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[Unknown]

I will quote James Coates a writer for the Chicago Tribune. You can contact
him easily via e-mail at
In Mondays Tribune in response to a question, Jim writes " there are more
sophisticated firewalls, including one from Norton and the hugely popular Zone
Alarm, to fine tune rules about which outsiders can access a PC, but the
built-in Windows firewall works just as well by stopping all comers. That is
about all most of us need"
And my POINT is very simply 'don't dirty up your computer by installing
unneeded garbage'
These news groups are all full of posts that ask for solutions to problems
caused by Norton, Zone Alarm. AV programs etc. Windows does an excellent job
and will even be better when SP2 is released.

"Newbie" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for all the replys - I have loaded Norton Personal Firewall.
>
>
> "...D." > wrote in message
> ...
> > "curious" > wrote:
> > >I have been looking for a free firewall. They say they are free but the
> > >download is only free. I would like free software. I am a home user and
> > >use the computer for pure enjoyment only.
> > >Thanks for your time.
> >
> > I am sure others have answered with this, but here it is anyway.
> >
> > 1st, Windows XP has a built in firewall. It is a basic firewall that
> > doesn't tell you when an intrusion attempt is made or a program wants
> > to "get out" of your computer onto the Internet (Usually a legitimate
> > reason). But it works ok, just no bells and whistles. But you must
> > turn it on. To turn it on, click:
> > start\control-panel\network-connections,
> > then right-click on the network in there (modem or cable or whatever),
> > then choose "properties", then choose "advanced",
> > and check the box there that says "protect my computer etc etc".
> > Don't forget to "apply" or "OK" or however it saves your setting.
> >
> > Or, I am told "Zone Alarm" is an excellent free Firewall. But as with
> > other programs, there is a free version and a "Pro" version. Make
> > sure you locate & download the free version. You get some bells and
> > whistles with it, as opposed to the XP firewall.
> >
> > Also, a good free anti-virus program that updates itself is "AVG".
> > Again, get the free version not the Pro version.
> >
> > ...D.
> >
> >
>
>

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Yes, I've read, and laughed uproariously, over some of the
"advice" Mr. Coates has offered in the past. Citing him as your
reference does your cause no good, whatsoever.

Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Unknown" > wrote in message
gy.com...
> I will quote James Coates a writer for the Chicago Tribune. You can
contact
> him easily via e-mail at
> In Mondays Tribune in response to a question, Jim writes " there are
more
> sophisticated firewalls, including one from Norton and the hugely
popular Zone
> Alarm, to fine tune rules about which outsiders can access a PC, but
the
> built-in Windows firewall works just as well by stopping all comers.
That is
> about all most of us need"
> And my POINT is very simply 'don't dirty up your computer by
installing
> unneeded garbage'
> These news groups are all full of posts that ask for solutions to
problems
> caused by Norton, Zone Alarm. AV programs etc. Windows does an
excellent job
> and will even be better when SP2 is released.
>

[Unknown]

By magnitudes his advice is superior than yours. Yours is always tinted with
fear rather than truth.
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Yes, I've read, and laughed uproariously, over some of the
> "advice" Mr. Coates has offered in the past. Citing him as your
> reference does your cause no good, whatsoever.
>
> Bruce Chambers
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. - RAH
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> gy.com...
> > I will quote James Coates a writer for the Chicago Tribune. You can
> contact
> > him easily via e-mail at
> > In Mondays Tribune in response to a question, Jim writes " there are
> more
> > sophisticated firewalls, including one from Norton and the hugely
> popular Zone
> > Alarm, to fine tune rules about which outsiders can access a PC, but
> the
> > built-in Windows firewall works just as well by stopping all comers.
> That is
> > about all most of us need"
> > And my POINT is very simply 'don't dirty up your computer by
> installing
> > unneeded garbage'
> > These news groups are all full of posts that ask for solutions to
> problems
> > caused by Norton, Zone Alarm. AV programs etc. Windows does an
> excellent job
> > and will even be better when SP2 is released.
> >
>
>

[Joe Roberts]

Bruce,
There is no use trying to convince this "unknowing" person. He/she will have
to learn the hard way as many of us have in the past.

--
Joe

=====================================
ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING MESSAGES ARE SCANNED BY NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2004

=====================================

"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Yes, I've read, and laughed uproariously, over some of the
> "advice" Mr. Coates has offered in the past. Citing him as your
> reference does your cause no good, whatsoever.
>
> Bruce Chambers
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. - RAH
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> gy.com...
> > I will quote James Coates a writer for the Chicago Tribune. You can
> contact
> > him easily via e-mail at
> > In Mondays Tribune in response to a question, Jim writes " there are
> more
> > sophisticated firewalls, including one from Norton and the hugely
> popular Zone
> > Alarm, to fine tune rules about which outsiders can access a PC, but
> the
> > built-in Windows firewall works just as well by stopping all comers.
> That is
> > about all most of us need"
> > And my POINT is very simply 'don't dirty up your computer by
> installing
> > unneeded garbage'
> > These news groups are all full of posts that ask for solutions to
> problems
> > caused by Norton, Zone Alarm. AV programs etc. Windows does an
> excellent job
> > and will even be better when SP2 is released.
> >
>
>

[Unknown]

No you really haven't learned. If you did, you would understand and admit that
AV programs are not needed.
"Joe Roberts" > wrote in message
. ..
> Bruce,
> There is no use trying to convince this "unknowing" person. He/she will have
> to learn the hard way as many of us have in the past.
>
> --
> Joe
>
> =====================================
> ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING MESSAGES ARE SCANNED BY NORTON ANTIVIRUS 2004
>
> =====================================
>
> "Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings --
> >
> > Yes, I've read, and laughed uproariously, over some of the
> > "advice" Mr. Coates has offered in the past. Citing him as your
> > reference does your cause no good, whatsoever.
> >
> > Bruce Chambers
> > --
> > Help us help you:
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> > having both at once. - RAH
> >
> >
> > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > gy.com...
> > > I will quote James Coates a writer for the Chicago Tribune. You can
> > contact
> > > him easily via e-mail at
> > > In Mondays Tribune in response to a question, Jim writes " there are
> > more
> > > sophisticated firewalls, including one from Norton and the hugely
> > popular Zone
> > > Alarm, to fine tune rules about which outsiders can access a PC, but
> > the
> > > built-in Windows firewall works just as well by stopping all comers.
> > That is
> > > about all most of us need"
> > > And my POINT is very simply 'don't dirty up your computer by
> > installing
> > > unneeded garbage'
> > > These news groups are all full of posts that ask for solutions to
> > problems
> > > caused by Norton, Zone Alarm. AV programs etc. Windows does an
> > excellent job
> > > and will even be better when SP2 is released.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Unknown]

Aren't you the one that was trying to tell me floppies have clusters? It's
beneficial to defrag a floppy?
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Yes, I've read, and laughed uproariously, over some of the
> "advice" Mr. Coates has offered in the past. Citing him as your
> reference does your cause no good, whatsoever.
>
> Bruce Chambers
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. - RAH
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> gy.com...
> > I will quote James Coates a writer for the Chicago Tribune. You can
> contact
> > him easily via e-mail at
> > In Mondays Tribune in response to a question, Jim writes " there are
> more
> > sophisticated firewalls, including one from Norton and the hugely
> popular Zone
> > Alarm, to fine tune rules about which outsiders can access a PC, but
> the
> > built-in Windows firewall works just as well by stopping all comers.
> That is
> > about all most of us need"
> > And my POINT is very simply 'don't dirty up your computer by
> installing
> > unneeded garbage'
> > These news groups are all full of posts that ask for solutions to
> problems
> > caused by Norton, Zone Alarm. AV programs etc. Windows does an
> excellent job
> > and will even be better when SP2 is released.
> >
>
>
>

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Oh, I realize that there's no chance of convincing "Unknown."
He's clearly made up his mind and has no intention of being influenced
by reality. I respond to him primarily so that the less experienced,
new computer users won't be so easily "taken in" by his simplistic
views; to let them see that his arbitrary pronouncements are not
universally accepted.


Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Joe Roberts" > wrote in message
. ..
> Bruce,
> There is no use trying to convince this "unknowing" person. He/she
will have
> to learn the hard way as many of us have in the past.
>
> --
> Joe
>

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Nope, not me. That sounds more like something you'd have said,
based upon your other opinions. It would be silly to defrag a floppy.

Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Unknown" > wrote in message
gy.com...
> Aren't you the one that was trying to tell me floppies have
clusters? It's
> beneficial to defrag a floppy?

[Unknown]

You of course mean influenced by fear. Reality, very simply, is I have never
had a virus but you for some reason don't believe that can be done.
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Oh, I realize that there's no chance of convincing "Unknown."
> He's clearly made up his mind and has no intention of being influenced
> by reality. I respond to him primarily so that the less experienced,
> new computer users won't be so easily "taken in" by his simplistic
> views; to let them see that his arbitrary pronouncements are not
> universally accepted.
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. - RAH
>
>
> "Joe Roberts" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Bruce,
> > There is no use trying to convince this "unknowing" person. He/she
> will have
> > to learn the hard way as many of us have in the past.
> >
> > --
> > Joe
> >
>
>

[Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)]

I don't believe you for one second. Now, go away!

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Unknown" > wrote in message
. ..
> You of course mean influenced by fear. Reality, very simply, is I have
never
> had a virus but you for some reason don't believe that can be done.
> "Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings --
> >
> > Oh, I realize that there's no chance of convincing "Unknown."
> > He's clearly made up his mind and has no intention of being influenced
> > by reality. I respond to him primarily so that the less experienced,
> > new computer users won't be so easily "taken in" by his simplistic
> > views; to let them see that his arbitrary pronouncements are not
> > universally accepted.
> >
> >
> > Bruce Chambers
> > --
> > Help us help you:
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> > having both at once. - RAH
> >
> >
> > "Joe Roberts" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > > Bruce,
> > > There is no use trying to convince this "unknowing" person. He/she
> > will have
> > > to learn the hard way as many of us have in the past.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Joe
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Box134]

And I've never had a dose of the clap.

"Unknown" > wrote in message
. ..
> You of course mean influenced by fear. Reality, very simply, is I have
never
> had a virus but you for some reason don't believe that can be done.