Disabled Messenger - now OE is slow as molasses!!

[Ron Hinds]

I followed the steps oulined here to disable Messenger:

To Prevent Windows Messenger from Running on a Windows XP-Based Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302089&Product=WinMsgr

I'm using XP Pro SP1 and Outlook Express 6 SP1. OE used to load almost
instantly, but since I disabled Messenger it now takes at least 20x as long
to load! Is there now a setting for OE I need to change? This is
ridiculous - it's like Microsoft id *forcing* you to use Messenger! It
wasn't necessary for OE to work before - why is it now?

Second question: Is this MSN Messenger? I've seen Windows Messenger and MSN
Messenger described as though they were two different things here. BTW I
wanted to disable Messenger because a friend who has XP and didn't do so
constantly receives SPAM popup messages from it. What gives here?

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Ron,

This is why is method isn't recommended. However, you can solve this problem by closing
Outlook Express, then downloading and running this .reg file:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg

There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for
display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger
supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which one you use is up
to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and likes), however one
thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
Windows XP in order for MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance,
Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).

MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN Mobile,
etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies (Exchange Server,
Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).

Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET Messenger service,
..NET Passport and .NET Alerts.

What your friend is probably receiving is messages from the "Messenger Service" which has
*NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger. To get rid of those pop ups,
you'll need to disable the "Messenger Service", click Start, then Run, enter
"services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to "Messenger", select it, right-click and then
choose Properties. Under startup type, choose 'Disabled' and then choose the 'Stop' button.
After the service is stopped, click OK. Nothing in Windows or any real third-party
applications should be effected by this.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
...
>I followed the steps oulined here to disable Messenger:
>
> To Prevent Windows Messenger from Running on a Windows XP-Based Computer
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302089&Product=WinMsgr
>
> I'm using XP Pro SP1 and Outlook Express 6 SP1. OE used to load almost
> instantly, but since I disabled Messenger it now takes at least 20x as long
> to load! Is there now a setting for OE I need to change? This is
> ridiculous - it's like Microsoft id *forcing* you to use Messenger! It
> wasn't necessary for OE to work before - why is it now?
>
> Second question: Is this MSN Messenger? I've seen Windows Messenger and MSN
> Messenger described as though they were two different things here. BTW I
> wanted to disable Messenger because a friend who has XP and didn't do so
> constantly receives SPAM popup messages from it. What gives here?
>
>

[Ron Hinds]

Thanks Jonathan for replying so quickly! I will give it a try this evening
(my home PC is the one with the problem).

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings Ron,
>
> This is why is method isn't recommended. However, you can solve this
problem by closing
> Outlook Express, then downloading and running this .reg file:
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
>
> There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger
6 has support for
> display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
whereas Windows Messenger
> supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
Which one you use is up
> to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
likes), however one
> thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
> Windows XP in order for MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote
Assistance,
> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
>
> MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
Profiles, MSN Mobile,
> etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies
(Exchange Server,
> Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
>
> Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET
Messenger service,
> .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
>
> What your friend is probably receiving is messages from the "Messenger
Service" which has
> *NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger. To get rid of
those pop ups,
> you'll need to disable the "Messenger Service", click Start, then Run,
enter
> "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to "Messenger", select it,
right-click and then
> choose Properties. Under startup type, choose 'Disabled' and then choose
the 'Stop' button.
> After the service is stopped, click OK. Nothing in Windows or any real
third-party
> applications should be effected by this.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I followed the steps oulined here to disable Messenger:
> >
> > To Prevent Windows Messenger from Running on a Windows XP-Based Computer
> >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302089&Product=WinMsgr
> >
> > I'm using XP Pro SP1 and Outlook Express 6 SP1. OE used to load almost
> > instantly, but since I disabled Messenger it now takes at least 20x as
long
> > to load! Is there now a setting for OE I need to change? This is
> > ridiculous - it's like Microsoft id *forcing* you to use Messenger! It
> > wasn't necessary for OE to work before - why is it now?
> >
> > Second question: Is this MSN Messenger? I've seen Windows Messenger and
MSN
> > Messenger described as though they were two different things here. BTW I
> > wanted to disable Messenger because a friend who has XP and didn't do so
> > constantly receives SPAM popup messages from it. What gives here?
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Ron,

Let us know =)
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Jonathan for replying so quickly! I will give it a try this evening
> (my home PC is the one with the problem).
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Greetings Ron,
>>
>> This is why is method isn't recommended. However, you can solve this
> problem by closing
>> Outlook Express, then downloading and running this .reg file:
>> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
>>
>> There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger
> 6 has support for
>> display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
> whereas Windows Messenger
>> supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
> Which one you use is up
>> to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
> likes), however one
>> thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
>> Windows XP in order for MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote
> Assistance,
>> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
>>
>> MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
> Profiles, MSN Mobile,
>> etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies
> (Exchange Server,
>> Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
>>
>> Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET
> Messenger service,
>> .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
>>
>> What your friend is probably receiving is messages from the "Messenger
> Service" which has
>> *NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger. To get rid of
> those pop ups,
>> you'll need to disable the "Messenger Service", click Start, then Run,
> enter
>> "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to "Messenger", select it,
> right-click and then
>> choose Properties. Under startup type, choose 'Disabled' and then choose
> the 'Stop' button.
>> After the service is stopped, click OK. Nothing in Windows or any real
> third-party
>> applications should be effected by this.
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>> "Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I followed the steps oulined here to disable Messenger:
>> >
>> > To Prevent Windows Messenger from Running on a Windows XP-Based Computer
>> >
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302089&Product=WinMsgr
>> >
>> > I'm using XP Pro SP1 and Outlook Express 6 SP1. OE used to load almost
>> > instantly, but since I disabled Messenger it now takes at least 20x as
> long
>> > to load! Is there now a setting for OE I need to change? This is
>> > ridiculous - it's like Microsoft id *forcing* you to use Messenger! It
>> > wasn't necessary for OE to work before - why is it now?
>> >
>> > Second question: Is this MSN Messenger? I've seen Windows Messenger and
> MSN
>> > Messenger described as though they were two different things here. BTW I
>> > wanted to disable Messenger because a friend who has XP and didn't do so
>> > constantly receives SPAM popup messages from it. What gives here?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

[Ron Hinds]

Jonathan - it worked! Thanks again!

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Ron,
>
> Let us know =)
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks Jonathan for replying so quickly! I will give it a try this
evening
> > (my home PC is the one with the problem).
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Greetings Ron,
> >>
> >> This is why is method isn't recommended. However, you can solve this
> > problem by closing
> >> Outlook Express, then downloading and running this .reg file:
> >> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
> >>
> >> There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN
Messenger
> > 6 has support for
> >> display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
> > whereas Windows Messenger
> >> supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
> > Which one you use is up
> >> to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
> > likes), however one
> >> thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
> >> Windows XP in order for MSN Messenger to retain full functionality
(Remote
> > Assistance,
> >> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
> >>
> >> MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
> > Profiles, MSN Mobile,
> >> etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies
> > (Exchange Server,
> >> Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
> >>
> >> Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the
..NET
> > Messenger service,
> >> .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
> >>
> >> What your friend is probably receiving is messages from the "Messenger
> > Service" which has
> >> *NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger. To get rid of
> > those pop ups,
> >> you'll need to disable the "Messenger Service", click Start, then Run,
> > enter
> >> "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to "Messenger", select it,
> > right-click and then
> >> choose Properties. Under startup type, choose 'Disabled' and then
choose
> > the 'Stop' button.
> >> After the service is stopped, click OK. Nothing in Windows or any real
> > third-party
> >> applications should be effected by this.
> >> ____________________________________________
> >> Jonathan Kay
> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> >> Associate Expert
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >>
> >> "Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >I followed the steps oulined here to disable Messenger:
> >> >
> >> > To Prevent Windows Messenger from Running on a Windows XP-Based
Computer
> >> >
> >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302089&Product=WinMsgr
> >> >
> >> > I'm using XP Pro SP1 and Outlook Express 6 SP1. OE used to load
almost
> >> > instantly, but since I disabled Messenger it now takes at least 20x
as
> > long
> >> > to load! Is there now a setting for OE I need to change? This is
> >> > ridiculous - it's like Microsoft id *forcing* you to use Messenger!
It
> >> > wasn't necessary for OE to work before - why is it now?
> >> >
> >> > Second question: Is this MSN Messenger? I've seen Windows Messenger
and
> > MSN
> >> > Messenger described as though they were two different things here.
BTW I
> >> > wanted to disable Messenger because a friend who has XP and didn't do
so
> >> > constantly receives SPAM popup messages from it. What gives here?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Ron,

Glad to hear it =)
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
...
> Jonathan - it worked! Thanks again!
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> Let us know =)
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>> "Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Thanks Jonathan for replying so quickly! I will give it a try this
> evening
>> > (my home PC is the one with the problem).
>> >
>> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Greetings Ron,
>> >>
>> >> This is why is method isn't recommended. However, you can solve this
>> > problem by closing
>> >> Outlook Express, then downloading and running this .reg file:
>> >> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
>> >>
>> >> There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN
> Messenger
>> > 6 has support for
>> >> display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
>> > whereas Windows Messenger
>> >> supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
>> > Which one you use is up
>> >> to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
>> > likes), however one
>> >> thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
>> >> Windows XP in order for MSN Messenger to retain full functionality
> (Remote
>> > Assistance,
>> >> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
>> >>
>> >> MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
>> > Profiles, MSN Mobile,
>> >> etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies
>> > (Exchange Server,
>> >> Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
>> >>
>> >> Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the
> .NET
>> > Messenger service,
>> >> .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
>> >>
>> >> What your friend is probably receiving is messages from the "Messenger
>> > Service" which has
>> >> *NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger. To get rid of
>> > those pop ups,
>> >> you'll need to disable the "Messenger Service", click Start, then Run,
>> > enter
>> >> "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to "Messenger", select it,
>> > right-click and then
>> >> choose Properties. Under startup type, choose 'Disabled' and then
> choose
>> > the 'Stop' button.
>> >> After the service is stopped, click OK. Nothing in Windows or any real
>> > third-party
>> >> applications should be effected by this.
>> >> ____________________________________________
>> >> Jonathan Kay
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >>
>> >> "Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >I followed the steps oulined here to disable Messenger:
>> >> >
>> >> > To Prevent Windows Messenger from Running on a Windows XP-Based
> Computer
>> >> >
>> >
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302089&Product=WinMsgr
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm using XP Pro SP1 and Outlook Express 6 SP1. OE used to load
> almost
>> >> > instantly, but since I disabled Messenger it now takes at least 20x
> as
>> > long
>> >> > to load! Is there now a setting for OE I need to change? This is
>> >> > ridiculous - it's like Microsoft id *forcing* you to use Messenger!
> It
>> >> > wasn't necessary for OE to work before - why is it now?
>> >> >
>> >> > Second question: Is this MSN Messenger? I've seen Windows Messenger
> and
>> > MSN
>> >> > Messenger described as though they were two different things here.
> BTW I
>> >> > wanted to disable Messenger because a friend who has XP and didn't do
> so
>> >> > constantly receives SPAM popup messages from it. What gives here?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>