two CDRW drives, one ATAPI ch. or two?

[Randy Vikssten]

If one has two CDRW drives to install under
WinXP Pro, is there any real advantage in
putting the two optical drives on different
ATAPI channels for drive-to-drive copying?


*|RandyVikssten|*

[Nicholas]

Only One CD-R or CD-RW Disk Drive Can Be Used to Create=20
Compact Discs in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;en-us;294652

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"Randy Vikssten" > wrote in message:
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| If one has two CDRW drives to install under
| WinXP Pro, is there any real advantage in
| putting the two optical drives on different
| ATAPI channels for drive-to-drive copying?
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| *|RandyVikssten|*
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[Randy Vikssten]

The question still remains, though - should the CD writer
be put on a different ATAPI channel from the CD reader
if copying "on-the-fly" is to be done?

(In my current situation, I have an old CD/DVD-ROM drive
and a new CD+-RW/DVD-ROM drive, and I didn't want
to confuse the issue by involving different formats and media.
So just pretend it's a CD-ROM and a CD-RW.)


*|RandyVidssten|*


"Nicholas" wrote:
> Only One CD-R or CD-RW Disk Drive Can Be Used to Create
> Compact Discs in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;294652
>
> "Randy Vikssten" wrote:
> > If one has two CDRW drives to install under
> > WinXP Pro, is there any real advantage in
> > putting the two optical drives on different
> > ATAPI channels for drive-to-drive copying?

[Curt]

Yes. That' the way I went about it, only I used a pci ide controller card to
attach a new cd-rw because my second ide channel was already occupied with
my original cd-rw slaved to a zip drive.

HTH,
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"Randy Vikssten" > wrote in message
...
> The question still remains, though - should the CD writer
> be put on a different ATAPI channel from the CD reader
> if copying "on-the-fly" is to be done?
>
> (In my current situation, I have an old CD/DVD-ROM drive
> and a new CD+-RW/DVD-ROM drive, and I didn't want
> to confuse the issue by involving different formats and media.
> So just pretend it's a CD-ROM and a CD-RW.)
>
>
> *|RandyVidssten|*
>

[Randy Vikssten]

Our situations are really similar, as my CD/DVD-ROM
drive and my Zip drive currently use the secondary ATA
channel. The primary ATA channel on the mobo will be
freed up when I put the 2 new HDs on a PCI UltraATA
controller card, and I can put the new CD-RW on the
primary ATA channel that used to be for the single HD.
Guys in other NGs have said, though, that the time to
burn the data into the CD slows things down so that
contention for the channel doesn't affect throughput.
Has anybody experimented with configuring their
optical drives both ways, i.e. on the same channel and
then on different channels, and seen if their copy-on-
the-fly times differ?


*|RandyVikssten|*


"Curt" answered:
> Yes. That' the way I went about it, only I used a
> pci ide controller card to attach a new cd-rw
> because my second ide channel was already
.. occupied with my original cd-rw slaved to a zip drive.
>
> "Randy Vikssten" wrote:
> > The question still remains, though - should the CD writer
> > be put on a different ATAPI channel from the CD reader
> > if copying "on-the-fly" is to be done?
> >
> > (In my current situation, I have an old CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > and a new CD+-RW/DVD-ROM drive, and I didn't want
> > to confuse the issue by involving different formats and media.
> > So just pretend it's a CD-ROM and a CD-RW.)

[Curt]

I've not experimented with this myself but, it seems to me that the most
important thing is how fast data gets to the buffer and out again in either
setup. Having the HDs run through a card would slow data transfer down a
bit.....how much I can't say. Probably negligible.
In my present setup I use three burners. A 48x Iomega USB ,a 52x PlexWriter
and 10x HP 9300i that took the place of my regular cd-rom. Using either one,
I get rated burn speeds 95% of the time and that's fine for me. It may not
be for you.
You don't mention your system specs but, you probably already know how they
can affect burn speeds too. You'll just have to see what configuration works
best with your system.

Good luck,
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Curt.
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"Randy Vikssten" > wrote in message
...
> Our situations are really similar, as my CD/DVD-ROM
> drive and my Zip drive currently use the secondary ATA
> channel. The primary ATA channel on the mobo will be
> freed up when I put the 2 new HDs on a PCI UltraATA
> controller card, and I can put the new CD-RW on the
> primary ATA channel that used to be for the single HD.
> Guys in other NGs have said, though, that the time to
> burn the data into the CD slows things down so that
> contention for the channel doesn't affect throughput.
> Has anybody experimented with configuring their
> optical drives both ways, i.e. on the same channel and
> then on different channels, and seen if their copy-on-
> the-fly times differ?
>
>
> *|RandyVikssten|*
>
>
> "Curt" answered:
> > Yes. That' the way I went about it, only I used a
> > pci ide controller card to attach a new cd-rw
> > because my second ide channel was already
> . occupied with my original cd-rw slaved to a zip drive.
> >
> > "Randy Vikssten" wrote:
> > > The question still remains, though - should the CD writer
> > > be put on a different ATAPI channel from the CD reader
> > > if copying "on-the-fly" is to be done?
> > >
> > > (In my current situation, I have an old CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > > and a new CD+-RW/DVD-ROM drive, and I didn't want
> > > to confuse the issue by involving different formats and media.
> > > So just pretend it's a CD-ROM and a CD-RW.)
>

[X-ray Doc]

>-----Original Message-----
>Only One CD-R or CD-RW Disk Drive Can Be Used to Create
>Compact Discs in Windows XP
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;294652
>
>--
>Nicholas
>
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>"Randy Vikssten" > wrote in
message:
> ...
>
>| If one has two CDRW drives to install under
>| WinXP Pro, is there any real advantage in
>| putting the two optical drives on different
>| ATAPI channels for drive-to-drive copying?
>|
>|
>| *|RandyVikssten|*
>|
>.
>Nicholas,

I read the article you mentioned in your post. Do you
know what happens when you install a CD-RW drive and a
DVD-/+RW drive in the same system? The DVD-/+RW drive
can also burn CDs. I'd like to use the DVD drive mainly
for burning DVDs and the CD drive for burning CDs. But I
wonder if the second drive "enumerated" would be
disabled. If the second drive was the DVD burner, would
all burning be disabled or just the CD portion?

[Randy Vikssten]

"Curt" wrote:
> You'll just have to see what configuration works
> best with your system.


If I ever get the time to experiment with copying
CDs with the drives on different channels versus the
same channel, I'll post. But holographic storage
media may be standard by that time. :-)


*|RandyVikssten|*

[Curt]

I don't have a DVD-burner so I may be wrong about this but, I would think
recording would still be available on it despite having a regular CD-rw on
the system. I have 3 burners on my system.1 usb and 2 ide. Burning is
available on all 3. The same should apply with a DVD burner and a CD-rw.

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Curt.
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"X-ray Doc" > wrote in message
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>

>
> I read the article you mentioned in your post. Do you
> know what happens when you install a CD-RW drive and a
> DVD-/+RW drive in the same system? The DVD-/+RW drive
> can also burn CDs. I'd like to use the DVD drive mainly
> for burning DVDs and the CD drive for burning CDs. But I
> wonder if the second drive "enumerated" would be
> disabled. If the second drive was the DVD burner, would
> all burning be disabled or just the CD portion?

[X-ray Doc]

>-----Original Message-----
>I don't have a DVD-burner so I may be wrong about this
but, I would think
>recording would still be available on it despite having
a regular CD-rw on
>the system. I have 3 burners on my system.1 usb and 2
ide. Burning is
>available on all 3. The same should apply with a DVD
burner and a CD-rw.
>
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>Curt.
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>"X-ray Doc" > wrote in message
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>
>>
>> I read the article you mentioned in your post. Do you
>> know what happens when you install a CD-RW drive and a
>> DVD-/+RW drive in the same system? The DVD-/+RW drive
>> can also burn CDs. I'd like to use the DVD drive
mainly
>> for burning DVDs and the CD drive for burning CDs.
But I
>> wonder if the second drive "enumerated" would be
>> disabled. If the second drive was the DVD burner,
would
>> all burning be disabled or just the CD portion?
>
>
>.
>Thanks Curt. Are you running Windows XP? Did you have
to do anything special like a registry edit to get both
of the IDE drives to burn CDs?

[Curt]

I'm running XP Home with all the updates. I've not had to do anything to the
registry. My setup is as follows: a) burner # 1, (default), connected with a
pci ide controller card, b) burner #2, (took the place of standard cd-rom),
slaved to a ZIP 250 drive on ide # 2, c) burner #3 connected to usb port.
This setup has worked from day 1. What you're wanting to do should work too.
While file formats, (video, audio, text data), differ, the process of
burning/copying is the same for cd-rw's and dvd+r/r/rw's, it's just that the
dvd drives do it at slower speeds.

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"X-ray Doc" > wrote in message
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>
> >.
> >Thanks Curt. Are you running Windows XP? Did you have
> to do anything special like a registry edit to get both
> of the IDE drives to burn CDs?