Changed MOB Issue

[Tim]

I have just changed out my mother board from a intel p4
to a abit is7 p4 and when I boot everything seems fine the
windows xp screen comes up with the green bar and it
starts loading then screen flashes black and it reboots. I
have tried safe mode and last know good config all the
same. How do I fix this? I have swapped out hardware
before ie mob's and no issues it comes up fines new
hardware and reboot and all good. This time though I have
this issue. I do not want to format and start from scratch.

Thanks

[Pete Baker]

Tim

XP configures itself to suit the hardware when it is installed.
A major change in hardware results in the kind of boot failure you have
experienced.

**** If you have a XP installation CD ****

Any important files should always be backed up in advance of hardware
changes.

Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full clean install after major
hardware changes as you describe.

The alternative, and equally valid option, is the repair install (also known
as an In-Place Upgrade).

See following Knowledge Base article for details. Pay careful attention to
the possible loss of data links in the MS article.

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

After doing this you may need to re-activate your installation of XP. If it
has been more than 120 days since you last re-activated you should be able
to activate over the internet, otherwise it will require a short phonecall.

After the repair install you will need to re-install any XP service packs
and updates, but you will not need to re-install any applications.

Hope that helps
Pete
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"Tim" <edit> wrote in message ...
>
>
> I have just changed out my mother board from a intel p4
> to a abit is7 p4 and when I boot everything seems fine the
> windows xp screen comes up with the green bar and it
> starts loading then screen flashes black and it reboots. I
> have tried safe mode and last know good config all the
> same. How do I fix this? I have swapped out hardware
> before ie mob's and no issues it comes up fines new
> hardware and reboot and all good. This time though I have
> this issue. I do not want to format and start from scratch.
>
> Thanks

[R. C. White]

Hi, Tim.

> I have swapped out hardware
> before ie mob's and no issues it comes up fines new
> hardware and reboot and all good.

Were those previous system running on the NT platform? WinNT/2K/XP? The
old DOS/Win9x/ME systems were much less particular about hardware than the
NT versions. That's one reason that WinXP is more secure and dependable,
once you get it installed properly.

When WinXP Setup runs, it first detects the hardware configuration of your
individual computer and customizes YOUR copy of WinXP to fit that. When
there is a major change in your hardware - and the mobo/CPU/chipset/IDE
controller combination certainly qualifies as major! - then WinXP needs to
run again to recustomize YOUR copy of WinXP to fit the new configuration.

You need to follow Microsoft's instructions and do an "in-place upgrade",
also known as a repair reinstallation. This will run Setup again and let it
redetect your hardware and pick different device drivers and other
components from the arsenal on the CD-ROM and install them. As MS says,
this is not intended as a time-saver for updating WinXP itself; you'll need
to visit Windows Update as soon as you get back online to be sure you have
all the SPs and fixes. But, it should preserve all or most of your
installed applications and all of your data. In less than half a day, you
should be up and running again.

Several posters have reported success in some cases where the new mobo was
very similar to the old, but usually the in-place upgrade is what it takes
for a solid system after the swap.

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q315341

If you find a dependable shortcut, please let us all know.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP

"Tim" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> I have just changed out my mother board from a intel p4
> to a abit is7 p4 and when I boot everything seems fine the
> windows xp screen comes up with the green bar and it
> starts loading then screen flashes black and it reboots. I
> have tried safe mode and last know good config all the
> same. How do I fix this? I have swapped out hardware
> before ie mob's and no issues it comes up fines new
> hardware and reboot and all good. This time though I have
> this issue. I do not want to format and start from scratch.
>
> Thanks

[billy b]

I followed the directions to repair from the XP CD. It
looked like it did a fresh install over the old file
structure. But same blue screen flash to auto reboot.

How come this didn't work? XP Home OEM?

How can I retreive my old settings and Outlook Express
files off the old OS drive? I get a permissions error
when browsing the slaved drives Documents and
Settings/User folder.

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi, Tim.
>
>> I have swapped out hardware
>> before ie mob's and no issues it comes up fines new
>> hardware and reboot and all good.
>
>Were those previous system running on the NT platform?
WinNT/2K/XP? The
>old DOS/Win9x/ME systems were much less particular about
hardware than the
>NT versions. That's one reason that WinXP is more secure
and dependable,
>once you get it installed properly.
>
>When WinXP Setup runs, it first detects the hardware
configuration of your
>individual computer and customizes YOUR copy of WinXP to
fit that. When
>there is a major change in your hardware - and the
mobo/CPU/chipset/IDE
>controller combination certainly qualifies as major! -
then WinXP needs to
>run again to recustomize YOUR copy of WinXP to fit the
new configuration.
>
>You need to follow Microsoft's instructions and do an "in-
place upgrade",
>also known as a repair reinstallation. This will run
Setup again and let it
>redetect your hardware and pick different device drivers
and other
>components from the arsenal on the CD-ROM and install
them. As MS says,
>this is not intended as a time-saver for updating WinXP
itself; you'll need
>to visit Windows Update as soon as you get back online to
be sure you have
>all the SPs and fixes. But, it should preserve all or
most of your
>installed applications and all of your data. In less
than half a day, you
>should be up and running again.
>
>Several posters have reported success in some cases where
the new mobo was
>very similar to the old, but usually the in-place upgrade
is what it takes
>for a solid system after the swap.
>
>How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of
Windows XP
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-
us;q315341
>
>If you find a dependable shortcut, please let us all know.
>
>RC
>--
>R. C. White, CPA
>San Marcos, TX

>Microsoft Windows MVP
>
>"Tim" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> I have just changed out my mother board from a intel p4
>> to a abit is7 p4 and when I boot everything seems fine
the
>> windows xp screen comes up with the green bar and it
>> starts loading then screen flashes black and it
reboots. I
>> have tried safe mode and last know good config all the
>> same. How do I fix this? I have swapped out hardware
>> before ie mob's and no issues it comes up fines new
>> hardware and reboot and all good. This time though I
have
>> this issue. I do not want to format and start from
scratch.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
>.
>

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Unless the new motherboard is virtually identical to the old one
(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.), you'll
need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at
the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also require re-activation. If it's been more than 120
days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.


Bruce Chambers

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"Tim" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> I have just changed out my mother board from a intel p4
> to a abit is7 p4 and when I boot everything seems fine the
> windows xp screen comes up with the green bar and it
> starts loading then screen flashes black and it reboots. I
> have tried safe mode and last know good config all the
> same. How do I fix this? I have swapped out hardware
> before ie mob's and no issues it comes up fines new
> hardware and reboot and all good. This time though I have
> this issue. I do not want to format and start from scratch.
>
> Thanks

[R. C. White]

Hi, Billy.

> How come this didn't work? XP Home OEM?

How come WHAT didn't work? You've posted into the middle of a thread about
a changed motherboard. DID you change your motherboard? If not, you
probably would get a more suitable answer if you start a new conversation
with a new Subject line.

OEM versions of Windows normally come pre-installed, either on a name-brand
computer (such as Dell, Gateway or HP) or on one that has been assembled by
a local computer dealer. OEM versions may be customized by the OEM and they
vary a lot from one vendor to another. That's why each OEM must provide the
support for its specific OEM version, relieving Microsoft of this
obligation. So, KB articles that apply to the retail versions of Windows
may not apply to a specific OEM version.

Also, pre-installed OEM versions of Windows are usually locked to that
specific computer. You can't uninstall OEM WinXP from that computer and
install it on a different set of hardware. The motherboard is the central
component of a computer, so replacing the motherboard is just about like
moving WinXP to a different computer. You probably can't do it with an OEM
version of WinXP.

> I followed the directions to repair from the XP CD. It
> looked like it did a fresh install over the old file
> structure.

Which "directions"? Were you following KB article 315341 for an in-place
upgrade? That's what I recommended to Tim, because he had replaced his
motherboard, and he gave no indication that his was an OEM version of
Windows. Those directions may or may not apply to you. The "fresh install
over the old file structure" is what we would expect from an "in-place"
upgrade - at least, on a retail version of WinXP.

> But same blue screen flash to auto reboot.

A simple reboot fixes so many problems in Windows that WinXP comes set to do
that automatically. That is usually best for Newbies, but it does not help
in troubleshooting problems. You can change this setting by going to System
Properties | Advanced | Startup and Recovery Settings. Under System
failure, uncheck the box before Automatically restart. Next time, instead
of rebooting, your computer should halt with the BSOD (Blue Screen of Death)
full of cryptic codes. Before you press the Reset button, copy those
codes - verbatim - and include them in your next post; somebody here should
be able to point you in the right direction.

> How can I retreive my old settings and Outlook Express
> files off the old OS drive?

For OE files, install the old drive as secondary and boot to WinXP on your
new drive. Use Disk Management to be sure your old drive is recognized
properly, and see which "drive" letters are assigned to which volumes (and
reassign them, if you like). Then search the old drive for *.dbx files and
note the complete path to those files. Start OE and click File | Import to
get the messages and settings from that old folder.

> I get a permissions error
> when browsing the slaved drives Documents and
> Settings/User folder.


Sorry, I know nothing of permissions. Others here can answer that question
for you.

In your next post, be sure to include the make and model of your computer as
it came from the OEM, plus the make and model of your new mobo, if you have
one. Without that information, we're just guessing at what might help you.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP

"billy b" > wrote in message
...
> I followed the directions to repair from the XP CD. It
> looked like it did a fresh install over the old file
> structure. But same blue screen flash to auto reboot.
>
> How come this didn't work? XP Home OEM?
>
> How can I retreive my old settings and Outlook Express
> files off the old OS drive? I get a permissions error
> when browsing the slaved drives Documents and
> Settings/User folder.
>
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