View Full Version : Problems installing big hard drive
Neal Rosen
December 9th 03, 01:48 PM
I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit addressing
and isstalled the controller card that came with the drive.
The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
only 127 gigs.
What more must I do to make the system see the full drive
capacity?
Pete Baker
December 9th 03, 01:49 PM
Neal
Have you installed XP Service Pack 1?
Check through the information and steps needed to let XP see the full
drive here
How to Enable 48-bit Logical Block Addressing Support for ATAPI Disk Drives
in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303013
Hope that helps
Pete
---------------------------
"Neal Rosen" wrote in message
> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit addressing
> and isstalled the controller card that came with the drive.
>
> The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
> Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
> only 127 gigs.
>
> What more must I do to make the system see the full drive
> capacity?
LVTravel
December 9th 03, 01:49 PM
Here's a really stupid question. Did you plug the new drive into the new
controller card or into the motherboard's controller? If you plugged it
into the MB, put it on the add-in card as the Primary Master/single (jumper
setting).
As you did not specify where you plugged in the drive, this would be one
solution.
If you plugged in the drive to the new controller card, you will have to
repartition the drive in Windows XP. Click on Start, Settings, Control
Panel, double click on Administrative Tools, double click on Computer
Management. Click on Disk Management. Find your new drive in the list to
the right. Right click on the drive and choose delete partition if
available. After the computer has deleted the partition, right click again
and click on Initialize drive.
You must format to NTFS and not FAT 32 as Win XP can't format a drive above
32 MB as FAT 32.
--
Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem has been solved to
assist all on the newsgroup
"Neal Rosen" > wrote in message
...
> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit addressing
> and isstalled the controller card that came with the drive.
>
> The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
> Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
> only 127 gigs.
>
> What more must I do to make the system see the full drive
> capacity?
Thomas Funk
December 9th 03, 01:50 PM
Neal Rosen > wrote:
> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit addressing
> and isstalled the controller card that came with the drive.
I had the same issue. It only showed up as 128 gigs when attached
to the controller card (Promise100, one that I bought separately,
and also on the one that came with the drive), but when I attached
it to the on-board controller, it sees the full capacity. Don't
know why.
I have all the latest SPs and atapi.sys etc...
Tom
neal rosen
December 9th 03, 01:52 PM
I still have to confirm where the drive is connected.
But, I have noticed that when I go to the device manager,
for some odd reason the manager seems to say that my EIDE
WD 160 gig drive is a SCSI drive. It also, after
installing the Intel application accelerator, still shows
127 gig instead of the 150 gigs or so a 160 gig hard
drive should show as avaialble. Also, in following your
instructions, I do not se a list on the right after
opening the Administration management and I certainly do
not see the drive listed. I only see it in the device
manager.
While I will still check the controller card, do you have
any other suggestions? Thank you for your help.
neal.
>-----Original Message-----
>Here's a really stupid question. Did you plug the new
drive into the new
>controller card or into the motherboard's controller?
If you plugged it
>into the MB, put it on the add-in card as the Primary
Master/single (jumper
>setting).
>
>As you did not specify where you plugged in the drive,
this would be one
>solution.
>
>If you plugged in the drive to the new controller card,
you will have to
>repartition the drive in Windows XP. Click on Start,
Settings, Control
>Panel, double click on Administrative Tools, double
click on Computer
>Management. Click on Disk Management. Find your new
drive in the list to
>the right. Right click on the drive and choose delete
partition if
>available. After the computer has deleted the
partition, right click again
>and click on Initialize drive.
>
>You must format to NTFS and not FAT 32 as Win XP can't
format a drive above
>32 MB as FAT 32.
>
>--
>Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem
has been solved to
>assist all on the newsgroup
>
>
>"Neal Rosen" > wrote in
message
...
>> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
>> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
>> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit
addressing
>> and isstalled the controller card that came with the
drive.
>>
>> The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
>> Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
>> only 127 gigs.
>>
>> What more must I do to make the system see the full
drive
>> capacity?
>
>
>.
>
neal rosen
December 9th 03, 01:59 PM
You were kind enough to provide me with some help already
on this matter, so I hope you will consent to give me just
a bit more help. The drive shows up in the device manager
as a SCSI device (I think because it sees the controller
that way). I assume that means it sees the controller
card. The drive is definitely connected to the card, not
the motherboard. It also, after installing the Intel
application accelerator, still shows 127 gig instead of
the 150 gigs or so that I assume a 160 gig hard drive
should show as available. Also, in following your
instructions, I do not see a list on the right after
opening the Administration management in the control panel
and I certainly do not see the drive listed. I only see
the drive only if I go into the device manager. I don't
see any option to delete any partition. Do you have any
other suggestions? Thank you for your help. If you
can't help me I will pretty much be forced to take it in
to a shop for $50-$100 for them to fix the problem.
Please reply to all senders so I can get the answer at
home as well as in the office. Neal.
>-----Original Message-----
>Here's a really stupid question. Did you plug the new
drive into the new
>controller card or into the motherboard's controller? If
you plugged it
>into the MB, put it on the add-in card as the Primary
Master/single (jumper
>setting).
>
>As you did not specify where you plugged in the drive,
this would be one
>solution.
>
>If you plugged in the drive to the new controller card,
you will have to
>repartition the drive in Windows XP. Click on Start,
Settings, Control
>Panel, double click on Administrative Tools, double click
on Computer
>Management. Click on Disk Management. Find your new
drive in the list to
>the right. Right click on the drive and choose delete
partition if
>available. After the computer has deleted the partition,
right click again
>and click on Initialize drive.
>
>You must format to NTFS and not FAT 32 as Win XP can't
format a drive above
>32 MB as FAT 32.
>
>--
>Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem
has been solved to
>assist all on the newsgroup
>
>
>"Neal Rosen" > wrote in
message
...
>> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
>> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
>> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit
addressing
>> and isstalled the controller card that came with the
drive.
>>
>> The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
>> Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
>> only 127 gigs.
>>
>> What more must I do to make the system see the full
drive
>> capacity?
>
>
>.
>
Pete Baker
December 9th 03, 01:59 PM
Neal
My apologies for jumping back into this thread, but you seem to be having
trouble finding the required disk management utility.
Right-click on "My Computer" and select "Manage".
Disk management is listed under Storage on the left.
After clicking on 'Disk Management' you should be able to see the drive in
the right hand side panel.
Check the disk there and whether you need to delete the existing partition
or initialize first.
If you want further details then there is info on installing a disk using
disk management here - you may already have completed some of the steps but
it does include some assistance and images to guide you.
http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/install_xp_disk_mgmt.html
Although it is on the Seagate site the instructions should work for any
drive.
Hope that helps
Pete
------------
"neal rosen" wrote in message
> You were kind enough to provide me with some help already
> on this matter, so I hope you will consent to give me just
> a bit more help. The drive shows up in the device manager
> as a SCSI device (I think because it sees the controller
> that way). I assume that means it sees the controller
> card. The drive is definitely connected to the card, not
> the motherboard. It also, after installing the Intel
> application accelerator, still shows 127 gig instead of
> the 150 gigs or so that I assume a 160 gig hard drive
> should show as available. Also, in following your
> instructions, I do not see a list on the right after
> opening the Administration management in the control panel
> and I certainly do not see the drive listed. I only see
> the drive only if I go into the device manager. I don't
> see any option to delete any partition. Do you have any
> other suggestions? Thank you for your help. If you
> can't help me I will pretty much be forced to take it in
> to a shop for $50-$100 for them to fix the problem.
> Please reply to all senders so I can get the answer at
> home as well as in the office. Neal.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Here's a really stupid question. Did you plug the new
> drive into the new
> >controller card or into the motherboard's controller? If
> you plugged it
> >into the MB, put it on the add-in card as the Primary
> Master/single (jumper
> >setting).
> >
> >As you did not specify where you plugged in the drive,
> this would be one
> >solution.
> >
> >If you plugged in the drive to the new controller card,
> you will have to
> >repartition the drive in Windows XP. Click on Start,
> Settings, Control
> >Panel, double click on Administrative Tools, double click
> on Computer
> >Management. Click on Disk Management. Find your new
> drive in the list to
> >the right. Right click on the drive and choose delete
> partition if
> >available. After the computer has deleted the partition,
> right click again
> >and click on Initialize drive.
> >
> >You must format to NTFS and not FAT 32 as Win XP can't
> format a drive above
> >32 MB as FAT 32.
> >
> >--
> >Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem
> has been solved to
> >assist all on the newsgroup
> >
> >
> >"Neal Rosen" wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
> >> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
> >> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit
> addressing
> >> and isstalled the controller card that came with the
> drive.
> >>
> >> The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
> >> Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
> >> only 127 gigs.
> >>
> >> What more must I do to make the system see the full
> drive
> >> capacity?
> >
> >
> >.
> >
LVTravel
December 9th 03, 02:38 PM
Pete, thanks for jumping in. I've been away from the computer where I
highlighed this thread.
Neal, Pete has told you how to get into the disk management in a different
way than I told you but both get to the same place. Once in Disk Management
you may need to scroll down the list to find your new drive. Right clicking
on the drive gives the menu for deleting a partition and creating a new one.
As for the computer stating that the device is a SCSI device. The IDE
controller card is normally recognized as a SCSI device in the Device
Manager even though the drives are IDE. It doesn't matter to the OS at all.
--
Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem has been solved to
assist all on the newsgroup
"Pete Baker" <petebkrAThotmailDOTcom> wrote in message
...
> Neal
>
> My apologies for jumping back into this thread, but you seem to be having
> trouble finding the required disk management utility.
>
> Right-click on "My Computer" and select "Manage".
> Disk management is listed under Storage on the left.
> After clicking on 'Disk Management' you should be able to see the drive in
> the right hand side panel.
>
> Check the disk there and whether you need to delete the existing partition
> or initialize first.
>
> If you want further details then there is info on installing a disk using
> disk management here - you may already have completed some of the steps
but
> it does include some assistance and images to guide you.
>
> http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/install_xp_disk_mgmt.html
>
> Although it is on the Seagate site the instructions should work for any
> drive.
>
> Hope that helps
> Pete
> ------------
>
>
> "neal rosen" wrote in message
> > You were kind enough to provide me with some help already
> > on this matter, so I hope you will consent to give me just
> > a bit more help. The drive shows up in the device manager
> > as a SCSI device (I think because it sees the controller
> > that way). I assume that means it sees the controller
> > card. The drive is definitely connected to the card, not
> > the motherboard. It also, after installing the Intel
> > application accelerator, still shows 127 gig instead of
> > the 150 gigs or so that I assume a 160 gig hard drive
> > should show as available. Also, in following your
> > instructions, I do not see a list on the right after
> > opening the Administration management in the control panel
> > and I certainly do not see the drive listed. I only see
> > the drive only if I go into the device manager. I don't
> > see any option to delete any partition. Do you have any
> > other suggestions? Thank you for your help. If you
> > can't help me I will pretty much be forced to take it in
> > to a shop for $50-$100 for them to fix the problem.
> > Please reply to all senders so I can get the answer at
> > home as well as in the office. Neal.
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Here's a really stupid question. Did you plug the new
> > drive into the new
> > >controller card or into the motherboard's controller? If
> > you plugged it
> > >into the MB, put it on the add-in card as the Primary
> > Master/single (jumper
> > >setting).
> > >
> > >As you did not specify where you plugged in the drive,
> > this would be one
> > >solution.
> > >
> > >If you plugged in the drive to the new controller card,
> > you will have to
> > >repartition the drive in Windows XP. Click on Start,
> > Settings, Control
> > >Panel, double click on Administrative Tools, double click
> > on Computer
> > >Management. Click on Disk Management. Find your new
> > drive in the list to
> > >the right. Right click on the drive and choose delete
> > partition if
> > >available. After the computer has deleted the partition,
> > right click again
> > >and click on Initialize drive.
> > >
> > >You must format to NTFS and not FAT 32 as Win XP can't
> > format a drive above
> > >32 MB as FAT 32.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem
> > has been solved to
> > >assist all on the newsgroup
> > >
> > >
> > >"Neal Rosen" wrote in
> > message
> > ...
> > >> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
> > >> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
> > >> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit
> > addressing
> > >> and isstalled the controller card that came with the
> > drive.
> > >>
> > >> The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
> > >> Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
> > >> only 127 gigs.
> > >>
> > >> What more must I do to make the system see the full
> > drive
> > >> capacity?
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>
Pete Baker
December 9th 03, 02:38 PM
No problem LV.
Neal seems to be temporarily AWOL from this thread but hopefully he will
update on his progress.
Cheers
Pete
"LVTravel" wrote in message
> Pete, thanks for jumping in. I've been away from the computer where I
> highlighed this thread.
>
> Neal, Pete has told you how to get into the disk management in a different
> way than I told you but both get to the same place. Once in Disk
Management
> you may need to scroll down the list to find your new drive. Right
clicking
> on the drive gives the menu for deleting a partition and creating a new
one.
>
> As for the computer stating that the device is a SCSI device. The IDE
> controller card is normally recognized as a SCSI device in the Device
> Manager even though the drives are IDE. It doesn't matter to the OS at
all.
>
> --
> Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem has been solved to
> assist all on the newsgroup
>
>
> "Pete Baker" <petebkrAThotmailDOTcom> wrote in message
> ...
> > Neal
> >
> > My apologies for jumping back into this thread, but you seem to be
having
> > trouble finding the required disk management utility.
> >
> > Right-click on "My Computer" and select "Manage".
> > Disk management is listed under Storage on the left.
> > After clicking on 'Disk Management' you should be able to see the drive
in
> > the right hand side panel.
> >
> > Check the disk there and whether you need to delete the existing
partition
> > or initialize first.
> >
> > If you want further details then there is info on installing a disk
using
> > disk management here - you may already have completed some of the steps
> but
> > it does include some assistance and images to guide you.
> >
> > http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/install_xp_disk_mgmt.html
> >
> > Although it is on the Seagate site the instructions should work for any
> > drive.
> >
> > Hope that helps
> > Pete
> > ------------
> >
> >
> > "neal rosen" wrote in message
> > > You were kind enough to provide me with some help already
> > > on this matter, so I hope you will consent to give me just
> > > a bit more help. The drive shows up in the device manager
> > > as a SCSI device (I think because it sees the controller
> > > that way). I assume that means it sees the controller
> > > card. The drive is definitely connected to the card, not
> > > the motherboard. It also, after installing the Intel
> > > application accelerator, still shows 127 gig instead of
> > > the 150 gigs or so that I assume a 160 gig hard drive
> > > should show as available. Also, in following your
> > > instructions, I do not see a list on the right after
> > > opening the Administration management in the control panel
> > > and I certainly do not see the drive listed. I only see
> > > the drive only if I go into the device manager. I don't
> > > see any option to delete any partition. Do you have any
> > > other suggestions? Thank you for your help. If you
> > > can't help me I will pretty much be forced to take it in
> > > to a shop for $50-$100 for them to fix the problem.
> > > Please reply to all senders so I can get the answer at
> > > home as well as in the office. Neal.
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >Here's a really stupid question. Did you plug the new
> > > drive into the new
> > > >controller card or into the motherboard's controller? If
> > > you plugged it
> > > >into the MB, put it on the add-in card as the Primary
> > > Master/single (jumper
> > > >setting).
> > > >
> > > >As you did not specify where you plugged in the drive,
> > > this would be one
> > > >solution.
> > > >
> > > >If you plugged in the drive to the new controller card,
> > > you will have to
> > > >repartition the drive in Windows XP. Click on Start,
> > > Settings, Control
> > > >Panel, double click on Administrative Tools, double click
> > > on Computer
> > > >Management. Click on Disk Management. Find your new
> > > drive in the list to
> > > >the right. Right click on the drive and choose delete
> > > partition if
> > > >available. After the computer has deleted the partition,
> > > right click again
> > > >and click on Initialize drive.
> > > >
> > > >You must format to NTFS and not FAT 32 as Win XP can't
> > > format a drive above
> > > >32 MB as FAT 32.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem
> > > has been solved to
> > > >assist all on the newsgroup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Neal Rosen" wrote in
> > > message
> > > ...
> > > >> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
> > > >> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
> > > >> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit
> > > addressing
> > > >> and isstalled the controller card that came with the
> > > drive.
> > > >>
> > > >> The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
> > > >> Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
> > > >> only 127 gigs.
> > > >>
> > > >> What more must I do to make the system see the full
> > > drive
> > > >> capacity?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
Tasioulis George
December 9th 03, 02:38 PM
Also check the following page:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305098
You just have to enable the "EnableBigLba" registry value in order to be
able to create/view/format etc. partitions larger than 137GB
George
"Pete Baker" <petebkrAThotmailDOTcom> wrote in message
...
> No problem LV.
>
> Neal seems to be temporarily AWOL from this thread but hopefully he will
> update on his progress.
>
> Cheers
> Pete
>
> "LVTravel" wrote in message
> > Pete, thanks for jumping in. I've been away from the computer where I
> > highlighed this thread.
> >
> > Neal, Pete has told you how to get into the disk management in a
different
> > way than I told you but both get to the same place. Once in Disk
> Management
> > you may need to scroll down the list to find your new drive. Right
> clicking
> > on the drive gives the menu for deleting a partition and creating a new
> one.
> >
> > As for the computer stating that the device is a SCSI device. The IDE
> > controller card is normally recognized as a SCSI device in the Device
> > Manager even though the drives are IDE. It doesn't matter to the OS at
> all.
> >
> > --
> > Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem has been solved
to
> > assist all on the newsgroup
> >
> >
> > "Pete Baker" <petebkrAThotmailDOTcom> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Neal
> > >
> > > My apologies for jumping back into this thread, but you seem to be
> having
> > > trouble finding the required disk management utility.
> > >
> > > Right-click on "My Computer" and select "Manage".
> > > Disk management is listed under Storage on the left.
> > > After clicking on 'Disk Management' you should be able to see the
drive
> in
> > > the right hand side panel.
> > >
> > > Check the disk there and whether you need to delete the existing
> partition
> > > or initialize first.
> > >
> > > If you want further details then there is info on installing a disk
> using
> > > disk management here - you may already have completed some of the
steps
> > but
> > > it does include some assistance and images to guide you.
> > >
> > > http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/howto/install_xp_disk_mgmt.html
> > >
> > > Although it is on the Seagate site the instructions should work for
any
> > > drive.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps
> > > Pete
> > > ------------
> > >
> > >
> > > "neal rosen" wrote in message
> > > > You were kind enough to provide me with some help already
> > > > on this matter, so I hope you will consent to give me just
> > > > a bit more help. The drive shows up in the device manager
> > > > as a SCSI device (I think because it sees the controller
> > > > that way). I assume that means it sees the controller
> > > > card. The drive is definitely connected to the card, not
> > > > the motherboard. It also, after installing the Intel
> > > > application accelerator, still shows 127 gig instead of
> > > > the 150 gigs or so that I assume a 160 gig hard drive
> > > > should show as available. Also, in following your
> > > > instructions, I do not see a list on the right after
> > > > opening the Administration management in the control panel
> > > > and I certainly do not see the drive listed. I only see
> > > > the drive only if I go into the device manager. I don't
> > > > see any option to delete any partition. Do you have any
> > > > other suggestions? Thank you for your help. If you
> > > > can't help me I will pretty much be forced to take it in
> > > > to a shop for $50-$100 for them to fix the problem.
> > > > Please reply to all senders so I can get the answer at
> > > > home as well as in the office. Neal.
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >Here's a really stupid question. Did you plug the new
> > > > drive into the new
> > > > >controller card or into the motherboard's controller? If
> > > > you plugged it
> > > > >into the MB, put it on the add-in card as the Primary
> > > > Master/single (jumper
> > > > >setting).
> > > > >
> > > > >As you did not specify where you plugged in the drive,
> > > > this would be one
> > > > >solution.
> > > > >
> > > > >If you plugged in the drive to the new controller card,
> > > > you will have to
> > > > >repartition the drive in Windows XP. Click on Start,
> > > > Settings, Control
> > > > >Panel, double click on Administrative Tools, double click
> > > > on Computer
> > > > >Management. Click on Disk Management. Find your new
> > > > drive in the list to
> > > > >the right. Right click on the drive and choose delete
> > > > partition if
> > > > >available. After the computer has deleted the partition,
> > > > right click again
> > > > >and click on Initialize drive.
> > > > >
> > > > >You must format to NTFS and not FAT 32 as Win XP can't
> > > > format a drive above
> > > > >32 MB as FAT 32.
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Please respond back to the newsgroup when your problem
> > > > has been solved to
> > > > >assist all on the newsgroup
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"Neal Rosen" wrote in
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> > > > >> I am trying to install a 160 gig WD eide drive in my PC
> > > > >> with a 1.8Ghz P4 Intel D850MV board. I have already
> > > > >> upgraded the bios and the atapi.sys for 48 bit
> > > > addressing
> > > > >> and isstalled the controller card that came with the
> > > > drive.
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> > > > >> The next step should eb to format the drive. However,
> > > > >> Windows explorer shows the unformatted drive as having
> > > > >> only 127 gigs.
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> > > > >> What more must I do to make the system see the full
> > > > drive
> > > > >> capacity?
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