40 GB shows as 37.2 ???????????

I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB all
my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb=
1024mb. Pls help

[Shenan Stanley]

anonymous wrote:
> I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
> and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
> capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
> when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
> the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB all
> my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
> must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb=
> 1024mb. Pls help


Yeah - formatted size and hard drive manufacturer math is different.

Essentially - here is the REALISTIC numbers:

Advertised --- Actual Capacity
10GB --- 9.31 GB
20GB --- 18.63 GB
30GB --- 27.94 GB
40GB --- 37.25 GB
60GB --- 55.88 GB
80GB --- 74.51 GB
100GB --- 93.13 GB
120GB --- 111.76 GB
160GB --- 149.01 GB
180GB --- 167.64 GB
200GB --- 186.26 GB
250GB --- 232.83 GB

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[computeu]

it's your mother board. you still have 40 gigs but your board isnt set to respond to more than 38 gigs. see your local dealer for the upgrade you need. comp usa is great for fixing this type of issue.

----- wrote: -----

I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB all
my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb=
1024mb. Pls help

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

That's completely wrong. And CompUSA is one of the _worst_
possible places to take a computer for service.

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"computeu" > wrote in message
...
> it's your mother board. you still have 40 gigs but your board isnt
set to respond to more than 38 gigs. see your local dealer for the
upgrade you need. comp usa is great for fixing this type of issue.
>

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

WinXP, like other operating systems, measures kilobytes,
megabytes, and gigabytes as:

1 Kb = 1024 bytes
1 Mb = 1024 Kb = 1,048,576 bytes
1 Gb = 1024 Mb = 1,073,741,824 bytes

However, a common marketing ploy used by hard drive manufacturers
to make
their products seem a bit larger than they really are is to assign the
value of an even 1,000,000,000 bytes to the gigabyte.



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> wrote in message
...
> I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
> and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
> capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
> when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
> the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB all
> my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
> must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb=
> 1024mb. Pls help

[[email protected]]

Do you have an IBM Thinkpad? Then, there is a hidden partition of ~3GB
at the end of your drive that holds a backup version of Windows XP
distribution, etc. If you want to make it visible, go to the BIOS
settings, but then IBM won't restore your hard drive if it gets messed up.

wrote:
> I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
> and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
> capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
> when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
> the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB all
> my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
> must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb=
> 1024mb. Pls help

[luminos]

It was satire. Please open your mind up.

[NoNoBadDog!]

What kind of drugs are you on?

Bobby

"computeu" > wrote in message
...
> it's your mother board. you still have 40 gigs but your board isnt set to
> respond to more than 38 gigs. see your local dealer for the upgrade you
> need. comp usa is great for fixing this type of issue.
>
> ----- wrote: -----
>
> I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
> and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
> capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
> when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
> the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB all
> my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
> must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb=
> 1024mb. Pls help
>

[Joh N.]

luminos, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

> It was satire. Please open your mind up.

ROFLMAO! Bruce...open his mind up!? LMAO!

Joh N.
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[Avenger©]

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:26:02 -0700, "computeu"
> wrote:

>it's your mother board. you still have 40 gigs but your board isnt set to respond to more than 38 gigs. see your local dealer for the upgrade you need. comp usa is great for fixing this type of issue.

Pal, stick to something you know something about!! Computers aint it
:o)
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[Steve N.]

wrote:

> Do you have an IBM Thinkpad? Then, there is a hidden partition of ~3GB
> at the end of your drive that holds a backup version of Windows XP
> distribution, etc. If you want to make it visible, go to the BIOS
> settings, but then IBM won't restore your hard drive if it gets messed up.

Reading comprehension problem, eh?

Steve

>
> wrote:
>
>> I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it and the HDD
>> said in the manual that the formatted capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS
>> shows it as 40032 MB but when I formatted it with NTFS while
>> installing XP, after the installation in my computer it shows only
>> 37.2 GB all my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
>> must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb= 1024mb. Pls
>> help

[Steve N.]

wrote:

> Do you have an IBM Thinkpad? Then, there is a hidden partition of ~3GB
> at the end of your drive that holds a backup version of Windows XP
> distribution, etc. If you want to make it visible, go to the BIOS
> settings, but then IBM won't restore your hard drive if it gets messed up.

Reading comprehension problem, eh?

Steve

>
> wrote:
>
>> I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it and the HDD
>> said in the manual that the formatted capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS
>> shows it as 40032 MB but when I formatted it with NTFS while
>> installing XP, after the installation in my computer it shows only
>> 37.2 GB all my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
>> must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb= 1024mb. Pls
>> help

[Alex Nichol]

> wrote:

>I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
>and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
>capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
>when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
>the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB

The 40 is 40 billion - decimal. For convenience capacities in the
system are handled in a binary near equivalent, where
1K = 1024
1 M = 1024 K
1G = 1024 M = 1.0737. . . billion.
40 / 1.0737 = 37.25



--
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Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[Alex Nichol]

luminos wrote:

>It was satire. Please open your mind up.

When it is a question that is very frequently asked, in all seriousness,
it is very bad at being satire. And if some of the answers were taken
seriously it is not helping the questioner.


--
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Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[Plato]

=?Utf-8?B?Y29tcHV0ZXU=?= wrote:
>

Incorrect.

> it's your mother board. you still have 40 gigs but your board isnt set to respond to more than 38 gigs. see your local dealer for the upgrade you need. comp usa is great for fixing this type of issue.
>
> I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
> and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
> capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
> when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
> the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB all
> my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
> must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb=
> 1024mb. Pls help
>

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[Gazzaa]

As far as i know XP pro allocates some HDD space for temp files and other
things e.g. system restore n stuff like that...


"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
...
> =?Utf-8?B?Y29tcHV0ZXU=?= wrote:
> >
>
> Incorrect.
>
> > it's your mother board. you still have 40 gigs but your board isnt set
to respond to more than 38 gigs. see your local dealer for the upgrade you
need. comp usa is great for fixing this type of issue.
> >
> > I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on it
> > and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
> > capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB but
> > when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP, after
> > the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB all
> > my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly they
> > must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not 1gb=
> > 1024mb. Pls help
> >
>
> --
> http://www.bootdisk.com/

[Ken Blake, MVP]

In ,
Gazzaa > typed:

> As far as i know XP pro allocates some HDD space for temp files
and
> other things e.g. system restore n stuff like that...


No, this isn't correct. The original poster surmised the correct
answer himself. This is a frequent source opf confusion. All hard
drive manufacturers define 1GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes, while the
rest of the computer world, including Windows, defines it as 2 to
the 30th power (1,073,741,824) bytes. So a 40 billion byte drive
is actually 37.2 gigabytes.

Some people point out that the official international standard
defines the "G" of GB as one billion, not 1,073,741,824. Correct
though they are, using the binary value of GB is so well
established in the computer world that I consider using the
decimal value of a billion to be deceptive marketing.

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>
>
> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
> ...
>> =?Utf-8?B?Y29tcHV0ZXU=?= wrote:
>> >
>>
>> Incorrect.
>>
>> > it's your mother board. you still have 40 gigs but your
board
>> > isnt set
> to respond to more than 38 gigs. see your local dealer for the
> upgrade you need. comp usa is great for fixing this type of
issue.
>> >
>> > I had got a new Samsung HDD 40 GB to install XP Pro on
it
>> > and the HDD said in the manual that the formatted
>> > capacity is 40 GB. Even my BIOS shows it as 40032 MB
but
>> > when I formatted it with NTFS while installing XP,
after
>> > the installation in my computer it shows only 37.2 GB
all
>> > my jumper settings are right. Is it because possibly
they
>> > must be measuring 1gb=1000mb, 1mb=1000kb ... and not
1gb=
>> > 1024mb. Pls help
>> >
>>
>> --
>> http://www.bootdisk.com/

[Gazzaa]

*stands corrected*
TyVm :)


"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> In ,
> Gazzaa > typed:
>
> > As far as i know XP pro allocates some HDD space for temp files
> and
> > other things e.g. system restore n stuff like that...
>
>
> No, this isn't correct. The original poster surmised the correct
> answer himself. This is a frequent source opf confusion. All hard
> drive manufacturers define 1GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes, while the
> rest of the computer world, including Windows, defines it as 2 to
> the 30th power (1,073,741,824) bytes. So a 40 billion byte drive
> is actually 37.2 gigabytes.