After upgrading CPU, can't boot or reinstall WinXP

[Kent]

I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD 1800+ to a
2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading windows
splash screen. Same when doing a fresh install of WinXP.
I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU because I
have WinME and Linux running now. I think WinXP won't
load because of the hardware upgrade and I was wondering
if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for this?

Thanks in advance,
Kent

[Pete Baker]

Kent

During the initial installation XP configures itself to suit the hardware in
order to provide a more stable system. Because of this a major change in
hardware can cause problems.

**** If you have a XP installation CD ****

You should always back up any important files in advance of a hardware
change.

Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full clean install after major
hardware changes as you describe.

The alternative, and equally valid option, is the repair install (also known
as an In-Place Upgrade).

See following Knowledge Base article for details. Pay careful attention to
the possible loss of data links in the MS article.

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

After doing this you may need to re-activate your installation of XP. If it
has been more than 120 days since you last re-activated you should be able
to activate over the internet, otherwise it will require a short phonecall.

After the repair install you will need to re-install any XP service packs
and updates, but you will not need to re-install any applications.

Hope that helps
Pete
--------------------

"Kent" wrote
> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD 1800+ to a
> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading windows
> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh install of WinXP.
> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU because I
> have WinME and Linux running now. I think WinXP won't
> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was wondering
> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Kent

[Kent]

Thanks Pete!
I have gotten XP to upgrade WinME before. But I even
tryed a new WD 60gig HD and couldn't get XP to install.
It would go all the way to point where it boots into
windows for the first time and then hang at the splash
screen. But it wouldn't be locked up, the HD would still
run about every 10-15 seconds to make you think it was
still installing. :( I'll back up my data in WinME and
try upgrading it. I bought WinXP pro (full) from the
trade school i attended last year. Got it in Dec 02 and
activated it right away. I'll probably have to make the
call to M.S.

Thanks again,
Kent
>-----Original Message-----
>Kent
>
>During the initial installation XP configures itself to
suit the hardware in
>order to provide a more stable system. Because of this
a major change in
>hardware can cause problems.
>
>**** If you have a XP installation CD ****
>
>You should always back up any important files in advance
of a hardware
>change.
>
>Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full clean
install after major
>hardware changes as you describe.
>
>The alternative, and equally valid option, is the repair
install (also known
>as an In-Place Upgrade).
>
>See following Knowledge Base article for details. Pay
careful attention to
>the possible loss of data links in the MS article.
>
>How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of
Windows XP
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
>
>After doing this you may need to re-activate your
installation of XP. If it
>has been more than 120 days since you last re-activated
you should be able
>to activate over the internet, otherwise it will require
a short phonecall.
>
>After the repair install you will need to re-install any
XP service packs
>and updates, but you will not need to re-install any
applications.
>
>Hope that helps
>Pete
>--------------------
>
>"Kent" wrote
>> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD 1800+ to a
>> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading windows
>> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh install of
WinXP.
>> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU because I
>> have WinME and Linux running now. I think WinXP won't
>> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was
wondering
>> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Kent
>
>
>.
>

[Pete Baker]

Kent

I was under the impression that you still had XP on the HD but couldn't boot
into it. The Repair install would have worked at that point, had you been
able to try it on that XP installation - method 2 in the link, booting from
the XP CD.

Personally I would *not* do the In-Place Upgrade from ME to XP. You'd be
much better off clearing that partition and doing a clean installation of
XP - after backing up the data.

As for the attempt on the WD 60gig drive... possibly a cable problem?

But, you shouldn't need to make any phone-call if the last time you
activated was back in Dec 02.

Post an update when you can.

Pete
---------------------

"Kent" wrote
> Thanks Pete!
> I have gotten XP to upgrade WinME before. But I even
> tryed a new WD 60gig HD and couldn't get XP to install.
> It would go all the way to point where it boots into
> windows for the first time and then hang at the splash
> screen. But it wouldn't be locked up, the HD would still
> run about every 10-15 seconds to make you think it was
> still installing. :( I'll back up my data in WinME and
> try upgrading it. I bought WinXP pro (full) from the
> trade school i attended last year. Got it in Dec 02 and
> activated it right away. I'll probably have to make the
> call to M.S.
>
> Thanks again,
> Kent
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Kent
> >
> >During the initial installation XP configures itself to
> suit the hardware in
> >order to provide a more stable system. Because of this
> a major change in
> >hardware can cause problems.
> >
> >**** If you have a XP installation CD ****
> >
> >You should always back up any important files in advance
> of a hardware
> >change.
> >
> >Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full clean
> install after major
> >hardware changes as you describe.
> >
> >The alternative, and equally valid option, is the repair
> install (also known
> >as an In-Place Upgrade).
> >
> >See following Knowledge Base article for details. Pay
> careful attention to
> >the possible loss of data links in the MS article.
> >
> >How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of
> Windows XP
> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
> US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
> >
> >After doing this you may need to re-activate your
> installation of XP. If it
> >has been more than 120 days since you last re-activated
> you should be able
> >to activate over the internet, otherwise it will require
> a short phonecall.
> >
> >After the repair install you will need to re-install any
> XP service packs
> >and updates, but you will not need to re-install any
> applications.
> >
> >Hope that helps
> >Pete
> >--------------------
> >
> >"Kent" wrote
> >> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD 1800+ to a
> >> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading windows
> >> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh install of
> WinXP.
> >> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU because I
> >> have WinME and Linux running now. I think WinXP won't
> >> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was
> wondering
> >> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for this?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Kent
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Pete Baker]

Kent

My apologies for not reading your original post correctly, you did specify
that you were having problems with a clean installation of XP.

After a little more research, it seems that the Asus website recommends BIOS
version 1017 to correctly identify all version of the AMD 2400+. It may be
that is the cause of the problem so check your current BIOS and update if
necessary.

Hope that helps
Pete
-----------------------

"Pete Baker" wrote
> Kent
>
> I was under the impression that you still had XP on the HD but couldn't
boot
> into it. The Repair install would have worked at that point, had you
been
> able to try it on that XP installation - method 2 in the link, booting
from
> the XP CD.
>
> Personally I would *not* do the In-Place Upgrade from ME to XP. You'd be
> much better off clearing that partition and doing a clean installation of
> XP - after backing up the data.
>
> As for the attempt on the WD 60gig drive... possibly a cable problem?
>
> But, you shouldn't need to make any phone-call if the last time you
> activated was back in Dec 02.
>
> Post an update when you can.
>
> Pete
> ---------------------
>
> "Kent" wrote
> > Thanks Pete!
> > I have gotten XP to upgrade WinME before. But I even
> > tryed a new WD 60gig HD and couldn't get XP to install.
> > It would go all the way to point where it boots into
> > windows for the first time and then hang at the splash
> > screen. But it wouldn't be locked up, the HD would still
> > run about every 10-15 seconds to make you think it was
> > still installing. :( I'll back up my data in WinME and
> > try upgrading it. I bought WinXP pro (full) from the
> > trade school i attended last year. Got it in Dec 02 and
> > activated it right away. I'll probably have to make the
> > call to M.S.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Kent
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Kent
> > >
> > >During the initial installation XP configures itself to
> > suit the hardware in
> > >order to provide a more stable system. Because of this
> > a major change in
> > >hardware can cause problems.
> > >
> > >**** If you have a XP installation CD ****
> > >
> > >You should always back up any important files in advance
> > of a hardware
> > >change.
> > >
> > >Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full clean
> > install after major
> > >hardware changes as you describe.
> > >
> > >The alternative, and equally valid option, is the repair
> > install (also known
> > >as an In-Place Upgrade).
> > >
> > >See following Knowledge Base article for details. Pay
> > careful attention to
> > >the possible loss of data links in the MS article.
> > >
> > >How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of
> > Windows XP
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
> > US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
> > >
> > >After doing this you may need to re-activate your
> > installation of XP. If it
> > >has been more than 120 days since you last re-activated
> > you should be able
> > >to activate over the internet, otherwise it will require
> > a short phonecall.
> > >
> > >After the repair install you will need to re-install any
> > XP service packs
> > >and updates, but you will not need to re-install any
> > applications.
> > >
> > >Hope that helps
> > >Pete
> > >--------------------
> > >
> > >"Kent" wrote
> > >> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD 1800+ to a
> > >> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading windows
> > >> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh install of
> > WinXP.
> > >> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU because I
> > >> have WinME and Linux running now. I think WinXP won't
> > >> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was
> > wondering
> > >> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for this?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance,
> > >> Kent
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

[Kent]

Thanks! I'll try that. My mobo came with BIOS 1006 and
i've flashed it to 1016, It runs ok with winME and Linux
but it's got problems with WinXP. My 2400+ CPU came
unlocked so I can change the multiplier in the BIOS.
Don't think that would make any difference though. WinXP
doesn't like my sound blaster live value card so I take
it out during installation and XP doesn't like my Geforce
4400 either. but i can't help that. Don't have a spare to
put in. I would rather do a clean install of XP and I may
give it a try soon. Well i'm off to Asus's site to read
about their bios updates.

thanks,
Kent
>-----Original Message-----
>Kent
>
>My apologies for not reading your original post
correctly, you did specify
>that you were having problems with a clean installation
of XP.
>
>After a little more research, it seems that the Asus
website recommends BIOS
>version 1017 to correctly identify all version of the
AMD 2400+. It may be
>that is the cause of the problem so check your current
BIOS and update if
>necessary.
>
>Hope that helps
>Pete
>-----------------------
>
>"Pete Baker" wrote
>> Kent
>>
>> I was under the impression that you still had XP on
the HD but couldn't
>boot
>> into it. The Repair install would have worked at
that point, had you
>been
>> able to try it on that XP installation - method 2 in
the link, booting
>from
>> the XP CD.
>>
>> Personally I would *not* do the In-Place Upgrade from
ME to XP. You'd be
>> much better off clearing that partition and doing a
clean installation of
>> XP - after backing up the data.
>>
>> As for the attempt on the WD 60gig drive... possibly a
cable problem?
>>
>> But, you shouldn't need to make any phone-call if the
last time you
>> activated was back in Dec 02.
>>
>> Post an update when you can.
>>
>> Pete
>> ---------------------
>>
>> "Kent" wrote
>> > Thanks Pete!
>> > I have gotten XP to upgrade WinME before. But I
even
>> > tryed a new WD 60gig HD and couldn't get XP to
install.
>> > It would go all the way to point where it boots into
>> > windows for the first time and then hang at the
splash
>> > screen. But it wouldn't be locked up, the HD would
still
>> > run about every 10-15 seconds to make you think it
was
>> > still installing. :( I'll back up my data in WinME
and
>> > try upgrading it. I bought WinXP pro (full) from the
>> > trade school i attended last year. Got it in Dec 02
and
>> > activated it right away. I'll probably have to make
the
>> > call to M.S.
>> >
>> > Thanks again,
>> > Kent
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >Kent
>> > >
>> > >During the initial installation XP configures
itself to
>> > suit the hardware in
>> > >order to provide a more stable system. Because of
this
>> > a major change in
>> > >hardware can cause problems.
>> > >
>> > >**** If you have a XP installation CD ****
>> > >
>> > >You should always back up any important files in
advance
>> > of a hardware
>> > >change.
>> > >
>> > >Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full
clean
>> > install after major
>> > >hardware changes as you describe.
>> > >
>> > >The alternative, and equally valid option, is the
repair
>> > install (also known
>> > >as an In-Place Upgrade).
>> > >
>> > >See following Knowledge Base article for details.
Pay
>> > careful attention to
>> > >the possible loss of data links in the MS article.
>> > >
>> > >How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation)
of
>> > Windows XP
>> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=KB;EN-
>> > US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
>> > >
>> > >After doing this you may need to re-activate your
>> > installation of XP. If it
>> > >has been more than 120 days since you last re-
activated
>> > you should be able
>> > >to activate over the internet, otherwise it will
require
>> > a short phonecall.
>> > >
>> > >After the repair install you will need to re-
install any
>> > XP service packs
>> > >and updates, but you will not need to re-install any
>> > applications.
>> > >
>> > >Hope that helps
>> > >Pete
>> > >--------------------
>> > >
>> > >"Kent" wrote
>> > >> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD 1800+
to a
>> > >> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading
windows
>> > >> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh install of
>> > WinXP.
>> > >> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU
because I
>> > >> have WinME and Linux running now. I think WinXP
won't
>> > >> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was
>> > wondering
>> > >> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for
this?
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks in advance,
>> > >> Kent
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >.
>> > >
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Kent]

I just got back from the Asus site and the way I see it
my motherboard is a PCB 1.01 and doesn't support the
333mhz FSB CPU's. I can run my ram at 333 but not the
CPU. The higher BIOS updates are for the newer 333 FSB
CPU's. I've noticed in my BIOS that it shows I can turn
the CPU speed up to 333 but Asus doesn't seem to show
that it will work with my older version motherboard . :(
But i'll try it anyway to see if it will help with the XP
install when I have time to bak up all my junk.
Thanks,
Kent


>-----Original Message-----
>Thanks! I'll try that. My mobo came with BIOS 1006 and
>i've flashed it to 1016, It runs ok with winME and Linux
>but it's got problems with WinXP. My 2400+ CPU came
>unlocked so I can change the multiplier in the BIOS.
>Don't think that would make any difference though. WinXP
>doesn't like my sound blaster live value card so I take
>it out during installation and XP doesn't like my
Geforce
>4400 either. but i can't help that. Don't have a spare
to
>put in. I would rather do a clean install of XP and I
may
>give it a try soon. Well i'm off to Asus's site to read
>about their bios updates.
>
>thanks,
>Kent
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Kent
>>
>>My apologies for not reading your original post
>correctly, you did specify
>>that you were having problems with a clean installation
>of XP.
>>
>>After a little more research, it seems that the Asus
>website recommends BIOS
>>version 1017 to correctly identify all version of the
>AMD 2400+. It may be
>>that is the cause of the problem so check your current
>BIOS and update if
>>necessary.
>>
>>Hope that helps
>>Pete
>>-----------------------
>>
>>"Pete Baker" wrote
>>> Kent
>>>
>>> I was under the impression that you still had XP on
>the HD but couldn't
>>boot
>>> into it. The Repair install would have worked at
>that point, had you
>>been
>>> able to try it on that XP installation - method 2 in
>the link, booting
>>from
>>> the XP CD.
>>>
>>> Personally I would *not* do the In-Place Upgrade from
>ME to XP. You'd be
>>> much better off clearing that partition and doing a
>clean installation of
>>> XP - after backing up the data.
>>>
>>> As for the attempt on the WD 60gig drive... possibly
a
>cable problem?
>>>
>>> But, you shouldn't need to make any phone-call if the
>last time you
>>> activated was back in Dec 02.
>>>
>>> Post an update when you can.
>>>
>>> Pete
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> "Kent" wrote
>>> > Thanks Pete!
>>> > I have gotten XP to upgrade WinME before. But I
>even
>>> > tryed a new WD 60gig HD and couldn't get XP to
>install.
>>> > It would go all the way to point where it boots into
>>> > windows for the first time and then hang at the
>splash
>>> > screen. But it wouldn't be locked up, the HD would
>still
>>> > run about every 10-15 seconds to make you think it
>was
>>> > still installing. :( I'll back up my data in WinME
>and
>>> > try upgrading it. I bought WinXP pro (full) from the
>>> > trade school i attended last year. Got it in Dec 02
>and
>>> > activated it right away. I'll probably have to make
>the
>>> > call to M.S.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks again,
>>> > Kent
>>> > >-----Original Message-----
>>> > >Kent
>>> > >
>>> > >During the initial installation XP configures
>itself to
>>> > suit the hardware in
>>> > >order to provide a more stable system. Because of
>this
>>> > a major change in
>>> > >hardware can cause problems.
>>> > >
>>> > >**** If you have a XP installation CD ****
>>> > >
>>> > >You should always back up any important files in
>advance
>>> > of a hardware
>>> > >change.
>>> > >
>>> > >Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full
>clean
>>> > install after major
>>> > >hardware changes as you describe.
>>> > >
>>> > >The alternative, and equally valid option, is the
>repair
>>> > install (also known
>>> > >as an In-Place Upgrade).
>>> > >
>>> > >See following Knowledge Base article for details.
>Pay
>>> > careful attention to
>>> > >the possible loss of data links in the MS article.
>>> > >
>>> > >How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade
(Reinstallation)
>of
>>> > Windows XP
>>> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
>scid=KB;EN-
>>> > US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
>>> > >
>>> > >After doing this you may need to re-activate your
>>> > installation of XP. If it
>>> > >has been more than 120 days since you last re-
>activated
>>> > you should be able
>>> > >to activate over the internet, otherwise it will
>require
>>> > a short phonecall.
>>> > >
>>> > >After the repair install you will need to re-
>install any
>>> > XP service packs
>>> > >and updates, but you will not need to re-install
any
>>> > applications.
>>> > >
>>> > >Hope that helps
>>> > >Pete
>>> > >--------------------
>>> > >
>>> > >"Kent" wrote
>>> > >> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD
1800+
>to a
>>> > >> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading
>windows
>>> > >> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh install of
>>> > WinXP.
>>> > >> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU
>because I
>>> > >> have WinME and Linux running now. I think WinXP
>won't
>>> > >> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was
>>> > wondering
>>> > >> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for
>this?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks in advance,
>>> > >> Kent
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >.
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Pete Baker]

Hi Kent

My apologies again for the initial misreading of your post.

As I understand your current hardware, you have the 2400+ Model 10 (333Mhz)
on a A7V333 PCB 1.01?

Although the CPU Support page does reference the PCB 2.00 with this CPU
model along with BIOS 1017, there isn't a restriction referenced on the
actual BIOS download page.

Before updating the BIOS to 1017 I think you'd be best advised to contact
Asus and request assistance from them. Specifically whether you need the
BIOS update with your CPU (give them full details of model and rating) and
if it will conflict with the PCB version you have with a XP installation.
They're really the only people who can answer that question and if it's
going to cause a problem then you need to know in advance.

In the meantime it may be worth trying to set the CPU FSB speed in the BIOS
to 333Mhz and then attempt to install XP - assuming that your CPU is 333Mhz.
My understanding of the way XP loads specific drivers during installation
means that, although the resulting system is more stable than most OS, this
process makes XP less tolerant of hardware mismatches for this step which
may explain the initial problem.

BTW Don't overclock anything (RAM etc) if you can avoid it during the
installation.

Post an update when you can.
Hope that helps
Pete
----------------------------------

"Kent" wrote
> I just got back from the Asus site and the way I see it
> my motherboard is a PCB 1.01 and doesn't support the
> 333mhz FSB CPU's. I can run my ram at 333 but not the
> CPU. The higher BIOS updates are for the newer 333 FSB
> CPU's. I've noticed in my BIOS that it shows I can turn
> the CPU speed up to 333 but Asus doesn't seem to show
> that it will work with my older version motherboard . :(
> But i'll try it anyway to see if it will help with the XP
> install when I have time to bak up all my junk.
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Thanks! I'll try that. My mobo came with BIOS 1006 and
> >i've flashed it to 1016, It runs ok with winME and Linux
> >but it's got problems with WinXP. My 2400+ CPU came
> >unlocked so I can change the multiplier in the BIOS.
> >Don't think that would make any difference though. WinXP
> >doesn't like my sound blaster live value card so I take
> >it out during installation and XP doesn't like my
> Geforce
> >4400 either. but i can't help that. Don't have a spare
> to
> >put in. I would rather do a clean install of XP and I
> may
> >give it a try soon. Well i'm off to Asus's site to read
> >about their bios updates.
> >
> >thanks,
> >Kent
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>Kent
> >>
> >>My apologies for not reading your original post
> >correctly, you did specify
> >>that you were having problems with a clean installation
> >of XP.
> >>
> >>After a little more research, it seems that the Asus
> >website recommends BIOS
> >>version 1017 to correctly identify all version of the
> >AMD 2400+. It may be
> >>that is the cause of the problem so check your current
> >BIOS and update if
> >>necessary.
> >>
> >>Hope that helps
> >>Pete
> >>-----------------------
> >>
> >>"Pete Baker" wrote
> >>> Kent
> >>>
> >>> I was under the impression that you still had XP on
> >the HD but couldn't
> >>boot
> >>> into it. The Repair install would have worked at
> >that point, had you
> >>been
> >>> able to try it on that XP installation - method 2 in
> >the link, booting
> >>from
> >>> the XP CD.
> >>>
> >>> Personally I would *not* do the In-Place Upgrade from
> >ME to XP. You'd be
> >>> much better off clearing that partition and doing a
> >clean installation of
> >>> XP - after backing up the data.
> >>>
> >>> As for the attempt on the WD 60gig drive... possibly
> a
> >cable problem?
> >>>
> >>> But, you shouldn't need to make any phone-call if the
> >last time you
> >>> activated was back in Dec 02.
> >>>
> >>> Post an update when you can.
> >>>
> >>> Pete
> >>> ---------------------
> >>>
> >>> "Kent" wrote
> >>> > Thanks Pete!
> >>> > I have gotten XP to upgrade WinME before. But I
> >even
> >>> > tryed a new WD 60gig HD and couldn't get XP to
> >install.
> >>> > It would go all the way to point where it boots into
> >>> > windows for the first time and then hang at the
> >splash
> >>> > screen. But it wouldn't be locked up, the HD would
> >still
> >>> > run about every 10-15 seconds to make you think it
> >was
> >>> > still installing. :( I'll back up my data in WinME
> >and
> >>> > try upgrading it. I bought WinXP pro (full) from the
> >>> > trade school i attended last year. Got it in Dec 02
> >and
> >>> > activated it right away. I'll probably have to make
> >the
> >>> > call to M.S.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks again,
> >>> > Kent
> >>> > >-----Original Message-----
> >>> > >Kent
> >>> > >
> >>> > >During the initial installation XP configures
> >itself to
> >>> > suit the hardware in
> >>> > >order to provide a more stable system. Because of
> >this
> >>> > a major change in
> >>> > >hardware can cause problems.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >**** If you have a XP installation CD ****
> >>> > >
> >>> > >You should always back up any important files in
> >advance
> >>> > of a hardware
> >>> > >change.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full
> >clean
> >>> > install after major
> >>> > >hardware changes as you describe.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >The alternative, and equally valid option, is the
> >repair
> >>> > install (also known
> >>> > >as an In-Place Upgrade).
> >>> > >
> >>> > >See following Knowledge Base article for details.
> >Pay
> >>> > careful attention to
> >>> > >the possible loss of data links in the MS article.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade
> (Reinstallation)
> >of
> >>> > Windows XP
> >>> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
> >scid=KB;EN-
> >>> > US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
> >>> > >
> >>> > >After doing this you may need to re-activate your
> >>> > installation of XP. If it
> >>> > >has been more than 120 days since you last re-
> >activated
> >>> > you should be able
> >>> > >to activate over the internet, otherwise it will
> >require
> >>> > a short phonecall.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >After the repair install you will need to re-
> >install any
> >>> > XP service packs
> >>> > >and updates, but you will not need to re-install
> any
> >>> > applications.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Hope that helps
> >>> > >Pete
> >>> > >--------------------
> >>> > >
> >>> > >"Kent" wrote
> >>> > >> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD
> 1800+
> >to a
> >>> > >> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading
> >windows
> >>> > >> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh install of
> >>> > WinXP.
> >>> > >> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU
> >because I
> >>> > >> have WinME and Linux running now. I think WinXP
> >won't
> >>> > >> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was
> >>> > wondering
> >>> > >> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for
> >this?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thanks in advance,
> >>> > >> Kent
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >.
> >>> > >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>.
> >>
> >.
> >

[Kent]

I believe I have a 266mhz 2400+ I think the 2500+ is the
first of the 333 CPU's. My ram is suppose to run at
333mhz and I use PC2700 but it's a little unstable at 333
and the increase in speed isn't that much so I run the
ram at 266. When installing WinXP, it stops at the last
splash screen before entering windows and has shown a
stop error (xx007 or something like that)I think it's a
hardware compatibility error. But the only hardware I
would be using is my mobo and Geforce 4 video card. I
think there is a microprocessor driver that may be
telling XP the oringinal CPU isn't installed and it
thinks i'm trying to install to a different computer. But
I don't know how it could do that on a fresh install to a
new hardrive too. My supervisor said that he's had a
similar problem and Microsoft had to walk him through a
reinstall on an upgraded computer. I wish their knowledge
base had some info on that.

Kent
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Kent
>
>My apologies again for the initial misreading of your
post.
>
>As I understand your current hardware, you have the
2400+ Model 10 (333Mhz)
>on a A7V333 PCB 1.01?
>
>Although the CPU Support page does reference the PCB
2.00 with this CPU
>model along with BIOS 1017, there isn't a restriction
referenced on the
>actual BIOS download page.
>
>Before updating the BIOS to 1017 I think you'd be best
advised to contact
>Asus and request assistance from them. Specifically
whether you need the
>BIOS update with your CPU (give them full details of
model and rating) and
>if it will conflict with the PCB version you have with a
XP installation.
>They're really the only people who can answer that
question and if it's
>going to cause a problem then you need to know in
advance.
>
>In the meantime it may be worth trying to set the CPU
FSB speed in the BIOS
>to 333Mhz and then attempt to install XP - assuming that
your CPU is 333Mhz.
>My understanding of the way XP loads specific drivers
during installation
>means that, although the resulting system is more stable
than most OS, this
>process makes XP less tolerant of hardware mismatches
for this step which
>may explain the initial problem.
>
>BTW Don't overclock anything (RAM etc) if you can avoid
it during the
>installation.
>
>Post an update when you can.
>Hope that helps
>Pete
>----------------------------------
>
>"Kent" wrote
>> I just got back from the Asus site and the way I see it
>> my motherboard is a PCB 1.01 and doesn't support the
>> 333mhz FSB CPU's. I can run my ram at 333 but not the
>> CPU. The higher BIOS updates are for the newer 333 FSB
>> CPU's. I've noticed in my BIOS that it shows I can turn
>> the CPU speed up to 333 but Asus doesn't seem to show
>> that it will work with my older version motherboard . :
(
>> But i'll try it anyway to see if it will help with the
XP
>> install when I have time to bak up all my junk.
>> Thanks,
>> Kent
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Thanks! I'll try that. My mobo came with BIOS 1006
and
>> >i've flashed it to 1016, It runs ok with winME and
Linux
>> >but it's got problems with WinXP. My 2400+ CPU came
>> >unlocked so I can change the multiplier in the BIOS.
>> >Don't think that would make any difference though.
WinXP
>> >doesn't like my sound blaster live value card so I
take
>> >it out during installation and XP doesn't like my
>> Geforce
>> >4400 either. but i can't help that. Don't have a spare
>> to
>> >put in. I would rather do a clean install of XP and I
>> may
>> >give it a try soon. Well i'm off to Asus's site to
read
>> >about their bios updates.
>> >
>> >thanks,
>> >Kent
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>Kent
>> >>
>> >>My apologies for not reading your original post
>> >correctly, you did specify
>> >>that you were having problems with a clean
installation
>> >of XP.
>> >>
>> >>After a little more research, it seems that the Asus
>> >website recommends BIOS
>> >>version 1017 to correctly identify all version of the
>> >AMD 2400+. It may be
>> >>that is the cause of the problem so check your
current
>> >BIOS and update if
>> >>necessary.
>> >>
>> >>Hope that helps
>> >>Pete
>> >>-----------------------
>> >>
>> >>"Pete Baker" wrote
>> >>> Kent
>> >>>
>> >>> I was under the impression that you still had XP on
>> >the HD but couldn't
>> >>boot
>> >>> into it. The Repair install would have worked at
>> >that point, had you
>> >>been
>> >>> able to try it on that XP installation - method 2
in
>> >the link, booting
>> >>from
>> >>> the XP CD.
>> >>>
>> >>> Personally I would *not* do the In-Place Upgrade
from
>> >ME to XP. You'd be
>> >>> much better off clearing that partition and doing a
>> >clean installation of
>> >>> XP - after backing up the data.
>> >>>
>> >>> As for the attempt on the WD 60gig drive...
possibly
>> a
>> >cable problem?
>> >>>
>> >>> But, you shouldn't need to make any phone-call if
the
>> >last time you
>> >>> activated was back in Dec 02.
>> >>>
>> >>> Post an update when you can.
>> >>>
>> >>> Pete
>> >>> ---------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> "Kent" wrote
>> >>> > Thanks Pete!
>> >>> > I have gotten XP to upgrade WinME before. But
I
>> >even
>> >>> > tryed a new WD 60gig HD and couldn't get XP to
>> >install.
>> >>> > It would go all the way to point where it boots
into
>> >>> > windows for the first time and then hang at the
>> >splash
>> >>> > screen. But it wouldn't be locked up, the HD
would
>> >still
>> >>> > run about every 10-15 seconds to make you think
it
>> >was
>> >>> > still installing. :( I'll back up my data in
WinME
>> >and
>> >>> > try upgrading it. I bought WinXP pro (full) from
the
>> >>> > trade school i attended last year. Got it in Dec
02
>> >and
>> >>> > activated it right away. I'll probably have to
make
>> >the
>> >>> > call to M.S.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks again,
>> >>> > Kent
>> >>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> >>> > >Kent
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >During the initial installation XP configures
>> >itself to
>> >>> > suit the hardware in
>> >>> > >order to provide a more stable system. Because
of
>> >this
>> >>> > a major change in
>> >>> > >hardware can cause problems.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >**** If you have a XP installation CD ****
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >You should always back up any important files in
>> >advance
>> >>> > of a hardware
>> >>> > >change.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full
>> >clean
>> >>> > install after major
>> >>> > >hardware changes as you describe.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >The alternative, and equally valid option, is
the
>> >repair
>> >>> > install (also known
>> >>> > >as an In-Place Upgrade).
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >See following Knowledge Base article for
details.
>> >Pay
>> >>> > careful attention to
>> >>> > >the possible loss of data links in the MS
article.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade
>> (Reinstallation)
>> >of
>> >>> > Windows XP
>> >>> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
>> >scid=KB;EN-
>> >>> > US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >After doing this you may need to re-activate
your
>> >>> > installation of XP. If it
>> >>> > >has been more than 120 days since you last re-
>> >activated
>> >>> > you should be able
>> >>> > >to activate over the internet, otherwise it will
>> >require
>> >>> > a short phonecall.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >After the repair install you will need to re-
>> >install any
>> >>> > XP service packs
>> >>> > >and updates, but you will not need to re-install
>> any
>> >>> > applications.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >Hope that helps
>> >>> > >Pete
>> >>> > >--------------------
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >"Kent" wrote
>> >>> > >> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD
>> 1800+
>> >to a
>> >>> > >> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading
>> >windows
>> >>> > >> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh
install of
>> >>> > WinXP.
>> >>> > >> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU
>> >because I
>> >>> > >> have WinME and Linux running now. I think
WinXP
>> >won't
>> >>> > >> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was
>> >>> > wondering
>> >>> > >> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for
>> >this?
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Thanks in advance,
>> >>> > >> Kent
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >.
>> >>> > >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>.
>> >>
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Pete Baker]

Hi Kent

The instability when the RAM is set at 333 MHz suggests a timing problem
that a BIOS update may be able to fix. If you haven't already, send an
email off to Asus support detailing your current problem and specifying your
hardware (make and models) - mainboard, RAM, CPU and hard-drive should cover
it.

As for the "reinstall on an upgraded computer" I believe that is the repair
install procedure detailed in the MS Knowledge Base article I linked in my
original reply.

That procedure should replace all drivers required by an upgrade in the same
way that a new installation would, but is not always successful.

Apart from waiting for a reply from Asus, the next step when a repair
install fails is to perform a full clean installation. I'm not sure if this
was as complete as necessary when you attempted it before. You will need to
delete, recreate and reformat the partition you wish to install XP on.

Details on this procedure can be found here -
313348 - How to: partition and format a hard disk in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;313348

Scroll down to the section headed -
How to Partition and Format Your Hard Disk by Using Windows XP Setup

and then install as normal.

Post an update when you can.

Hope that helps
Pete
------------------------

"Kent" wrote
> I believe I have a 266mhz 2400+ I think the 2500+ is the
> first of the 333 CPU's. My ram is suppose to run at
> 333mhz and I use PC2700 but it's a little unstable at 333
> and the increase in speed isn't that much so I run the
> ram at 266. When installing WinXP, it stops at the last
> splash screen before entering windows and has shown a
> stop error (xx007 or something like that)I think it's a
> hardware compatibility error. But the only hardware I
> would be using is my mobo and Geforce 4 video card. I
> think there is a microprocessor driver that may be
> telling XP the oringinal CPU isn't installed and it
> thinks i'm trying to install to a different computer. But
> I don't know how it could do that on a fresh install to a
> new hardrive too. My supervisor said that he's had a
> similar problem and Microsoft had to walk him through a
> reinstall on an upgraded computer. I wish their knowledge
> base had some info on that.
>
> Kent
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Kent
> >
> >My apologies again for the initial misreading of your
> post.
> >
> >As I understand your current hardware, you have the
> 2400+ Model 10 (333Mhz)
> >on a A7V333 PCB 1.01?
> >
> >Although the CPU Support page does reference the PCB
> 2.00 with this CPU
> >model along with BIOS 1017, there isn't a restriction
> referenced on the
> >actual BIOS download page.
> >
> >Before updating the BIOS to 1017 I think you'd be best
> advised to contact
> >Asus and request assistance from them. Specifically
> whether you need the
> >BIOS update with your CPU (give them full details of
> model and rating) and
> >if it will conflict with the PCB version you have with a
> XP installation.
> >They're really the only people who can answer that
> question and if it's
> >going to cause a problem then you need to know in
> advance.
> >
> >In the meantime it may be worth trying to set the CPU
> FSB speed in the BIOS
> >to 333Mhz and then attempt to install XP - assuming that
> your CPU is 333Mhz.
> >My understanding of the way XP loads specific drivers
> during installation
> >means that, although the resulting system is more stable
> than most OS, this
> >process makes XP less tolerant of hardware mismatches
> for this step which
> >may explain the initial problem.
> >
> >BTW Don't overclock anything (RAM etc) if you can avoid
> it during the
> >installation.
> >
> >Post an update when you can.
> >Hope that helps
> >Pete
> >----------------------------------
> >
> >"Kent" wrote
> >> I just got back from the Asus site and the way I see it
> >> my motherboard is a PCB 1.01 and doesn't support the
> >> 333mhz FSB CPU's. I can run my ram at 333 but not the
> >> CPU. The higher BIOS updates are for the newer 333 FSB
> >> CPU's. I've noticed in my BIOS that it shows I can turn
> >> the CPU speed up to 333 but Asus doesn't seem to show
> >> that it will work with my older version motherboard . :
> (
> >> But i'll try it anyway to see if it will help with the
> XP
> >> install when I have time to bak up all my junk.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kent
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Thanks! I'll try that. My mobo came with BIOS 1006
> and
> >> >i've flashed it to 1016, It runs ok with winME and
> Linux
> >> >but it's got problems with WinXP. My 2400+ CPU came
> >> >unlocked so I can change the multiplier in the BIOS.
> >> >Don't think that would make any difference though.
> WinXP
> >> >doesn't like my sound blaster live value card so I
> take
> >> >it out during installation and XP doesn't like my
> >> Geforce
> >> >4400 either. but i can't help that. Don't have a spare
> >> to
> >> >put in. I would rather do a clean install of XP and I
> >> may
> >> >give it a try soon. Well i'm off to Asus's site to
> read
> >> >about their bios updates.
> >> >
> >> >thanks,
> >> >Kent
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>Kent
> >> >>
> >> >>My apologies for not reading your original post
> >> >correctly, you did specify
> >> >>that you were having problems with a clean
> installation
> >> >of XP.
> >> >>
> >> >>After a little more research, it seems that the Asus
> >> >website recommends BIOS
> >> >>version 1017 to correctly identify all version of the
> >> >AMD 2400+. It may be
> >> >>that is the cause of the problem so check your
> current
> >> >BIOS and update if
> >> >>necessary.
> >> >>
> >> >>Hope that helps
> >> >>Pete
> >> >>-----------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>"Pete Baker" wrote
> >> >>> Kent
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I was under the impression that you still had XP on
> >> >the HD but couldn't
> >> >>boot
> >> >>> into it. The Repair install would have worked at
> >> >that point, had you
> >> >>been
> >> >>> able to try it on that XP installation - method 2
> in
> >> >the link, booting
> >> >>from
> >> >>> the XP CD.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Personally I would *not* do the In-Place Upgrade
> from
> >> >ME to XP. You'd be
> >> >>> much better off clearing that partition and doing a
> >> >clean installation of
> >> >>> XP - after backing up the data.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> As for the attempt on the WD 60gig drive...
> possibly
> >> a
> >> >cable problem?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> But, you shouldn't need to make any phone-call if
> the
> >> >last time you
> >> >>> activated was back in Dec 02.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Post an update when you can.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Pete
> >> >>> ---------------------
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Kent" wrote
> >> >>> > Thanks Pete!
> >> >>> > I have gotten XP to upgrade WinME before. But
> I
> >> >even
> >> >>> > tryed a new WD 60gig HD and couldn't get XP to
> >> >install.
> >> >>> > It would go all the way to point where it boots
> into
> >> >>> > windows for the first time and then hang at the
> >> >splash
> >> >>> > screen. But it wouldn't be locked up, the HD
> would
> >> >still
> >> >>> > run about every 10-15 seconds to make you think
> it
> >> >was
> >> >>> > still installing. :( I'll back up my data in
> WinME
> >> >and
> >> >>> > try upgrading it. I bought WinXP pro (full) from
> the
> >> >>> > trade school i attended last year. Got it in Dec
> 02
> >> >and
> >> >>> > activated it right away. I'll probably have to
> make
> >> >the
> >> >>> > call to M.S.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Thanks again,
> >> >>> > Kent
> >> >>> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> >>> > >Kent
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >During the initial installation XP configures
> >> >itself to
> >> >>> > suit the hardware in
> >> >>> > >order to provide a more stable system. Because
> of
> >> >this
> >> >>> > a major change in
> >> >>> > >hardware can cause problems.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >**** If you have a XP installation CD ****
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >You should always back up any important files in
> >> >advance
> >> >>> > of a hardware
> >> >>> > >change.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >Many users, myself included, prefer to do a full
> >> >clean
> >> >>> > install after major
> >> >>> > >hardware changes as you describe.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >The alternative, and equally valid option, is
> the
> >> >repair
> >> >>> > install (also known
> >> >>> > >as an In-Place Upgrade).
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >See following Knowledge Base article for
> details.
> >> >Pay
> >> >>> > careful attention to
> >> >>> > >the possible loss of data links in the MS
> article.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade
> >> (Reinstallation)
> >> >of
> >> >>> > Windows XP
> >> >>> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
> >> >scid=KB;EN-
> >> >>> > US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >After doing this you may need to re-activate
> your
> >> >>> > installation of XP. If it
> >> >>> > >has been more than 120 days since you last re-
> >> >activated
> >> >>> > you should be able
> >> >>> > >to activate over the internet, otherwise it will
> >> >require
> >> >>> > a short phonecall.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >After the repair install you will need to re-
> >> >install any
> >> >>> > XP service packs
> >> >>> > >and updates, but you will not need to re-install
> >> any
> >> >>> > applications.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >Hope that helps
> >> >>> > >Pete
> >> >>> > >--------------------
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >"Kent" wrote
> >> >>> > >> I have WinXP pro and when I upgraded my AMD
> >> 1800+
> >> >to a
> >> >>> > >> 2400+ WinXP would not boot past the loading
> >> >windows
> >> >>> > >> splash screen. Same when doing a fresh
> install of
> >> >>> > WinXP.
> >> >>> > >> I know the AsusA7V333 mobo reconizes the CPU
> >> >because I
> >> >>> > >> have WinME and Linux running now. I think
> WinXP
> >> >won't
> >> >>> > >> load because of the hardware upgrade and I was
> >> >>> > wondering
> >> >>> > >> if anyone knew how to fix or a work around for
> >> >this?
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> Thanks in advance,
> >> >>> > >> Kent
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>.
> >> >>
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >