SATA boot with 865G chipset

[Tony]

I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to connect
my CDRW.

However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
such driver on the Intel site.

Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need? Is
there something else I am missing?

Thanks in advance

[Alvin A Brown]

Hello Tony

Well have you went to GigaByte website and see if they have any
drivers for that on their website, because that's is where your going
to have to find them. Also have you tried calling their T. Support to
ask them about it.

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/Driver/Driver_GA-8S650GXM-P.htm



Alvin


Tony wrote:

> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to connect
> my CDRW.
>
> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
> such driver on the Intel site.
>
> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need? Is
> there something else I am missing?
>
> Thanks in advance

[Tony]

Yes I have been to Gigabyte. I left their tech support a
request. I was hoping to get an answer here faster.

Thanks



>-----Original Message-----
>Hello Tony
>
>Well have you went to GigaByte website and see if they
have any
>drivers for that on their website, because that's is
where your going
>to have to find them. Also have you tried calling their
T. Support to
>ask them about it.
>
>http://tw.giga-
byte.com/Motherboard/Support/Driver/Driver_GA-8S650GXM-
P.htm
>
>
>
>Alvin
>
>
>Tony wrote:
>
>> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
>> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
>> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
>> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
connect
>> my CDRW.
>>
>> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
>> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
>> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
>> such driver on the Intel site.
>>
>> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
>> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
Is
>> there something else I am missing?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
>.
>

[Pete Baker]

Tony

If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the ICH5 chipset then
you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6 procedure.

The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due to a incorrect BIOS
setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in the meantime, let
us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to install on.

Hope that helps
Pete
----------------------

"Tony" > wrote in message
...
> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to connect
> my CDRW.
>
> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
> such driver on the Intel site.
>
> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need? Is
> there something else I am missing?
>
> Thanks in advance

[tstites]

Did you try going into the raid/sata cofig? I have an ASUS
that required I did that first before my XP install would
allow it. Plus I did lose my Primary IDE.


>-----Original Message-----
>Tony
>
>If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
ICH5 chipset then
>you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
procedure.
>
>The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
to a incorrect BIOS
>setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in
the meantime, let
>us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
install on.
>
>Hope that helps
>Pete
>----------------------
>
>"Tony" > wrote in message
...
>> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
>> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
>> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
>> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
connect
>> my CDRW.
>>
>> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
>> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
>> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
>> such driver on the Intel site.
>>
>> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
>> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
Is
>> there something else I am missing?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
>
>.
>

[Tony]

Hi Pete,

My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru the
BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks like it
would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run the
XP install from CD, format the drive, load files, etc. but
when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating system
found.

I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they said
that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the board
does not support booting from the SATA native. You can
use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't think
I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the case.

Does any one out there have a 645G based board booting XP
from the SATA in native mode?

Thanks,
Tony



>-----Original Message-----
>Tony
>
>If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
ICH5 chipset then
>you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
procedure.
>
>The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
to a incorrect BIOS
>setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in
the meantime, let
>us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
install on.
>
>Hope that helps
>Pete
>----------------------
>
>"Tony" > wrote in message
...
>> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
>> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
>> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
>> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
connect
>> my CDRW.
>>
>> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
>> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
>> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
>> such driver on the Intel site.
>>
>> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
>> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
Is
>> there something else I am missing?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
>
>.
>

[Pete Baker]

No offence 'tstites'

but Asus mainboards have a whole bundle of their own problems with SATA. If
we can find out which Gigabyte mainboard is being used we should be able to
provide better help.

Pete
-------------------

"tstites" > wrote in message
...
> Did you try going into the raid/sata cofig? I have an ASUS
> that required I did that first before my XP install would
> allow it. Plus I did lose my Primary IDE.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Tony
> >
> >If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
> ICH5 chipset then
> >you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
> procedure.
> >
> >The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
> to a incorrect BIOS
> >setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in
> the meantime, let
> >us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
> install on.
> >
> >Hope that helps
> >Pete
> >----------------------
> >
> >"Tony" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
> >> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
> >> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
> >> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
> connect
> >> my CDRW.
> >>
> >> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
> >> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
> >> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
> >> such driver on the Intel site.
> >>
> >> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
> >> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
> Is
> >> there something else I am missing?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Tony]

My board does not do raid, just 2 sata ports.

Thanks

>-----Original Message-----
>Did you try going into the raid/sata cofig? I have an
ASUS
>that required I did that first before my XP install would
>allow it. Plus I did lose my Primary IDE.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Tony
>>
>>If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
>ICH5 chipset then
>>you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
>procedure.
>>
>>The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
>to a incorrect BIOS
>>setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in
>the meantime, let
>>us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
>install on.
>>
>>Hope that helps
>>Pete
>>----------------------
>>
>>"Tony" > wrote in message
...
>>> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which
uses
>>> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk
to
>>> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
>>> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
>connect
>>> my CDRW.
>>>
>>> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
>>> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
>>> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find
no
>>> such driver on the Intel site.
>>>
>>> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
>>> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
>Is
>>> there something else I am missing?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Tony]

oops, I meant 865G in my last post.

Does any one have an 865G based board booting from the
SATA port natively into XP?

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Pete,
>
>My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru the
>BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks like
it
>would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run the
>XP install from CD, format the drive, load files, etc.
but
>when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
>remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating system
>found.
>
>I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they
said
>that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the board
>does not support booting from the SATA native. You can
>use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't
think
>I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the case.
>
>Does any one out there have a 645G based board booting XP
>from the SATA in native mode?
>
>Thanks,
>Tony
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Tony
>>
>>If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
>ICH5 chipset then
>>you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
>procedure.
>>
>>The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
>to a incorrect BIOS
>>setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in
>the meantime, let
>>us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
>install on.
>>
>>Hope that helps
>>Pete
>>----------------------
>>
>>"Tony" > wrote in message
...
>>> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which
uses
>>> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk
to
>>> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
>>> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
>connect
>>> my CDRW.
>>>
>>> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
>>> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
>>> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find
no
>>> such driver on the Intel site.
>>>
>>> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
>>> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
>Is
>>> there something else I am missing?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Pete Baker]

Hi Tony

I'll assume the switch between 865G and 645G is a typo.

Here's a suggestion to try anyway -

From looking at your mainboard manual I'd set the On-Chip SATA to 'Auto' and
make sure that the SATA drive with XP installed is placed on the Channel
relating to SATA0.

Unfortunately it looks like your boot device priority is restricted to a
choice between the following

Floppy, LS120, HDD-0~3, SCSI, CDROM, ZIP, USB-FDD and USB-ZIP.

Some mainboards allow you to select the SCSI option as the first boot device
to boot from SATA and that's certainly worth trying, but with the ICH5
controlling the SATA drives (rather than a third party controller) I can't
guarantee that will work for you.

If your mainboard doesn't support 'boot from SATA' I'd blame Gigabyte rather
than anyone else - they should at least have made that limitation clear when
advertising the SATA capability.

If it doesn't, apart from using up your IDE channel, you might be better off
purchasing a PCI card-based controller for SATA - they will usually allow
RAID arrays to be set up too which will give you a slight expansion option.

Try setting boot device to SCSI anyway, with a careful check on where you
have the XP drive connected, and post an update.


Hope that helps
Pete
-------------------------

"Tony" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Pete,
>
> My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru the
> BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks like it
> would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run the
> XP install from CD, format the drive, load files, etc. but
> when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
> remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating system
> found.
>
> I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they said
> that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the board
> does not support booting from the SATA native. You can
> use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't think
> I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the case.
>
> Does any one out there have a 645G based board booting XP
> from the SATA in native mode?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Tony
> >
> >If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
> ICH5 chipset then
> >you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
> procedure.
> >
> >The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
> to a incorrect BIOS
> >setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in
> the meantime, let
> >us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
> install on.
> >
> >Hope that helps
> >Pete
> >----------------------
> >
> >"Tony" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
> >> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
> >> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
> >> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
> connect
> >> my CDRW.
> >>
> >> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
> >> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
> >> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
> >> such driver on the Intel site.
> >>
> >> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
> >> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
> Is
> >> there something else I am missing?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Tony]

Pete,

(It was a typo... been looking at too many chipsets today)
I'll try making 1st boot be SCSI and see what happens.

The last time I messed with RAID was with an ABIT KT7 and
the thing was no faster (in mode 5??... the one where both
drives are used concurrently for performance) than one
drive on a standard ATA100 port. Can you get a
significant performance bump with sata raid?


Thanks,
Tony




>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Tony
>
>I'll assume the switch between 865G and 645G is a typo.
>
>Here's a suggestion to try anyway -
>
>From looking at your mainboard manual I'd set the On-Chip
SATA to 'Auto' and
>make sure that the SATA drive with XP installed is placed
on the Channel
>relating to SATA0.
>
>Unfortunately it looks like your boot device priority is
restricted to a
>choice between the following
>
>Floppy, LS120, HDD-0~3, SCSI, CDROM, ZIP, USB-FDD and USB-
ZIP.
>
>Some mainboards allow you to select the SCSI option as
the first boot device
>to boot from SATA and that's certainly worth trying, but
with the ICH5
>controlling the SATA drives (rather than a third party
controller) I can't
>guarantee that will work for you.
>
>If your mainboard doesn't support 'boot from SATA' I'd
blame Gigabyte rather
>than anyone else - they should at least have made that
limitation clear when
>advertising the SATA capability.
>
>If it doesn't, apart from using up your IDE channel, you
might be better off
>purchasing a PCI card-based controller for SATA - they
will usually allow
>RAID arrays to be set up too which will give you a slight
expansion option.
>
>Try setting boot device to SCSI anyway, with a careful
check on where you
>have the XP drive connected, and post an update.
>
>
>Hope that helps
>Pete
>-------------------------
>
>"Tony" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi Pete,
>>
>> My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru
the
>> BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks like
it
>> would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run
the
>> XP install from CD, format the drive, load files, etc.
but
>> when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
>> remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating system
>> found.
>>
>> I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they
said
>> that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the board
>> does not support booting from the SATA native. You can
>> use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't
think
>> I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the
case.
>>
>> Does any one out there have a 645G based board booting
XP
>> from the SATA in native mode?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Tony
>> >
>> >If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
>> ICH5 chipset then
>> >you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
>> procedure.
>> >
>> >The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
>> to a incorrect BIOS
>> >setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and,
in
>> the meantime, let
>> >us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
>> install on.
>> >
>> >Hope that helps
>> >Pete
>> >----------------------
>> >
>> >"Tony" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which
uses
>> >> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA
disk to
>> >> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
>> >> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
>> connect
>> >> my CDRW.
>> >>
>> >> However if I configure the SATA port to run native,
the
>> >> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
>> >> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can
find no
>> >> such driver on the Intel site.
>> >>
>> >> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
>> >> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
>> Is
>> >> there something else I am missing?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Pete Baker]

Tony

As well as the SCSI boot setting make sure the SATA drive you're installing
to is on the SATA0 channel.

With RAID 0 (striped) compared to a non-RAID set-up, although the transfer
mode may be the same, the actual times for data transfer will vary between
set-ups.

Tom's Hardware Guide (as usual) has done a recent comparison and description
of the varying RAID options currently available. Included in this is a
direct comparison between different controllers and the same system with a
single drive (although they didn't use SATA controllers it does provide a
useful comparison).

http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030620/index.html

But you need not be simply trying for speed, a RAID 1 array is a great
back-up addition for your system and data.

Anyway, it's just an idea if you can't boot from the SATA drive - which
hopefully you will.

Pete
-----------------------------


"Tony" > wrote in message
...
> Pete,
>
> (It was a typo... been looking at too many chipsets today)
> I'll try making 1st boot be SCSI and see what happens.
>
> The last time I messed with RAID was with an ABIT KT7 and
> the thing was no faster (in mode 5??... the one where both
> drives are used concurrently for performance) than one
> drive on a standard ATA100 port. Can you get a
> significant performance bump with sata raid?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Tony
> >
> >I'll assume the switch between 865G and 645G is a typo.
> >
> >Here's a suggestion to try anyway -
> >
> >From looking at your mainboard manual I'd set the On-Chip
> SATA to 'Auto' and
> >make sure that the SATA drive with XP installed is placed
> on the Channel
> >relating to SATA0.
> >
> >Unfortunately it looks like your boot device priority is
> restricted to a
> >choice between the following
> >
> >Floppy, LS120, HDD-0~3, SCSI, CDROM, ZIP, USB-FDD and USB-
> ZIP.
> >
> >Some mainboards allow you to select the SCSI option as
> the first boot device
> >to boot from SATA and that's certainly worth trying, but
> with the ICH5
> >controlling the SATA drives (rather than a third party
> controller) I can't
> >guarantee that will work for you.
> >
> >If your mainboard doesn't support 'boot from SATA' I'd
> blame Gigabyte rather
> >than anyone else - they should at least have made that
> limitation clear when
> >advertising the SATA capability.
> >
> >If it doesn't, apart from using up your IDE channel, you
> might be better off
> >purchasing a PCI card-based controller for SATA - they
> will usually allow
> >RAID arrays to be set up too which will give you a slight
> expansion option.
> >
> >Try setting boot device to SCSI anyway, with a careful
> check on where you
> >have the XP drive connected, and post an update.
> >
> >
> >Hope that helps
> >Pete
> >-------------------------
> >
> >"Tony" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hi Pete,
> >>
> >> My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru
> the
> >> BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks like
> it
> >> would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run
> the
> >> XP install from CD, format the drive, load files, etc.
> but
> >> when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
> >> remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating system
> >> found.
> >>
> >> I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they
> said
> >> that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the board
> >> does not support booting from the SATA native. You can
> >> use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't
> think
> >> I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the
> case.
> >>
> >> Does any one out there have a 645G based board booting
> XP
> >> from the SATA in native mode?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Tony
> >> >
> >> >If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
> >> ICH5 chipset then
> >> >you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
> >> procedure.
> >> >
> >> >The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
> >> to a incorrect BIOS
> >> >setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and,
> in
> >> the meantime, let
> >> >us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
> >> install on.
> >> >
> >> >Hope that helps
> >> >Pete
> >> >----------------------
> >> >
> >> >"Tony" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which
> uses
> >> >> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA
> disk to
> >> >> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
> >> >> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
> >> connect
> >> >> my CDRW.
> >> >>
> >> >> However if I configure the SATA port to run native,
> the
> >> >> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
> >> >> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can
> find no
> >> >> such driver on the Intel site.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
> >> >> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
> >> Is
> >> >> there something else I am missing?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Tony]

It is on SATA0, but I'll double check. I have to wait
till I get home to try it. Let you know tomorrow.

Tony

>-----Original Message-----
>Tony
>
>As well as the SCSI boot setting make sure the SATA drive
you're installing
>to is on the SATA0 channel.
>
>With RAID 0 (striped) compared to a non-RAID set-up,
although the transfer
>mode may be the same, the actual times for data transfer
will vary between
>set-ups.
>
>Tom's Hardware Guide (as usual) has done a recent
comparison and description
>of the varying RAID options currently available.
Included in this is a
>direct comparison between different controllers and the
same system with a
>single drive (although they didn't use SATA controllers
it does provide a
>useful comparison).
>
>http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030620/index.html
>
>But you need not be simply trying for speed, a RAID 1
array is a great
>back-up addition for your system and data.
>
>Anyway, it's just an idea if you can't boot from the SATA
drive - which
>hopefully you will.
>
>Pete
>-----------------------------
>
>
>"Tony" > wrote in message
...
>> Pete,
>>
>> (It was a typo... been looking at too many chipsets
today)
>> I'll try making 1st boot be SCSI and see what happens.
>>
>> The last time I messed with RAID was with an ABIT KT7
and
>> the thing was no faster (in mode 5??... the one where
both
>> drives are used concurrently for performance) than one
>> drive on a standard ATA100 port. Can you get a
>> significant performance bump with sata raid?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hi Tony
>> >
>> >I'll assume the switch between 865G and 645G is a typo.
>> >
>> >Here's a suggestion to try anyway -
>> >
>> >From looking at your mainboard manual I'd set the On-
Chip
>> SATA to 'Auto' and
>> >make sure that the SATA drive with XP installed is
placed
>> on the Channel
>> >relating to SATA0.
>> >
>> >Unfortunately it looks like your boot device priority
is
>> restricted to a
>> >choice between the following
>> >
>> >Floppy, LS120, HDD-0~3, SCSI, CDROM, ZIP, USB-FDD and
USB-
>> ZIP.
>> >
>> >Some mainboards allow you to select the SCSI option as
>> the first boot device
>> >to boot from SATA and that's certainly worth trying,
but
>> with the ICH5
>> >controlling the SATA drives (rather than a third party
>> controller) I can't
>> >guarantee that will work for you.
>> >
>> >If your mainboard doesn't support 'boot from SATA' I'd
>> blame Gigabyte rather
>> >than anyone else - they should at least have made that
>> limitation clear when
>> >advertising the SATA capability.
>> >
>> >If it doesn't, apart from using up your IDE channel,
you
>> might be better off
>> >purchasing a PCI card-based controller for SATA - they
>> will usually allow
>> >RAID arrays to be set up too which will give you a
slight
>> expansion option.
>> >
>> >Try setting boot device to SCSI anyway, with a careful
>> check on where you
>> >have the XP drive connected, and post an update.
>> >
>> >
>> >Hope that helps
>> >Pete
>> >-------------------------
>> >
>> >"Tony" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Hi Pete,
>> >>
>> >> My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru
>> the
>> >> BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks
like
>> it
>> >> would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run
>> the
>> >> XP install from CD, format the drive, load files,
etc.
>> but
>> >> when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
>> >> remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating
system
>> >> found.
>> >>
>> >> I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they
>> said
>> >> that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the
board
>> >> does not support booting from the SATA native. You
can
>> >> use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't
>> think
>> >> I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the
>> case.
>> >>
>> >> Does any one out there have a 645G based board
booting
>> XP
>> >> from the SATA in native mode?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Tony
>> >> >
>> >> >If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via
the
>> >> ICH5 chipset then
>> >> >you should not need to specify the drivers using
the F6
>> >> procedure.
>> >> >
>> >> >The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably
due
>> >> to a incorrect BIOS
>> >> >setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly
and,
>> in
>> >> the meantime, let
>> >> >us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting
to
>> >> install on.
>> >> >
>> >> >Hope that helps
>> >> >Pete
>> >> >----------------------
>> >> >
>> >> >"Tony" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo
which
>> uses
>> >> >> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA
>> disk to
>> >> >> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However
this
>> >> >> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
>> >> connect
>> >> >> my CDRW.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However if I configure the SATA port to run
native,
>> the
>> >> >> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has
no
>> >> >> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can
>> find no
>> >> >> such driver on the Intel site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are
ready or
>> >> >> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I
need?
>> >> Is
>> >> >> there something else I am missing?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks in advance
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Frank]

Tony wrote:
| It is on SATA0, but I'll double check. I have to wait
| till I get home to try it. Let you know tomorrow.
|
| Tony
|
|| -----Original Message-----
|| Tony
||
|| As well as the SCSI boot setting make sure the SATA drive you're
|| installing to is on the SATA0 channel.


Install the SATA drive. Then go into BIOS. In BIOS press control
+ F1 This will bring up more settings. Set this up manually because
auto will just map it to IDE0 or 1.
good luck

--
Tampa Bay

[Tony]

Hi Frank,

I don't think my BIOS has that feature. However, the page
where the SATA is setup gives me the option of manually
setting the mode of SATA0. I can choose to emulatate any
of the 4 IDE ports, native SATA0, or native SATA1.

Unfortunately I think it's time to rethink my plans for
sata.

Tony
>-----Original Message-----
>Tony wrote:
>| It is on SATA0, but I'll double check. I have to wait
>| till I get home to try it. Let you know tomorrow.
>|
>| Tony
>|
>|| -----Original Message-----
>|| Tony
>||
>|| As well as the SCSI boot setting make sure the SATA
drive you're
>|| installing to is on the SATA0 channel.
>
>
>Install the SATA drive. Then go into BIOS. In BIOS
press control
>+ F1 This will bring up more settings. Set this up
manually because
>auto will just map it to IDE0 or 1.
>good luck
>
>--
>Tampa Bay
>
>
>.
>

[Tony]

Pete,

No joy. I tried SCSI and nothing. For extra self induced
pain, I tried the other choices as well.

Guess I am going to put an ATA100 drive on IDE0 and use
the SATA as my backup disk. At least this way I have all
4 IDE ports and two SATA.

I was thinking about PCI adaptors but realized that the
PCI bus is only good for 132 mB/sec peak anyway. So I
would not even see the full speed of one drive. No way
would RAID 0 make sense on a 32 bit PCI card.

Thanks,
Tony



>-----Original Message-----
>Tony
>
>As well as the SCSI boot setting make sure the SATA drive
you're installing
>to is on the SATA0 channel.
>
>With RAID 0 (striped) compared to a non-RAID set-up,
although the transfer
>mode may be the same, the actual times for data transfer
will vary between
>set-ups.
>
>Tom's Hardware Guide (as usual) has done a recent
comparison and description
>of the varying RAID options currently available.
Included in this is a
>direct comparison between different controllers and the
same system with a
>single drive (although they didn't use SATA controllers
it does provide a
>useful comparison).
>
>http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030620/index.html
>
>But you need not be simply trying for speed, a RAID 1
array is a great
>back-up addition for your system and data.
>
>Anyway, it's just an idea if you can't boot from the SATA
drive - which
>hopefully you will.
>
>Pete
>-----------------------------
>
>
>"Tony" > wrote in message
...
>> Pete,
>>
>> (It was a typo... been looking at too many chipsets
today)
>> I'll try making 1st boot be SCSI and see what happens.
>>
>> The last time I messed with RAID was with an ABIT KT7
and
>> the thing was no faster (in mode 5??... the one where
both
>> drives are used concurrently for performance) than one
>> drive on a standard ATA100 port. Can you get a
>> significant performance bump with sata raid?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hi Tony
>> >
>> >I'll assume the switch between 865G and 645G is a typo.
>> >
>> >Here's a suggestion to try anyway -
>> >
>> >From looking at your mainboard manual I'd set the On-
Chip
>> SATA to 'Auto' and
>> >make sure that the SATA drive with XP installed is
placed
>> on the Channel
>> >relating to SATA0.
>> >
>> >Unfortunately it looks like your boot device priority
is
>> restricted to a
>> >choice between the following
>> >
>> >Floppy, LS120, HDD-0~3, SCSI, CDROM, ZIP, USB-FDD and
USB-
>> ZIP.
>> >
>> >Some mainboards allow you to select the SCSI option as
>> the first boot device
>> >to boot from SATA and that's certainly worth trying,
but
>> with the ICH5
>> >controlling the SATA drives (rather than a third party
>> controller) I can't
>> >guarantee that will work for you.
>> >
>> >If your mainboard doesn't support 'boot from SATA' I'd
>> blame Gigabyte rather
>> >than anyone else - they should at least have made that
>> limitation clear when
>> >advertising the SATA capability.
>> >
>> >If it doesn't, apart from using up your IDE channel,
you
>> might be better off
>> >purchasing a PCI card-based controller for SATA - they
>> will usually allow
>> >RAID arrays to be set up too which will give you a
slight
>> expansion option.
>> >
>> >Try setting boot device to SCSI anyway, with a careful
>> check on where you
>> >have the XP drive connected, and post an update.
>> >
>> >
>> >Hope that helps
>> >Pete
>> >-------------------------
>> >
>> >"Tony" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Hi Pete,
>> >>
>> >> My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru
>> the
>> >> BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks
like
>> it
>> >> would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run
>> the
>> >> XP install from CD, format the drive, load files,
etc.
>> but
>> >> when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
>> >> remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating
system
>> >> found.
>> >>
>> >> I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they
>> said
>> >> that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the
board
>> >> does not support booting from the SATA native. You
can
>> >> use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't
>> think
>> >> I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the
>> case.
>> >>
>> >> Does any one out there have a 645G based board
booting
>> XP
>> >> from the SATA in native mode?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Tony
>> >> >
>> >> >If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via
the
>> >> ICH5 chipset then
>> >> >you should not need to specify the drivers using
the F6
>> >> procedure.
>> >> >
>> >> >The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably
due
>> >> to a incorrect BIOS
>> >> >setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly
and,
>> in
>> >> the meantime, let
>> >> >us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting
to
>> >> install on.
>> >> >
>> >> >Hope that helps
>> >> >Pete
>> >> >----------------------
>> >> >
>> >> >"Tony" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo
which
>> uses
>> >> >> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA
>> disk to
>> >> >> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However
this
>> >> >> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
>> >> connect
>> >> >> my CDRW.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However if I configure the SATA port to run
native,
>> the
>> >> >> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has
no
>> >> >> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can
>> find no
>> >> >> such driver on the Intel site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are
ready or
>> >> >> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I
need?
>> >> Is
>> >> >> there something else I am missing?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks in advance
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Pete Baker]

Hi Tony

Sorry that didn't work out, but I wouldn't give up yet.

There doesn't seem to be any reason why the boot from SATA isn't available,
Intel's white paper on the IHC5 controller suggests that only the incorrect
programming of the system BIOS would cause any disruption of the process.

Although the latest system BIOS for your mainboard on the Gigabyte website
is still version F6 (mass production release) there is an update already for
the GA-8IG1000.

I would certainly email Gigabyte support explaining the situation and
requesting advice, it may be that they have an update in the pipeline or
they may be able to point out a particular BIOS setting that we've missed.

As for pressing Control and F1 in the BIOS, that appears to be useful in
newer versions of the BIOS to reach the advanced settings. But the only
settings that appear appropriate are those in the 'integrated peripherals'
and the 'boot device priority', as long as you can reach those you should be
able to make any adjustments required.

The only other suggestion that comes to mind is (similar to Frank's
suggestion) to use the manual setting for the On-Chip SATA then SATA port 0,
and SCSI boot.

In the meantime, email Gigabyte support and wait for a reply, hopefully not
for too long.

Good luck and when you get a reply please post an update.
Pete
---------------------------


"Tony" > wrote in message
...
> Pete,
>
> No joy. I tried SCSI and nothing. For extra self induced
> pain, I tried the other choices as well.
>
> Guess I am going to put an ATA100 drive on IDE0 and use
> the SATA as my backup disk. At least this way I have all
> 4 IDE ports and two SATA.
>
> I was thinking about PCI adaptors but realized that the
> PCI bus is only good for 132 mB/sec peak anyway. So I
> would not even see the full speed of one drive. No way
> would RAID 0 make sense on a 32 bit PCI card.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Tony
> >
> >As well as the SCSI boot setting make sure the SATA drive
> you're installing
> >to is on the SATA0 channel.
> >
> >With RAID 0 (striped) compared to a non-RAID set-up,
> although the transfer
> >mode may be the same, the actual times for data transfer
> will vary between
> >set-ups.
> >
> >Tom's Hardware Guide (as usual) has done a recent
> comparison and description
> >of the varying RAID options currently available.
> Included in this is a
> >direct comparison between different controllers and the
> same system with a
> >single drive (although they didn't use SATA controllers
> it does provide a
> >useful comparison).
> >
> >http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030620/index.html
> >
> >But you need not be simply trying for speed, a RAID 1
> array is a great
> >back-up addition for your system and data.
> >
> >Anyway, it's just an idea if you can't boot from the SATA
> drive - which
> >hopefully you will.
> >
> >Pete
> >-----------------------------
> >
> >
> >"Tony" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Pete,
> >>
> >> (It was a typo... been looking at too many chipsets
> today)
> >> I'll try making 1st boot be SCSI and see what happens.
> >>
> >> The last time I messed with RAID was with an ABIT KT7
> and
> >> the thing was no faster (in mode 5??... the one where
> both
> >> drives are used concurrently for performance) than one
> >> drive on a standard ATA100 port. Can you get a
> >> significant performance bump with sata raid?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Hi Tony
> >> >
> >> >I'll assume the switch between 865G and 645G is a typo.
> >> >
> >> >Here's a suggestion to try anyway -
> >> >
> >> >From looking at your mainboard manual I'd set the On-
> Chip
> >> SATA to 'Auto' and
> >> >make sure that the SATA drive with XP installed is
> placed
> >> on the Channel
> >> >relating to SATA0.
> >> >
> >> >Unfortunately it looks like your boot device priority
> is
> >> restricted to a
> >> >choice between the following
> >> >
> >> >Floppy, LS120, HDD-0~3, SCSI, CDROM, ZIP, USB-FDD and
> USB-
> >> ZIP.
> >> >
> >> >Some mainboards allow you to select the SCSI option as
> >> the first boot device
> >> >to boot from SATA and that's certainly worth trying,
> but
> >> with the ICH5
> >> >controlling the SATA drives (rather than a third party
> >> controller) I can't
> >> >guarantee that will work for you.
> >> >
> >> >If your mainboard doesn't support 'boot from SATA' I'd
> >> blame Gigabyte rather
> >> >than anyone else - they should at least have made that
> >> limitation clear when
> >> >advertising the SATA capability.
> >> >
> >> >If it doesn't, apart from using up your IDE channel,
> you
> >> might be better off
> >> >purchasing a PCI card-based controller for SATA - they
> >> will usually allow
> >> >RAID arrays to be set up too which will give you a
> slight
> >> expansion option.
> >> >
> >> >Try setting boot device to SCSI anyway, with a careful
> >> check on where you
> >> >have the XP drive connected, and post an update.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hope that helps
> >> >Pete
> >> >-------------------------
> >> >
> >> >"Tony" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Hi Pete,
> >> >>
> >> >> My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru
> >> the
> >> >> BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks
> like
> >> it
> >> >> would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run
> >> the
> >> >> XP install from CD, format the drive, load files,
> etc.
> >> but
> >> >> when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
> >> >> remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating
> system
> >> >> found.
> >> >>
> >> >> I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they
> >> said
> >> >> that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the
> board
> >> >> does not support booting from the SATA native. You
> can
> >> >> use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't
> >> think
> >> >> I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the
> >> case.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does any one out there have a 645G based board
> booting
> >> XP
> >> >> from the SATA in native mode?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Tony
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Tony
> >> >> >
> >> >> >If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via
> the
> >> >> ICH5 chipset then
> >> >> >you should not need to specify the drivers using
> the F6
> >> >> procedure.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably
> due
> >> >> to a incorrect BIOS
> >> >> >setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly
> and,
> >> in
> >> >> the meantime, let
> >> >> >us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting
> to
> >> >> install on.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hope that helps
> >> >> >Pete
> >> >> >----------------------
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Tony" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo
> which
> >> uses
> >> >> >> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA
> >> disk to
> >> >> >> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However
> this
> >> >> >> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
> >> >> connect
> >> >> >> my CDRW.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> However if I configure the SATA port to run
> native,
> >> the
> >> >> >> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has
> no
> >> >> >> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can
> >> find no
> >> >> >> such driver on the Intel site.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are
> ready or
> >> >> >> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I
> need?
> >> >> Is
> >> >> >> there something else I am missing?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks in advance
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Tony]

Will do.

Thanks for your help!


>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Tony
>
>Sorry that didn't work out, but I wouldn't give up yet.
>
>There doesn't seem to be any reason why the boot from
SATA isn't available,
>Intel's white paper on the IHC5 controller suggests that
only the incorrect
>programming of the system BIOS would cause any disruption
of the process.
>
>Although the latest system BIOS for your mainboard on the
Gigabyte website
>is still version F6 (mass production release) there is an
update already for
>the GA-8IG1000.
>
>I would certainly email Gigabyte support explaining the
situation and
>requesting advice, it may be that they have an update in
the pipeline or
>they may be able to point out a particular BIOS setting
that we've missed.
>
>As for pressing Control and F1 in the BIOS, that appears
to be useful in
>newer versions of the BIOS to reach the advanced
settings. But the only
>settings that appear appropriate are those in
the 'integrated peripherals'
>and the 'boot device priority', as long as you can reach
those you should be
>able to make any adjustments required.
>
>The only other suggestion that comes to mind is (similar
to Frank's
>suggestion) to use the manual setting for the On-Chip
SATA then SATA port 0,
>and SCSI boot.
>
>In the meantime, email Gigabyte support and wait for a
reply, hopefully not
>for too long.
>
>Good luck and when you get a reply please post an update.
>Pete
>---------------------------
>
>
>"Tony" > wrote in message
...
>> Pete,
>>
>> No joy. I tried SCSI and nothing. For extra self
induced
>> pain, I tried the other choices as well.
>>
>> Guess I am going to put an ATA100 drive on IDE0 and use
>> the SATA as my backup disk. At least this way I have
all
>> 4 IDE ports and two SATA.
>>
>> I was thinking about PCI adaptors but realized that the
>> PCI bus is only good for 132 mB/sec peak anyway. So I
>> would not even see the full speed of one drive. No way
>> would RAID 0 make sense on a 32 bit PCI card.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Tony
>> >
>> >As well as the SCSI boot setting make sure the SATA
drive
>> you're installing
>> >to is on the SATA0 channel.
>> >
>> >With RAID 0 (striped) compared to a non-RAID set-up,
>> although the transfer
>> >mode may be the same, the actual times for data
transfer
>> will vary between
>> >set-ups.
>> >
>> >Tom's Hardware Guide (as usual) has done a recent
>> comparison and description
>> >of the varying RAID options currently available.
>> Included in this is a
>> >direct comparison between different controllers and the
>> same system with a
>> >single drive (although they didn't use SATA controllers
>> it does provide a
>> >useful comparison).
>> >
>> >http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030620/index.html
>> >
>> >But you need not be simply trying for speed, a RAID 1
>> array is a great
>> >back-up addition for your system and data.
>> >
>> >Anyway, it's just an idea if you can't boot from the
SATA
>> drive - which
>> >hopefully you will.
>> >
>> >Pete
>> >-----------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >"Tony" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Pete,
>> >>
>> >> (It was a typo... been looking at too many chipsets
>> today)
>> >> I'll try making 1st boot be SCSI and see what
happens.
>> >>
>> >> The last time I messed with RAID was with an ABIT KT7
>> and
>> >> the thing was no faster (in mode 5??... the one where
>> both
>> >> drives are used concurrently for performance) than
one
>> >> drive on a standard ATA100 port. Can you get a
>> >> significant performance bump with sata raid?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Hi Tony
>> >> >
>> >> >I'll assume the switch between 865G and 645G is a
typo.
>> >> >
>> >> >Here's a suggestion to try anyway -
>> >> >
>> >> >From looking at your mainboard manual I'd set the
On-
>> Chip
>> >> SATA to 'Auto' and
>> >> >make sure that the SATA drive with XP installed is
>> placed
>> >> on the Channel
>> >> >relating to SATA0.
>> >> >
>> >> >Unfortunately it looks like your boot device
priority
>> is
>> >> restricted to a
>> >> >choice between the following
>> >> >
>> >> >Floppy, LS120, HDD-0~3, SCSI, CDROM, ZIP, USB-FDD
and
>> USB-
>> >> ZIP.
>> >> >
>> >> >Some mainboards allow you to select the SCSI option
as
>> >> the first boot device
>> >> >to boot from SATA and that's certainly worth trying,
>> but
>> >> with the ICH5
>> >> >controlling the SATA drives (rather than a third
party
>> >> controller) I can't
>> >> >guarantee that will work for you.
>> >> >
>> >> >If your mainboard doesn't support 'boot from SATA'
I'd
>> >> blame Gigabyte rather
>> >> >than anyone else - they should at least have made
that
>> >> limitation clear when
>> >> >advertising the SATA capability.
>> >> >
>> >> >If it doesn't, apart from using up your IDE channel,
>> you
>> >> might be better off
>> >> >purchasing a PCI card-based controller for SATA -
they
>> >> will usually allow
>> >> >RAID arrays to be set up too which will give you a
>> slight
>> >> expansion option.
>> >> >
>> >> >Try setting boot device to SCSI anyway, with a
careful
>> >> check on where you
>> >> >have the XP drive connected, and post an update.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Hope that helps
>> >> >Pete
>> >> >-------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> >"Tony" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> Hi Pete,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been
thru
>> >> the
>> >> >> BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks
>> like
>> >> it
>> >> >> would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can
run
>> >> the
>> >> >> XP install from CD, format the drive, load files,
>> etc.
>> >> but
>> >> >> when I get to the first XP boot, it just says
(cant
>> >> >> remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating
>> system
>> >> >> found.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I called Gigabyte tech support in California and
they
>> >> said
>> >> >> that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the
>> board
>> >> >> does not support booting from the SATA native.
You
>> can
>> >> >> use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I
don't
>> >> think
>> >> >> I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is
the
>> >> case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Does any one out there have a 645G based board
>> booting
>> >> XP
>> >> >> from the SATA in native mode?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Tony
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Tony
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated
via
>> the
>> >> >> ICH5 chipset then
>> >> >> >you should not need to specify the drivers using
>> the F6
>> >> >> procedure.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The failure to identify the SATA drives is
probably
>> due
>> >> >> to a incorrect BIOS
>> >> >> >setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly
>> and,
>> >> in
>> >> >> the meantime, let
>> >> >> >us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're
attempting
>> to
>> >> >> install on.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Hope that helps
>> >> >> >Pete
>> >> >> >----------------------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Tony" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo
>> which
>> >> uses
>> >> >> >> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the
SATA
>> >> disk to
>> >> >> >> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally.
However
>> this
>> >> >> >> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I
plan to
>> >> >> connect
>> >> >> >> my CDRW.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> However if I configure the SATA port to run
>> native,
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte
has
>> no
>> >> >> >> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I
can
>> >> find no
>> >> >> >> such driver on the Intel site.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are
>> ready or
>> >> >> >> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I
>> need?
>> >> >> Is
>> >> >> >> there something else I am missing?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks in advance
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Paul]

I had the same prob with the
ASUS P4P800 mobo which has
2x sata onboard. I think this
mobo supports SATA-RAID, not
IDE raid.

The BIOS picked it up.

As the 3rd master ide.

XP picked it up, and installed the info
for it. However, There was nothing
to see once XP had detected it!
(no icon, so you could format the
sata hdd)!

So, what I had to do, was reinstall
XP on the sata hdd, (keeping the
installation of XP on the original ide
hdd).

That way, the XP setup will see it
(the sata hdd), and you have the
option of formatting it!

And setup, will also give it a letter.

After that, you boot from the ide hdd,
XP picks up the sata hdd, then you
can format it! At the mo, I'm
using the main hdd (80 gb partitioned
into 20gb and 60gb) - (C & D).

The sata hdd is a 120gb (G).

I have no trouble with either D or E
(a DVD and a burner), on the
secondary ide port). They work fine
alongside the sata and the master
primary ide hdd.

"Pete Baker" <petebkrAThotmailDOTcom> wrote in message
...
> Tony
>
> If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the ICH5 chipset then
> you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6 procedure.
>
> The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due to a incorrect
BIOS
> setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in the meantime, let
> us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to install on.
>
> Hope that helps
> Pete
> ----------------------
>
> "Tony" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which uses
> > an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk to
> > emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
> > costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to connect
> > my CDRW.
> >
> > However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
> > WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
> > floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find no
> > such driver on the Intel site.
> >
> > Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
> > what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need? Is
> > there something else I am missing?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
>
>

[Paul]

I did manage to install XP onto a
sata hdd, so it loads XP.

And it kept the ide hdd (master primary)
and the DVD and the burner.

This is on a 865PE P4P800 mobo.

On the BIOS on this the native is for XP
or 2000, or compatible (other 95 etc)
but isnt or wouldnt be as reliable.

"Tony" > wrote in message
...
> oops, I meant 865G in my last post.
>
> Does any one have an 865G based board booting from the
> SATA port natively into XP?
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Pete,
> >
> >My Gigabyte board is the 8IG1000 Pro. I've been thru the
> >BIOS a few times and don't see anything that looks like
> it
> >would apply. If is set SATA0 to be native, I can run the
> >XP install from CD, format the drive, load files, etc.
> but
> >when I get to the first XP boot, it just says (cant
> >remember exactly...) boot failure, no operating system
> >found.
> >
> >I called Gigabyte tech support in California and they
> said
> >that due to a limitation of the 645G chipset, the board
> >does not support booting from the SATA native. You can
> >use the drive from XP but not boot from it. I don't
> think
> >I beleive that. Pretty big screw up if that is the case.
> >
> >Does any one out there have a 645G based board booting XP
> >from the SATA in native mode?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Tony
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>Tony
> >>
> >>If your mainboard has the SATA fully integrated via the
> >ICH5 chipset then
> >>you should not need to specify the drivers using the F6
> >procedure.
> >>
> >>The failure to identify the SATA drives is probably due
> >to a incorrect BIOS
> >>setting. Check your mainboard manual thoroughly and, in
> >the meantime, let
> >>us know which Gigabyte mainboard you're attempting to
> >install on.
> >>
> >>Hope that helps
> >>Pete
> >>----------------------
> >>
> >>"Tony" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> I am installing Windows XP on a Gigabyte mobo which
> uses
> >>> an Intel 865G chipset. I can configure the SATA disk
> to
> >>> emulate IDE 0 and XP installs normally. However this
> >>> costs me the two primary IDE ports where I plan to
> >connect
> >>> my CDRW.
> >>>
> >>> However if I configure the SATA port to run native, the
> >>> WXP install does not see the drive. Gigabyte has no
> >>> floppy based driver to feed in with F6 and I can find
> no
> >>> such driver on the Intel site.
> >>>
> >>> Are the 865G boards shipping before they are ready or
> >>> what? Anyone know where I can get the driver I need?
> >Is
> >>> there something else I am missing?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>
> >>.
> >>
> >.
> >