Bill James
December 8th 03, 06:27 AM
With the problems you are describing, I still think you should check the =
RAM. If that checks out, I would be sure to remove any PCMICA cards or =
external devices you might have, including docking port if present, then =
try the repair install again.
--=20
Bill James
Microsoft MVP=B7DTS
Win9x VBScript Utilities =BB www.billsway.com/vbspage/
Windows Tweaks & Tips =BB www.billsway.com/notes_public/
"Paul" > wrote in message =
...
> Bill, thanks for the response, however as I am unable to boot the =
machine
> into anything resembling Windows I am therefore unable to apply a =
patch to
> resolve the Recovery Console password problem (KB 307545).
>=20
> Anyone know a way of fixing the recovery Console Password issue by say
> getting the files themselves and copying them to the appropriate =
location?
>=20
> Basically I need to get a recovery console type thing happening so =
that I
> can restore registry files for the system to boot, assuming it can =
given
> that it has stopped half way through an install......Please see email =
below
> regarding full extent of issue........
>=20
> Cheers
> Paul
>=20
> <<>>
> "Bill James" > wrote in message
> ...
> The KB article for password rejection using the Recovery Console gives
> information on how to obtain the hotfix by calling MS Support. As =
long as
> you have that specific problem and do not ask any other support =
questions
> during the call you will not be charged for the call.
>=20
> You might want to check your RAM with a good boot disk diagnostic =
checker
> such as Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page: http://www.memtest86.com/. =
Bad
> RAM could have caused the original problem and the problems with =
repair
> install.
>=20
> --
>=20
> Bill James
> Microsoft MVP=B7DTS
>=20
> Win9x VBScript Utilities =BB www.billsway.com/vbspage/
> Windows Tweaks & Tips =BB www.billsway.com/notes_public/
>=20
> "Paul" > wrote in message
> ...
> > WinXP Pro Not Booting - Challenging Problem for Experts - Cant use
> Recovery
> > Console or Repair, Install Loops + Encrypted Data to retrive
> >
> > ******Issue******
> >
> > Laptop wouldnt boot due to a registry issue/corruption - Was able to =
go
> into
> > windows and login, but no shell (start menu, desktop, icons etc)
> >
> > Safe Mode, Last Know Good and all other users profiles didnt work =
either -
> > same issue as above.
> >
> > I do not have a ASR Boot Disk, but do have a System State backup on =
my
> > drive.
> >
> > *****Fixs Tried******
> >
> > 1. Recovery Console
> >
> > Tried using Recovery Console from WinXP CD, ie. Boot from XP CD
> >
> > Refer
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;307545
> > How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP =
from
> > Starting.
> > (The procedure described in this article uses Recovery Console and =
System
> > Restore)
> >
> > This worked until I got to the Admin password prompt. It then failed =
as
> > there is a bug with Recovery Console and some machines where XP was =
OEM
> > installed. So its not possible to run Recovery Console.
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;308402 - =
'The
> > Password Is Not Valid' Error Message Appears When You Log On to =
Recovery
> > Console in WinXP
> >
> > 2. Repair from XP CD
> >
> > I next tried a repair from CD per MS KB article.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;315341 - =
How to
> > Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP
> >
> > This started to work but then after installing drivers and adding CD =
Key
> it
> > restarted the PC (reading about 32 minutes remaining). It restarts =
the
> > install from scratch again (......"restarting Setup.....")
> >
> > And It goes round and round in this loop. Probably due to the auto =
restart
> > on device install failure or perhaps because of the corrupt =
registry.
> >
> > *******Current Status******
> >
> > Starting PC now restarts the WinXP install as it never finished last =
time,
> > ie. it DOESNT go to a Win Startup Adv Start Up menu now.
> >
> > So I'm kind off half way into an install that wont complete. Its =
possible
> to
> > boot with XP CD and go to Recovery Console and/or XP Install. But =
neither
> > work.
> >
> > I could do a new install maybe but this may not work either and =
may????
> > result in me not being able to access user profiles and data that is
> > ENCRYPTED using WinXP EFS - I do not have the key saved anywhere to =
disk
> > etc.
> >
> > *******
> > I am really desperate on what to do with this due ro my 8GB's of =
encrypted
> > data, can anyone please help?
> > *******
> >
> > I have contacted MS and the OEM and they are no help, expect to try =
a
> > parallel install of Windows which will I'm sure will lose all my =
encrypted
> > data, or at leas never allow me to access it again.
> >
> > I think I need an NTFS Dos type app so that I can follow a [semi] =
normal
> > procedure for system restore per KB article on using the recovery =
console.
> >
> >
> > *****Can anyone provide any light please:*******
> >
> > 1. What options do I have?
> >
> > 2. Can I save my data anyway? esp. given that its encrypted?
> >
> > 3. Is using some sort of NTFS DOS type app going to be enough for me =
to
> > restore some standard registry setting settings to boot?
> >
> > 4 If I do this will it boot given that I am now half way through a =
new
> > install that wont finish?
> >
> > 5. Is it possible to force the install to complete, disable the flag
> > somewhere that is making it reboot?
> >
> > 6. Will the restore options,ie. converting back to an original =
registry
> work
> > given that I seem to be half way through an install? If I do this it =
may
> not
> > boot anyway?
> >
> > *******
> >
> > I'd really appreciate any help that people can give me, feel free to =
email
> > group or myself direct. Im sure that others must have had this =
problem.
> > Basically if it had not been for the MS BUG with Recovery Console =
and OEM
> > version of XP I would have had it fixed in 30 minutes.
> >
> > Regards
> > Paul
> >
> > ps. For more on the repair options I have tried you can check out =
this
> > excellent resource with screen shots:
> > http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
> >
> > Also I think reinstalling will also cause some data loss according =
to:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;312369 =
-You May
> Lose
> > Data or Program Settings After Reinstalling, Repairing, or Upgrading
> Windows
> > XP
> >
> >
>=20
>
RAM. If that checks out, I would be sure to remove any PCMICA cards or =
external devices you might have, including docking port if present, then =
try the repair install again.
--=20
Bill James
Microsoft MVP=B7DTS
Win9x VBScript Utilities =BB www.billsway.com/vbspage/
Windows Tweaks & Tips =BB www.billsway.com/notes_public/
"Paul" > wrote in message =
...
> Bill, thanks for the response, however as I am unable to boot the =
machine
> into anything resembling Windows I am therefore unable to apply a =
patch to
> resolve the Recovery Console password problem (KB 307545).
>=20
> Anyone know a way of fixing the recovery Console Password issue by say
> getting the files themselves and copying them to the appropriate =
location?
>=20
> Basically I need to get a recovery console type thing happening so =
that I
> can restore registry files for the system to boot, assuming it can =
given
> that it has stopped half way through an install......Please see email =
below
> regarding full extent of issue........
>=20
> Cheers
> Paul
>=20
> <<>>
> "Bill James" > wrote in message
> ...
> The KB article for password rejection using the Recovery Console gives
> information on how to obtain the hotfix by calling MS Support. As =
long as
> you have that specific problem and do not ask any other support =
questions
> during the call you will not be charged for the call.
>=20
> You might want to check your RAM with a good boot disk diagnostic =
checker
> such as Memtest86 - Memory Diagnostic Page: http://www.memtest86.com/. =
Bad
> RAM could have caused the original problem and the problems with =
repair
> install.
>=20
> --
>=20
> Bill James
> Microsoft MVP=B7DTS
>=20
> Win9x VBScript Utilities =BB www.billsway.com/vbspage/
> Windows Tweaks & Tips =BB www.billsway.com/notes_public/
>=20
> "Paul" > wrote in message
> ...
> > WinXP Pro Not Booting - Challenging Problem for Experts - Cant use
> Recovery
> > Console or Repair, Install Loops + Encrypted Data to retrive
> >
> > ******Issue******
> >
> > Laptop wouldnt boot due to a registry issue/corruption - Was able to =
go
> into
> > windows and login, but no shell (start menu, desktop, icons etc)
> >
> > Safe Mode, Last Know Good and all other users profiles didnt work =
either -
> > same issue as above.
> >
> > I do not have a ASR Boot Disk, but do have a System State backup on =
my
> > drive.
> >
> > *****Fixs Tried******
> >
> > 1. Recovery Console
> >
> > Tried using Recovery Console from WinXP CD, ie. Boot from XP CD
> >
> > Refer
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;307545
> > How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry That Prevents Windows XP =
from
> > Starting.
> > (The procedure described in this article uses Recovery Console and =
System
> > Restore)
> >
> > This worked until I got to the Admin password prompt. It then failed =
as
> > there is a bug with Recovery Console and some machines where XP was =
OEM
> > installed. So its not possible to run Recovery Console.
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;308402 - =
'The
> > Password Is Not Valid' Error Message Appears When You Log On to =
Recovery
> > Console in WinXP
> >
> > 2. Repair from XP CD
> >
> > I next tried a repair from CD per MS KB article.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;315341 - =
How to
> > Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP
> >
> > This started to work but then after installing drivers and adding CD =
Key
> it
> > restarted the PC (reading about 32 minutes remaining). It restarts =
the
> > install from scratch again (......"restarting Setup.....")
> >
> > And It goes round and round in this loop. Probably due to the auto =
restart
> > on device install failure or perhaps because of the corrupt =
registry.
> >
> > *******Current Status******
> >
> > Starting PC now restarts the WinXP install as it never finished last =
time,
> > ie. it DOESNT go to a Win Startup Adv Start Up menu now.
> >
> > So I'm kind off half way into an install that wont complete. Its =
possible
> to
> > boot with XP CD and go to Recovery Console and/or XP Install. But =
neither
> > work.
> >
> > I could do a new install maybe but this may not work either and =
may????
> > result in me not being able to access user profiles and data that is
> > ENCRYPTED using WinXP EFS - I do not have the key saved anywhere to =
disk
> > etc.
> >
> > *******
> > I am really desperate on what to do with this due ro my 8GB's of =
encrypted
> > data, can anyone please help?
> > *******
> >
> > I have contacted MS and the OEM and they are no help, expect to try =
a
> > parallel install of Windows which will I'm sure will lose all my =
encrypted
> > data, or at leas never allow me to access it again.
> >
> > I think I need an NTFS Dos type app so that I can follow a [semi] =
normal
> > procedure for system restore per KB article on using the recovery =
console.
> >
> >
> > *****Can anyone provide any light please:*******
> >
> > 1. What options do I have?
> >
> > 2. Can I save my data anyway? esp. given that its encrypted?
> >
> > 3. Is using some sort of NTFS DOS type app going to be enough for me =
to
> > restore some standard registry setting settings to boot?
> >
> > 4 If I do this will it boot given that I am now half way through a =
new
> > install that wont finish?
> >
> > 5. Is it possible to force the install to complete, disable the flag
> > somewhere that is making it reboot?
> >
> > 6. Will the restore options,ie. converting back to an original =
registry
> work
> > given that I seem to be half way through an install? If I do this it =
may
> not
> > boot anyway?
> >
> > *******
> >
> > I'd really appreciate any help that people can give me, feel free to =
> > group or myself direct. Im sure that others must have had this =
problem.
> > Basically if it had not been for the MS BUG with Recovery Console =
and OEM
> > version of XP I would have had it fixed in 30 minutes.
> >
> > Regards
> > Paul
> >
> > ps. For more on the repair options I have tried you can check out =
this
> > excellent resource with screen shots:
> > http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
> >
> > Also I think reinstalling will also cause some data loss according =
to:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;EN-US;312369 =
-You May
> Lose
> > Data or Program Settings After Reinstalling, Repairing, or Upgrading
> Windows
> > XP
> >
> >
>=20
>