Need Help Setting Up RAID0

[Mad Amoeba]

have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor and 80 gb
WD.
I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I should use a
regular parallel cable.
plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug other two
plugs into corresponding
harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master and another
to slave. I'm running win2k.

When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get 'not
bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.


there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
------------
Important notes on the RAID feature:
By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector follow the
ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk array.

The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER mode. An HDD
set to Slave mode does not work.

For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA and SATA
connectors or all the 3 connectors

FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA and SATA
connectors.

THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices such as
CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
---------------
So my question is : What order should I do things to get things working.
First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to dynamic. Convert
second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid controller on
the motherboard and run it. Right?

tHanx a million for all the reponses.

[D.Currie]

The only way I've ever done it is to set up the two drives, then install the
OS on the raid configuration, so it sees both drives as one.

"Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
...
> have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor and 80 gb
> WD.
> I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I should use a
> regular parallel cable.
> plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug other two
> plugs into corresponding
> harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master and
another
> to slave. I'm running win2k.
>
> When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get 'not
> bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
>
>
> there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
> ------------
> Important notes on the RAID feature:
> By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector follow
the
> ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk array.
>
> The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER mode. An HDD
> set to Slave mode does not work.
>
> For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA and SATA
> connectors or all the 3 connectors
>
> FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA and SATA
> connectors.
>
> THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices such as
> CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> ---------------
> So my question is : What order should I do things to get things working.
> First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to dynamic.
Convert
> second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid controller
on
> the motherboard and run it. Right?
>
> tHanx a million for all the reponses.
>
>
>

[Mad Amoeba]

Hi, Currie, thanx for replying.
So you first connected 2(empty) drives to the controller on the motherboard
with a parallel cable then,
started up the computer with a w2k cdrom in the drive and installed in a
regular manner. right?
Did you setup one of the drives to be master and another as slave or no
jumpers on either?
Did you need to partition them or convert them to dynamic drives or anything
else?


Thanx again for replying.

"D.Currie" > wrote in message
...
> The only way I've ever done it is to set up the two drives, then install
the
> OS on the raid configuration, so it sees both drives as one.
>
> "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> ...
> > have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor and 80
gb
> > WD.
> > I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I should use a
> > regular parallel cable.
> > plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug other two
> > plugs into corresponding
> > harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master and
> another
> > to slave. I'm running win2k.
> >
> > When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get 'not
> > bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
> >
> >
> > there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
> > ------------
> > Important notes on the RAID feature:
> > By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector follow
> the
> > ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk array.
> >
> > The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER mode. An
HDD
> > set to Slave mode does not work.
> >
> > For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA and SATA
> > connectors or all the 3 connectors
> >
> > FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA and SATA
> > connectors.
> >
> > THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices such as
> > CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> > ---------------
> > So my question is : What order should I do things to get things working.
> > First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to dynamic.
> Convert
> > second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid controller
> on
> > the motherboard and run it. Right?
> >
> > tHanx a million for all the reponses.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[D.Currie]

"Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
...
> Hi, Currie, thanx for replying.
> So you first connected 2(empty) drives to the controller on the
motherboard
> with a parallel cable then,
> started up the computer with a w2k cdrom in the drive and installed in a
> regular manner. right?

yep

> Did you setup one of the drives to be master and another as slave or no
> jumpers on either?

I believe it was master and slave, but it's been a while.

> Did you need to partition them or convert them to dynamic drives or
anything
> else?

With mine, there was a raid configuration utility that I ran before I
installed, and from there I chose the type of raid, etc. Then when I
installed the OS, it just saw it as a normal drive.

Sometimes you need to run a driver utility after you start the setup so the
OS sees the drive. Depends on how your raid works.

>
>
> Thanx again for replying.

no problem
>
> "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The only way I've ever done it is to set up the two drives, then install
> the
> > OS on the raid configuration, so it sees both drives as one.
> >
> > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor and 80
> gb
> > > WD.
> > > I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I should use
a
> > > regular parallel cable.
> > > plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug other
two
> > > plugs into corresponding
> > > harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master and
> > another
> > > to slave. I'm running win2k.
> > >
> > > When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get 'not
> > > bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
> > >
> > >
> > > there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
> > > ------------
> > > Important notes on the RAID feature:
> > > By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector
follow
> > the
> > > ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk array.
> > >
> > > The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER mode. An
> HDD
> > > set to Slave mode does not work.
> > >
> > > For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA and SATA
> > > connectors or all the 3 connectors
> > >
> > > FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA and SATA
> > > connectors.
> > >
> > > THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices such
as
> > > CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> > > ---------------
> > > So my question is : What order should I do things to get things
working.
> > > First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to dynamic.
> > Convert
> > > second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid
controller
> > on
> > > the motherboard and run it. Right?
> > >
> > > tHanx a million for all the reponses.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[dmd]

In order to run any RAID configuration, all drives must be the same size.
You can't just toss a 60GB and 80GB drive together, but two 60s or two 80s.

"D.Currie" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi, Currie, thanx for replying.
> > So you first connected 2(empty) drives to the controller on the
> motherboard
> > with a parallel cable then,
> > started up the computer with a w2k cdrom in the drive and installed in a
> > regular manner. right?
>
> yep
>
> > Did you setup one of the drives to be master and another as slave or no
> > jumpers on either?
>
> I believe it was master and slave, but it's been a while.
>
> > Did you need to partition them or convert them to dynamic drives or
> anything
> > else?
>
> With mine, there was a raid configuration utility that I ran before I
> installed, and from there I chose the type of raid, etc. Then when I
> installed the OS, it just saw it as a normal drive.
>
> Sometimes you need to run a driver utility after you start the setup so
the
> OS sees the drive. Depends on how your raid works.
>
> >
> >
> > Thanx again for replying.
>
> no problem
> >
> > "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > The only way I've ever done it is to set up the two drives, then
install
> > the
> > > OS on the raid configuration, so it sees both drives as one.
> > >
> > > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor and
80
> > gb
> > > > WD.
> > > > I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I should
use
> a
> > > > regular parallel cable.
> > > > plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug other
> two
> > > > plugs into corresponding
> > > > harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master and
> > > another
> > > > to slave. I'm running win2k.
> > > >
> > > > When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get 'not
> > > > bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
> > > > ------------
> > > > Important notes on the RAID feature:
> > > > By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector
> follow
> > > the
> > > > ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk
array.
> > > >
> > > > The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER mode.
An
> > HDD
> > > > set to Slave mode does not work.
> > > >
> > > > For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA and
SATA
> > > > connectors or all the 3 connectors
> > > >
> > > > FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA and
SATA
> > > > connectors.
> > > >
> > > > THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices such
> as
> > > > CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> > > > ---------------
> > > > So my question is : What order should I do things to get things
> working.
> > > > First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to dynamic.
> > > Convert
> > > > second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid
> controller
> > > on
> > > > the motherboard and run it. Right?
> > > >
> > > > tHanx a million for all the reponses.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[J. Allen]

Not true. I have successfully set up a raid0 with a Raptor 37 gig HD and a
Maxtor 120 gig HD. WinXP only recognized a combined 70 gig HD though.
"dmd" > wrote in message
.. .
> In order to run any RAID configuration, all drives must be the same size.
> You can't just toss a 60GB and 80GB drive together, but two 60s or two
80s.
>
> "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi, Currie, thanx for replying.
> > > So you first connected 2(empty) drives to the controller on the
> > motherboard
> > > with a parallel cable then,
> > > started up the computer with a w2k cdrom in the drive and installed in
a
> > > regular manner. right?
> >
> > yep
> >
> > > Did you setup one of the drives to be master and another as slave or
no
> > > jumpers on either?
> >
> > I believe it was master and slave, but it's been a while.
> >
> > > Did you need to partition them or convert them to dynamic drives or
> > anything
> > > else?
> >
> > With mine, there was a raid configuration utility that I ran before I
> > installed, and from there I chose the type of raid, etc. Then when I
> > installed the OS, it just saw it as a normal drive.
> >
> > Sometimes you need to run a driver utility after you start the setup so
> the
> > OS sees the drive. Depends on how your raid works.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx again for replying.
> >
> > no problem
> > >
> > > "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > The only way I've ever done it is to set up the two drives, then
> install
> > > the
> > > > OS on the raid configuration, so it sees both drives as one.
> > > >
> > > > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor
and
> 80
> > > gb
> > > > > WD.
> > > > > I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I should
> use
> > a
> > > > > regular parallel cable.
> > > > > plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug
other
> > two
> > > > > plugs into corresponding
> > > > > harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master
and
> > > > another
> > > > > to slave. I'm running win2k.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get
'not
> > > > > bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
> > > > > ------------
> > > > > Important notes on the RAID feature:
> > > > > By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector
> > follow
> > > > the
> > > > > ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk
> array.
> > > > >
> > > > > The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER mode.
> An
> > > HDD
> > > > > set to Slave mode does not work.
> > > > >
> > > > > For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA and
> SATA
> > > > > connectors or all the 3 connectors
> > > > >
> > > > > FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA and
> SATA
> > > > > connectors.
> > > > >
> > > > > THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices
such
> > as
> > > > > CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> > > > > ---------------
> > > > > So my question is : What order should I do things to get things
> > working.
> > > > > First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to
dynamic.
> > > > Convert
> > > > > second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid
> > controller
> > > > on
> > > > > the motherboard and run it. Right?
> > > > >
> > > > > tHanx a million for all the reponses.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[J. Allen]

Make sure you have the setup files for the raid controller on a floppy.
Press f6 during the boot process with the Winxp CD.
"Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
...
> have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor and 80 gb
> WD.
> I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I should use a
> regular parallel cable.
> plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug other two
> plugs into corresponding
> harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master and
another
> to slave. I'm running win2k.
>
> When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get 'not
> bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
>
>
> there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
> ------------
> Important notes on the RAID feature:
> By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector follow
the
> ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk array.
>
> The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER mode. An HDD
> set to Slave mode does not work.
>
> For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA and SATA
> connectors or all the 3 connectors
>
> FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA and SATA
> connectors.
>
> THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices such as
> CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> ---------------
> So my question is : What order should I do things to get things working.
> First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to dynamic.
Convert
> second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid controller
on
> the motherboard and run it. Right?
>
> tHanx a million for all the reponses.
>
>
>

[Mad Amoeba]

yep, my mobo's manual says that I CAN combine 2 different drives but the
performance won't be optimal.
I have windows 2000 and my mobo's manual isn't too clear on what I should do
exactly.

Here what it says:
-----------
The PDC20376 chipset supports Ultra ATA hard disk drives. For optimum
performance install identical drives
of the same model and capacity when creating a disk array. If you are
creting RAID 0 array for performace,
use 2 new drives.

<<What do they mean by 'new'

The chipset supports RAID 0 for master drives only.
Follow these steps to install the hard disks for RAID configuration
1.Set jumpers on each hd as master. Install the hard disks into the drive
bays
Connect HDD cables. Three connections options are available for creating a
RAID 0 array:
a. Connect one parallel ATA HDD to RAID connector and one SATA HDD to either
one
of the two serial ATA connectors using separate parallel or serial ATA
cables.
b. Connect one SATA HDD to each SATA connector using separate serial ATA
cables,
c. Connect one SATA HDD to the RAID connector and one SATA HDD to either one
of the two serial ATA connectors using separate parallel/serial ATA
cables.

<<On this part I'm not clear at all. I have two parallel hard drives, so are
the instructions above telling me that I can't
<<use 2 parallel drives in the RAID 0 at the same time?. I set jumpers on
both of them to master. Plug one end of the
<< cable into the RAID connector on the motherboard, middle connector into
the 60Gb
<<drive and first connector into the 80Gb drive. Is this the correct setup
or am I missing something?

Boot system and in the BIOS changes 'onboard SATA/IDE RAID Controller' to
enabled and 'onboard ARA device First ' to 'yes'

<<I changed these settings

At this point manual tells me that when I boot up MBFastBuild utility will
detect my drives. However when both of the
drives are plugged in, the system only detect one. So for example if I
unplug the 60gb drive the system successfully
detects the 80GB drive and when I unplug the 80GB drive the system
successfully detects the 60GB drive. However,
when both of them plugged in the system consistenly detects only the 80GB
drive on the RAID controller.

"J. Allen" > wrote in message
...
> Not true. I have successfully set up a raid0 with a Raptor 37 gig HD and
a
> Maxtor 120 gig HD. WinXP only recognized a combined 70 gig HD though.
> "dmd" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > In order to run any RAID configuration, all drives must be the same
size.
> > You can't just toss a 60GB and 80GB drive together, but two 60s or two
> 80s.
> >
> > "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi, Currie, thanx for replying.
> > > > So you first connected 2(empty) drives to the controller on the
> > > motherboard
> > > > with a parallel cable then,
> > > > started up the computer with a w2k cdrom in the drive and installed
in
> a
> > > > regular manner. right?
> > >
> > > yep
> > >
> > > > Did you setup one of the drives to be master and another as slave or
> no
> > > > jumpers on either?
> > >
> > > I believe it was master and slave, but it's been a while.
> > >
> > > > Did you need to partition them or convert them to dynamic drives or
> > > anything
> > > > else?
> > >
> > > With mine, there was a raid configuration utility that I ran before I
> > > installed, and from there I chose the type of raid, etc. Then when I
> > > installed the OS, it just saw it as a normal drive.
> > >
> > > Sometimes you need to run a driver utility after you start the setup
so
> > the
> > > OS sees the drive. Depends on how your raid works.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanx again for replying.
> > >
> > > no problem
> > > >
> > > > "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > The only way I've ever done it is to set up the two drives, then
> > install
> > > > the
> > > > > OS on the raid configuration, so it sees both drives as one.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor
> and
> > 80
> > > > gb
> > > > > > WD.
> > > > > > I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I
should
> > use
> > > a
> > > > > > regular parallel cable.
> > > > > > plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug
> other
> > > two
> > > > > > plugs into corresponding
> > > > > > harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master
> and
> > > > > another
> > > > > > to slave. I'm running win2k.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get
> 'not
> > > > > > bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
> > > > > > ------------
> > > > > > Important notes on the RAID feature:
> > > > > > By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector
> > > follow
> > > > > the
> > > > > > ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk
> > array.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER
mode.
> > An
> > > > HDD
> > > > > > set to Slave mode does not work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA
and
> > SATA
> > > > > > connectors or all the 3 connectors
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA
and
> > SATA
> > > > > > connectors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices
> such
> > > as
> > > > > > CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> > > > > > ---------------
> > > > > > So my question is : What order should I do things to get things
> > > working.
> > > > > > First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to
> dynamic.
> > > > > Convert
> > > > > > second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid
> > > controller
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the motherboard and run it. Right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tHanx a million for all the reponses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[D.Currie]

"Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
...
> yep, my mobo's manual says that I CAN combine 2 different drives but the
> performance won't be optimal.
> I have windows 2000 and my mobo's manual isn't too clear on what I should
do
> exactly.
>
> Here what it says:
> -----------
> The PDC20376 chipset supports Ultra ATA hard disk drives. For optimum
> performance install identical drives
> of the same model and capacity when creating a disk array. If you are
> creting RAID 0 array for performace,
> use 2 new drives.
>
> <<What do they mean by 'new'

no partitons, I would imagine.
>
> The chipset supports RAID 0 for master drives only.
> Follow these steps to install the hard disks for RAID configuration
> 1.Set jumpers on each hd as master.

There you go. Set both as master.

Install the hard disks into the drive
> bays
> Connect HDD cables. Three connections options are available for creating a
> RAID 0 array:
> a. Connect one parallel ATA HDD to RAID connector and one SATA HDD to
either
> one
> of the two serial ATA connectors using separate parallel or serial ATA
> cables.
> b. Connect one SATA HDD to each SATA connector using separate serial ATA
> cables,
> c. Connect one SATA HDD to the RAID connector and one SATA HDD to either
one
> of the two serial ATA connectors using separate parallel/serial ATA
> cables.
>
> <<On this part I'm not clear at all. I have two parallel hard drives, so
are
> the instructions above telling me that I can't
> <<use 2 parallel drives in the RAID 0 at the same time?.

That's what it looks like. Time to invest in a serial drive, I guess.

I set jumpers on
> both of them to master. Plug one end of the
> << cable into the RAID connector on the motherboard, middle connector into
> the 60Gb
> <<drive and first connector into the 80Gb drive. Is this the correct setup
> or am I missing something?

yup. You can't have two parallel drives. You have 1 raid connection that
will take one drive, and two serial connections that take one drive each.
Which makes sense. You want each drive to be on its own. Odd that they
didn't give you another raid connection, but they gave you serial and you've
probably also got standard IDE for CD drives, right?

>
> Boot system and in the BIOS changes 'onboard SATA/IDE RAID Controller' to
> enabled and 'onboard ARA device First ' to 'yes'
>
> <<I changed these settings
>
> At this point manual tells me that when I boot up MBFastBuild utility will
> detect my drives. However when both of the
> drives are plugged in, the system only detect one. So for example if I
> unplug the 60gb drive the system successfully
> detects the 80GB drive and when I unplug the 80GB drive the system
> successfully detects the 60GB drive. However,
> when both of them plugged in the system consistenly detects only the 80GB
> drive on the RAID controller.

The controller can only handle one drive, apparently. Which makes sense from
a performance point of view.

>
> "J. Allen" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Not true. I have successfully set up a raid0 with a Raptor 37 gig HD
and
> a
> > Maxtor 120 gig HD. WinXP only recognized a combined 70 gig HD though.
> > "dmd" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > In order to run any RAID configuration, all drives must be the same
> size.
> > > You can't just toss a 60GB and 80GB drive together, but two 60s or two
> > 80s.
> > >
> > > "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Hi, Currie, thanx for replying.
> > > > > So you first connected 2(empty) drives to the controller on the
> > > > motherboard
> > > > > with a parallel cable then,
> > > > > started up the computer with a w2k cdrom in the drive and
installed
> in
> > a
> > > > > regular manner. right?
> > > >
> > > > yep
> > > >
> > > > > Did you setup one of the drives to be master and another as slave
or
> > no
> > > > > jumpers on either?
> > > >
> > > > I believe it was master and slave, but it's been a while.
> > > >
> > > > > Did you need to partition them or convert them to dynamic drives
or
> > > > anything
> > > > > else?
> > > >
> > > > With mine, there was a raid configuration utility that I ran before
I
> > > > installed, and from there I chose the type of raid, etc. Then when I
> > > > installed the OS, it just saw it as a normal drive.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes you need to run a driver utility after you start the setup
> so
> > > the
> > > > OS sees the drive. Depends on how your raid works.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx again for replying.
> > > >
> > > > no problem
> > > > >
> > > > > "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > The only way I've ever done it is to set up the two drives, then
> > > install
> > > > > the
> > > > > > OS on the raid configuration, so it sees both drives as one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb
maxtor
> > and
> > > 80
> > > > > gb
> > > > > > > WD.
> > > > > > > I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I
> should
> > > use
> > > > a
> > > > > > > regular parallel cable.
> > > > > > > plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug
> > other
> > > > two
> > > > > > > plugs into corresponding
> > > > > > > harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to
master
> > and
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > > to slave. I'm running win2k.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get
> > 'not
> > > > > > > bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > there are also several notes on the raid feature in the
manual:
> > > > > > > ------------
> > > > > > > Important notes on the RAID feature:
> > > > > > > By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1
connector
> > > > follow
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a
disk
> > > array.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER
> mode.
> > > An
> > > > > HDD
> > > > > > > set to Slave mode does not work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA
> and
> > > SATA
> > > > > > > connectors or all the 3 connectors
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA
> and
> > > SATA
> > > > > > > connectors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI
devices
> > such
> > > > as
> > > > > > > CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> > > > > > > ---------------
> > > > > > > So my question is : What order should I do things to get
things
> > > > working.
> > > > > > > First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to
> > dynamic.
> > > > > > Convert
> > > > > > > second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid
> > > > controller
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the motherboard and run it. Right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tHanx a million for all the reponses.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mathiau]

chekc in your BIOS - you should have an area to set the raid to RAID0.

Mathiau.


"Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
...
> yep, my mobo's manual says that I CAN combine 2 different drives but the
> performance won't be optimal.
> I have windows 2000 and my mobo's manual isn't too clear on what I should
do
> exactly.
>
> Here what it says:
> -----------
> The PDC20376 chipset supports Ultra ATA hard disk drives. For optimum
> performance install identical drives
> of the same model and capacity when creating a disk array. If you are
> creting RAID 0 array for performace,
> use 2 new drives.
>
> <<What do they mean by 'new'
>
> The chipset supports RAID 0 for master drives only.
> Follow these steps to install the hard disks for RAID configuration
> 1.Set jumpers on each hd as master. Install the hard disks into the drive
> bays
> Connect HDD cables. Three connections options are available for creating a
> RAID 0 array:
> a. Connect one parallel ATA HDD to RAID connector and one SATA HDD to
either
> one
> of the two serial ATA connectors using separate parallel or serial ATA
> cables.
> b. Connect one SATA HDD to each SATA connector using separate serial ATA
> cables,
> c. Connect one SATA HDD to the RAID connector and one SATA HDD to either
one
> of the two serial ATA connectors using separate parallel/serial ATA
> cables.
>
> <<On this part I'm not clear at all. I have two parallel hard drives, so
are
> the instructions above telling me that I can't
> <<use 2 parallel drives in the RAID 0 at the same time?. I set jumpers on
> both of them to master. Plug one end of the
> << cable into the RAID connector on the motherboard, middle connector into
> the 60Gb
> <<drive and first connector into the 80Gb drive. Is this the correct setup
> or am I missing something?
>
> Boot system and in the BIOS changes 'onboard SATA/IDE RAID Controller' to
> enabled and 'onboard ARA device First ' to 'yes'
>
> <<I changed these settings
>
> At this point manual tells me that when I boot up MBFastBuild utility will
> detect my drives. However when both of the
> drives are plugged in, the system only detect one. So for example if I
> unplug the 60gb drive the system successfully
> detects the 80GB drive and when I unplug the 80GB drive the system
> successfully detects the 60GB drive. However,
> when both of them plugged in the system consistenly detects only the 80GB
> drive on the RAID controller.
>
> "J. Allen" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Not true. I have successfully set up a raid0 with a Raptor 37 gig HD
and
> a
> > Maxtor 120 gig HD. WinXP only recognized a combined 70 gig HD though.
> > "dmd" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > In order to run any RAID configuration, all drives must be the same
> size.
> > > You can't just toss a 60GB and 80GB drive together, but two 60s or two
> > 80s.
> > >
> > > "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Hi, Currie, thanx for replying.
> > > > > So you first connected 2(empty) drives to the controller on the
> > > > motherboard
> > > > > with a parallel cable then,
> > > > > started up the computer with a w2k cdrom in the drive and
installed
> in
> > a
> > > > > regular manner. right?
> > > >
> > > > yep
> > > >
> > > > > Did you setup one of the drives to be master and another as slave
or
> > no
> > > > > jumpers on either?
> > > >
> > > > I believe it was master and slave, but it's been a while.
> > > >
> > > > > Did you need to partition them or convert them to dynamic drives
or
> > > > anything
> > > > > else?
> > > >
> > > > With mine, there was a raid configuration utility that I ran before
I
> > > > installed, and from there I chose the type of raid, etc. Then when I
> > > > installed the OS, it just saw it as a normal drive.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes you need to run a driver utility after you start the setup
> so
> > > the
> > > > OS sees the drive. Depends on how your raid works.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx again for replying.
> > > >
> > > > no problem
> > > > >
> > > > > "D.Currie" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > The only way I've ever done it is to set up the two drives, then
> > > install
> > > > > the
> > > > > > OS on the raid configuration, so it sees both drives as one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb
maxtor
> > and
> > > 80
> > > > > gb
> > > > > > > WD.
> > > > > > > I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I
> should
> > > use
> > > > a
> > > > > > > regular parallel cable.
> > > > > > > plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug
> > other
> > > > two
> > > > > > > plugs into corresponding
> > > > > > > harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to
master
> > and
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > > to slave. I'm running win2k.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get
> > 'not
> > > > > > > bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > there are also several notes on the raid feature in the
manual:
> > > > > > > ------------
> > > > > > > Important notes on the RAID feature:
> > > > > > > By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1
connector
> > > > follow
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a
disk
> > > array.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER
> mode.
> > > An
> > > > > HDD
> > > > > > > set to Slave mode does not work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA
> and
> > > SATA
> > > > > > > connectors or all the 3 connectors
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA
> and
> > > SATA
> > > > > > > connectors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI
devices
> > such
> > > > as
> > > > > > > CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> > > > > > > ---------------
> > > > > > > So my question is : What order should I do things to get
things
> > > > working.
> > > > > > > First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to
> > dynamic.
> > > > > > Convert
> > > > > > > second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid
> > > > controller
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the motherboard and run it. Right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tHanx a million for all the reponses.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Bob Huntley]

Does the motherboard have a RAID controller chip?

The one's I've used always had two additional IDE connectors on the board -
and you used each one with a separate cable to the two hard disks, both set
up as Master disks.



"Mad Amoeba" > wrote in message
...
> have p4pe motherboard with pentium 2.4. Have 2 HD: 60 Gb maxtor and 80 gb
> WD.
> I want to make them into RAID 0. As far as i understand I should use a
> regular parallel cable.
> plug one end into the RAID connector on the motherboard. Plug other two
> plugs into corresponding
> harddrives and that's it. One of the harddrives is set to master and
another
> to slave. I'm running win2k.
>
> When I connect the 2 drives in the maner described above I get 'not
> bootable disk found' error. 'Please insert bootable disk'.
>
>
> there are also several notes on the raid feature in the manual:
> ------------
> Important notes on the RAID feature:
> By default the drive that you connect to the PRI-RAID1 connector follow
the
> ARA133/100/66/33 protocol as an independent drive not as a disk array.
>
> The PRI_RAID1 connector supports only one HDD set to MASTER mode. An HDD
> set to Slave mode does not work.
>
> For RAID0 configuration you may use any 2 of the parallel ATA and SATA
> connectors or all the 3 connectors
>
> FOR RAID1 configuration you may use any 2 of the Parallel ATA and SATA
> connectors.
>
> THE RAID/SATA controller chipset does not support ARAPI devices such as
> CDROMS and DVD ROMS etc.
> ---------------
> So my question is : What order should I do things to get things working.
> First setup windows 2000 on one of the disks convert it to dynamic.
Convert
> second disk to dynamic as well, then hook them up to the raid controller
on
> the motherboard and run it. Right?
>
> tHanx a million for all the reponses.
>
>
>

[Mad Amoeba]

What about the following:
Since I have only one RAID controller and 2 parallel HDs what if I

1. Connect one HD to the RAID controller and
2. Connect second HD to the regular IDE connector with another parallel
cable.

Will I be able to do RAID somehow with software perhaps at this point?

Both of my CDRWs will be running on another available IDE connector so that
HD
can be all by itself on the avialable IDE connector.

Is this possible.?