotfix by calling MS Support. As long =
as you have that specific problem and do not ask any other support =
questions during the call you will not be charged for the call.
You might want to check your RAM with a good boot disk diagnostic =
checker such as Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page: =
http://www.memtest86.com/. Bad RAM could have caused the original =
problem and the problems with repair install.
--=20
Bill James
Microsoft MVP=B7DTS
Win9x VBScript Utilities =BB www.billsway.com/vbspage/
Windows Tweaks & Tips =BB www.billsway.com/notes_public/
"Paul" > wrote in message =
...
> WinXP Pro Not Booting - Challenging Problem for Experts - Cant use =
Recovery
> Console or Repair, Install Loops + Encrypted Data to retrive
>=20
> ******Issue******
>=20
> Laptop wouldnt boot due to a registry issue/corruption - Was able to =
go into
> windows and login, but no shell (start menu, desktop, icons etc)
>=20
> Safe Mode, Last Know Good and all other users profiles didnt work =
either -
> same issue as above.
>=20
> I do not have a ASR Boot Disk, but do have a System State backup on my
> drive.
>=20
> *****Fixs Tried******
>=20
> 1. Recovery Console
>=20
> Tried using Recovery Console from WinXP CD, ie. Boot from XP CD
>=20
> Refer
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;307545
> How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP from
> Starting.
> (The procedure described in this article uses Recovery Console and =
System
> Restore)
>=20
> This worked until I got to the Admin password prompt. It then failed =
as
> there is a bug with Recovery Console and some machines where XP was =
OEM
> installed. So its not possible to run Recovery Console.
>=20
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;308402 - =
'The
> Password Is Not Valid' Error Message Appears When You Log On to =
Recovery
> Console in WinXP
>=20
> 2. Repair from XP CD
>=20
> I next tried a repair from CD per MS KB article.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;315341 - How =
to
> Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP
>=20
> This started to work but then after installing drivers and adding CD =
Key it
> restarted the PC (reading about 32 minutes remaining). It restarts the
> install from scratch again (......"restarting Setup.....")
>=20
> And It goes round and round in this loop. Probably due to the auto =
restart
> on device install failure or perhaps because of the corrupt registry.
>=20
> *******Current Status******
>=20
> Starting PC now restarts the WinXP install as it never finished last =
time,
> ie. it DOESNT go to a Win Startup Adv Start Up menu now.
>=20
> So I'm kind off half way into an install that wont complete. Its =
possible to
> boot with XP CD and go to Recovery Console and/or XP Install. But =
neither
> work.
>=20
> I could do a new install maybe but this may not work either and =
may????
> result in me not being able to access user profiles and data that is
> ENCRYPTED using WinXP EFS - I do not have the key saved anywhere to =
disk
> etc.
>=20
> *******
> I am really desperate on what to do with this due ro my 8GB's of =
encrypted
> data, can anyone please help?
> *******
>=20
> I have contacted MS and the OEM and they are no help, expect to try a
> parallel install of Windows which will I'm sure will lose all my =
encrypted
> data, or at leas never allow me to access it again.
>=20
> I think I need an NTFS Dos type app so that I can follow a [semi] =
normal
> procedure for system restore per KB article on using the recovery =
console.
>=20
>=20
> *****Can anyone provide any light please:*******
>=20
> 1. What options do I have?
>=20
> 2. Can I save my data anyway? esp. given that its encrypted?
>=20
> 3. Is using some sort of NTFS DOS type app going to be enough for me =
to
> restore some standard registry setting settings to boot?
>=20
> 4 If I do this will it boot given that I am now half way through a =
new
> install that wont finish?
>=20
> 5. Is it possible to force the install to complete, disable the flag
> somewhere that is making it reboot?
>=20
> 6. Will the restore options,ie. converting back to an original =
registry work
> given that I seem to be half way through an install? If I do this it =
may not
> boot anyway?
>=20
> *******
>=20
> I'd really appreciate any help that people can give me, feel free to =
> group or myself direct. Im sure that others must have had this =
problem.
> Basically if it had not been for the MS BUG with Recovery Console and =
OEM
> version of XP I would have had it fixed in 30 minutes.
>=20
> Regards
> Paul
>=20
> ps. For more on the repair options I have tried you can check out this
> excellent resource with screen shots:
> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
>=20
> Also I think reinstalling will also cause some data loss according to:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;312369 -You =
May Lose
> Data or Program Settings After Reinstalling, Repairing, or Upgrading =
Windows
> XP
>=20
>