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Thomas
June 2nd 04, 06:53 PM
im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
norton free in order to install. any ideas?

~Thomas~

kurttrail
June 2nd 04, 08:13 PM
Thomas wrote:

> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
> norton free in order to install. any ideas?

You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!

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NoNoBadDog!
June 2nd 04, 09:42 PM
There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems. This
does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.

As a side note to you, kurttrail...

I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
can't. No one can. The variables are too great.

Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the right
to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...


Bobby

"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
> Thomas wrote:
>
>> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
>> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
>> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
>> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
>> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
>> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
>> norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>
> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

Joh N.
June 2nd 04, 09:43 PM
NoNoBadDog!, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

> There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
> or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
> any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems. This
> does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.

Hey, dillrod, there's just as likely tens of thousands who have stopped using
the **** *because* it's just that...****. I know at least 50 of them.
Prove your statement "The majority of users have no problems" you ****ing
idiot.
To the OP...don't take anything nonoboy says to be worth anything more than
anything anyone else might say, after all he's still just another faceless
'something' sitting at another computer somewhere.

>
> As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
> I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
> machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
> can't. No one can. The variables are too great.

****ing idiot. Pretty pathetic try at a strawman.

>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
> don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the right
> to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...

You mean just because tens of thousands have just as likely had "issues" with
Norton products, and yes...it gives the perfect right to say it (Norton
products) are ****. How about *you* learn to "stick to the facts" yourself, you
hypocritical asshole.

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kurttrail
June 3rd 04, 02:19 AM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no
> issues or problems.

And how many millions have dumped Norton/Symantec products over the years?

> Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything
> meaningful.

"Norton Sucks!" is a rant?

> As with any software, there are times when some users
> will encounter problems.

Symantec's problems are only second to MS's.

> This does not make it bad software.

ROFL!

> The
> majority of users have no problems.

As long as they don't run Symancrap.

>
> As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
> I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on
> every machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success
> rate. You can't. No one can. The variables are too great.

Especially subscription-based copy-protected software that is such a
resource hog like Symancrap.

>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you
> just don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give
> you the right to tell everyone else that it is bad software.

Gives me more right to say, "Norton Sucks!" than if I never had a problem
with their products.

> Stick
> to the facts...

Why? Did you present any *FACTS*? Sounded like opinion to me, or is it a
*FACT* that Symancrap doesn't suck?

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CS
June 3rd 04, 02:22 AM
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:52:02 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> wrote:

Send that challenge to Symantec, not Kurt. He's right, anything that
says "Norton 2004" is damaged goods. Wake up bad dog and read the
newsgroups about all the problems that people are having with Symantec
products produced for "2004".

You own Symantec stock? Sell!

>There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
>or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
>any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems. This
>does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.
>
>As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
>I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
>machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
>can't. No one can. The variables are too great.
>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
>don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the right
>to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
>
>
>Bobby
>
>"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
>> Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
>>> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
>>> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
>>> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
>>> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
>>> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
>>> norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>>
>> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>
>>
>

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kurttrail
June 3rd 04, 05:16 AM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no
> issues or problems.

And how many millions have dumped Norton/Symantec products over the years?

> Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything
> meaningful.

"Norton Sucks!" is a rant?

> As with any software, there are times when some users
> will encounter problems.

Symantec's problems are only second to MS's.

> This does not make it bad software.

ROFL!

> The
> majority of users have no problems.

As long as they don't run Symancrap.

>
> As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
> I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on
> every machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success
> rate. You can't. No one can. The variables are too great.

Especially subscription-based copy-protected software that is such a
resource hog like Symancrap.

>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you
> just don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give
> you the right to tell everyone else that it is bad software.

Gives me more right to say, "Norton Sucks!" than if I never had a problem
with their products.

> Stick
> to the facts...

Why? Did you present any *FACTS*? Sounded like opinion to me, or is it a
*FACT* that Symancrap doesn't suck?

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CS
June 3rd 04, 05:16 AM
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:52:02 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> wrote:

Send that challenge to Symantec, not Kurt. He's right, anything that
says "Norton 2004" is damaged goods. Wake up bad dog and read the
newsgroups about all the problems that people are having with Symantec
products produced for "2004".

You own Symantec stock? Sell!

>There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
>or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
>any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems. This
>does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.
>
>As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
>I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
>machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
>can't. No one can. The variables are too great.
>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
>don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the right
>to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
>
>
>Bobby
>
>"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
>> Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
>>> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
>>> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
>>> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
>>> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
>>> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
>>> norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>>
>> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>
>>
>

kurttrail
June 3rd 04, 05:25 AM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no
> issues or problems.

And how many millions have dumped Norton/Symantec products over the years?

> Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything
> meaningful.

"Norton Sucks!" is a rant?

> As with any software, there are times when some users
> will encounter problems.

Symantec's problems are only second to MS's.

> This does not make it bad software.

ROFL!

> The
> majority of users have no problems.

As long as they don't run Symancrap.

>
> As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
> I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on
> every machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success
> rate. You can't. No one can. The variables are too great.

Especially subscription-based copy-protected software that is such a
resource hog like Symancrap.

>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you
> just don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give
> you the right to tell everyone else that it is bad software.

Gives me more right to say, "Norton Sucks!" than if I never had a problem
with their products.

> Stick
> to the facts...

Why? Did you present any *FACTS*? Sounded like opinion to me, or is it a
*FACT* that Symancrap doesn't suck?

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CS
June 3rd 04, 05:25 AM
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:52:02 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> wrote:

Send that challenge to Symantec, not Kurt. He's right, anything that
says "Norton 2004" is damaged goods. Wake up bad dog and read the
newsgroups about all the problems that people are having with Symantec
products produced for "2004".

You own Symantec stock? Sell!

>There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
>or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
>any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems. This
>does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.
>
>As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
>I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
>machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
>can't. No one can. The variables are too great.
>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
>don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the right
>to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
>
>
>Bobby
>
>"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
>> Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
>>> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
>>> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
>>> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
>>> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
>>> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
>>> norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>>
>> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>
>>
>

NoNoBadDog!
June 3rd 04, 05:33 AM
Once again the failed logic of "one only has to read these newsgroups...".
People post here when they have a problem not when they DONT have a
problem...that is why you see "so many".

Bobby

"CS" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:52:02 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> > wrote:
>
> Send that challenge to Symantec, not Kurt. He's right, anything that
> says "Norton 2004" is damaged goods. Wake up bad dog and read the
> newsgroups about all the problems that people are having with Symantec
> products produced for "2004".
>
> You own Symantec stock? Sell!
>
>>There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
>>or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
>>any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems.
>>This
>>does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.
>>
>>As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>>
>>I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
>>machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
>>can't. No one can. The variables are too great.
>>
>> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
>>don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the
>>right
>>to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
>>
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>>> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
>>>> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
>>>> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
>>>> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
>>>> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
>>>> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
>>>> norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>>>
>>> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace!
>>> Kurt
>>> Self-anointed Moderator
>>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>>> http://microscum.com
>>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>>
>>>
>>
>

NoNoBadDog!
June 3rd 04, 05:47 AM
Once again the failed logic of "one only has to read these newsgroups...".
People post here when they have a problem not when they DONT have a
problem...that is why you see "so many".

Bobby

"CS" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:52:02 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> > wrote:
>
> Send that challenge to Symantec, not Kurt. He's right, anything that
> says "Norton 2004" is damaged goods. Wake up bad dog and read the
> newsgroups about all the problems that people are having with Symantec
> products produced for "2004".
>
> You own Symantec stock? Sell!
>
>>There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
>>or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
>>any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems.
>>This
>>does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.
>>
>>As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>>
>>I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
>>machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
>>can't. No one can. The variables are too great.
>>
>> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
>>don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the
>>right
>>to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
>>
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>>> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
>>>> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
>>>> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
>>>> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
>>>> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
>>>> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
>>>> norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>>>
>>> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace!
>>> Kurt
>>> Self-anointed Moderator
>>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>>> http://microscum.com
>>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>>
>>>
>>
>

kurttrail
June 3rd 04, 06:27 AM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no
> issues or problems.

And how many millions have dumped Norton/Symantec products over the years?

> Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything
> meaningful.

"Norton Sucks!" is a rant?

> As with any software, there are times when some users
> will encounter problems.

Symantec's problems are only second to MS's.

> This does not make it bad software.

ROFL!

> The
> majority of users have no problems.

As long as they don't run Symancrap.

>
> As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
> I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on
> every machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success
> rate. You can't. No one can. The variables are too great.

Especially subscription-based copy-protected software that is such a
resource hog like Symancrap.

>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you
> just don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give
> you the right to tell everyone else that it is bad software.

Gives me more right to say, "Norton Sucks!" than if I never had a problem
with their products.

> Stick
> to the facts...

Why? Did you present any *FACTS*? Sounded like opinion to me, or is it a
*FACT* that Symancrap doesn't suck?

--
Peace!
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CS
June 3rd 04, 06:27 AM
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:52:02 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> wrote:

Send that challenge to Symantec, not Kurt. He's right, anything that
says "Norton 2004" is damaged goods. Wake up bad dog and read the
newsgroups about all the problems that people are having with Symantec
products produced for "2004".

You own Symantec stock? Sell!

>There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
>or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
>any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems. This
>does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.
>
>As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>
>I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
>machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
>can't. No one can. The variables are too great.
>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
>don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the right
>to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
>
>
>Bobby
>
>"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
>> Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
>>> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
>>> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
>>> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
>>> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
>>> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
>>> norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>>
>> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>
>>
>

NoNoBadDog!
June 3rd 04, 06:37 AM
Once again the failed logic of "one only has to read these newsgroups...".
People post here when they have a problem not when they DONT have a
problem...that is why you see "so many".

Bobby

"CS" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:52:02 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> > wrote:
>
> Send that challenge to Symantec, not Kurt. He's right, anything that
> says "Norton 2004" is damaged goods. Wake up bad dog and read the
> newsgroups about all the problems that people are having with Symantec
> products produced for "2004".
>
> You own Symantec stock? Sell!
>
>>There are tens of thousands of people using Norton products with no issues
>>or problems. Don't take kurttrails' rants as anything meaningful. As with
>>any software, there are times when some users will encounter problems.
>>This
>>does not make it bad software. The majority of users have no problems.
>>
>>As a side note to you, kurttrail...
>>
>>I challenge you to write a piece of software that will install on every
>>machine that anyone tries to install it on, with a 100% success rate. You
>>can't. No one can. The variables are too great.
>>
>> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
>>don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the
>>right
>>to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
>>
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>>> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
>>>> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
>>>> error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
>>>> systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
>>>> to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
>>>> norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
>>>> norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>>>
>>> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace!
>>> Kurt
>>> Self-anointed Moderator
>>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>>> http://microscum.com
>>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Tom
June 3rd 04, 02:53 PM
----- Original Message -----
From: "kurttrail" >
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Norton will not install


> Thomas wrote:
>
> > im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
> > friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an
> > error message halfway through, the messge is this "Norton
> > systemworks Pro 2004 has failed installation, do you want
> > to try again". i think there are still traces of a previous
> > norton on her computer. i think a computer must be complety
> > norton free in order to install. any ideas?
>
> You're lucky! It be even worse if you could install it. Nortons Sucks!
>

I agree with this post!

Plato
June 3rd 04, 07:10 PM
Thomas wrote:
>
> im trying to install norton systemworks pro 2004 on a
> friends computer. it will not install, i keep getting an

Consider yourself lucky.


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Plato
June 3rd 04, 07:10 PM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>
> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
> don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the right
> to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...

Incorrect assumption. Many folks here work on hundreds of PCs and/or
support hundreds or even thousands of PCs.


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NoNoBadDog!
June 3rd 04, 09:03 PM
As do I. I currently support dozens in a mixed environment. I have had
overwhelming success with all of the Norton products we deploy, and when we
do encounter problems it in invariably an issue with the workstation/server
instead of with Norton. No software will deploy gracefully 100% of the
time, but Norton does seem to deploy much more gracefully than most of the
other software. It is true that in some cases extra effort is required to
resolve issues on individual stations, but no more so than any other
packages. I just hate to see the typical negative "Norton Sucks" line being
parroted to someone who has not yet had a chance to form their own opinion.

Bobby

"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
...
> NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>>
>> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
>> don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the
>> right
>> to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
>
> Incorrect assumption. Many folks here work on hundreds of PCs and/or
> support hundreds or even thousands of PCs.
>
>
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kurttrail
June 3rd 04, 09:03 PM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> As do I. I currently support dozens in a mixed environment. I have
> had overwhelming success with all of the Norton products we deploy,
> and when we do encounter problems it in invariably an issue with the
> workstation/server instead of with Norton. No software will deploy
> gracefully 100% of the time, but Norton does seem to deploy much more
> gracefully than most of the other software. It is true that in some
> cases extra effort is required to resolve issues on individual
> stations, but no more so than any other packages. I just hate to see
> the typical negative "Norton Sucks" line being parroted to someone
> who has not yet had a chance to form their own opinion.

LOL! It's only typical, because most people with even a modicum of
computer tech experience has come to the conclusion of "Norton Sucks"
all on their own.

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Danny Mingledorff
June 3rd 04, 09:52 PM
"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
> NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>
> > As do I. I currently support dozens in a mixed environment. I have
> > had overwhelming success with all of the Norton products we deploy,
> > and when we do encounter problems it in invariably an issue with the
> > workstation/server instead of with Norton. No software will deploy
> > gracefully 100% of the time, but Norton does seem to deploy much more
> > gracefully than most of the other software. It is true that in some
> > cases extra effort is required to resolve issues on individual
> > stations, but no more so than any other packages. I just hate to see
> > the typical negative "Norton Sucks" line being parroted to someone
> > who has not yet had a chance to form their own opinion.
>
> LOL! It's only typical, because most people with even a modicum of
> computer tech experience has come to the conclusion of "Norton Sucks"
> all on their own.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>

The only issues I've had with Norton can be traced back to Luser activity.
I will admit that I've stayed away from any of their 2004 versions based
upon the numerous horror stories associated with them.

....danny

Plato
June 4th 04, 06:56 AM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>

Hi Bobby.

We all have our opinions. Folks can read and decide for themselves. Your
opinion and experience is just as valid as any other and there's no
reason to back down from it.

I just took umbridge at what you said:

"Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the
right to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the
facts..."

Peoples experiences differ. Folks have _every_ right just as you and I
do to voice them.




> As do I. I currently support dozens in a mixed environment. I have had
> overwhelming success with all of the Norton products we deploy, and when we
> do encounter problems it in invariably an issue with the workstation/server
> instead of with Norton. No software will deploy gracefully 100% of the
> time, but Norton does seem to deploy much more gracefully than most of the
> other software. It is true that in some cases extra effort is required to
> resolve issues on individual stations, but no more so than any other
> packages. I just hate to see the typical negative "Norton Sucks" line being
> parroted to someone who has not yet had a chance to form their own opinion.
> >>
> >> Just because you may have had issues with a Norton product, or you just
> >> don't like Norton products for whatever reason, does not give you the
> >> right
> >> to tell everyone else that it is bad software. Stick to the facts...
> >
> > Incorrect assumption. Many folks here work on hundreds of PCs and/or
> > support hundreds or even thousands of PCs.

kurttrail
June 4th 04, 11:49 AM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> I understand and I apologize for offending you. The post that
> originally inspired me to respond was a person posting literally
> nothing more than "That's because Norton Sucks" or something close to
> that. It had nothing to back it up. It was not relating any
> particular experience, as I had. It was just a blanket statement
> with no justification. As with any product, it will work for some
> and others will have problems. Others tried to paint a picture that
> Norton would never install on any machine ever. I wanted to counter
> that idea. It was just my $0.02. I stand by what I posted....I have
> had nothing but good experiences with Norton products both Enterprise
> and Consumer. When I did encounter problems, it has always been for
> reasons other than the Norton software. The neophytes that come
> here should also be able to red that there are many who use Norton
> products and like them, as well as the nay sayers and the anti-Norton
> groupies.
>
> Bobby

And all you have to back up that Norton doesn't suck is that YOU haven't yet
experienced a problem. So I guess that means a lot to YOU, but is as
meaningless to the OP, as me saying that Norton Sucks.

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Plato
June 5th 04, 05:02 AM
NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>
> I understand and I apologize for offending you. The post that originally

After 40,000+ USEnet posts trust me I have thick skin :)

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