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OD Belkin Jon
July 13th 04, 07:56 AM
Anyone else running into this? You plug your xp home or pro computer into a router, all default settings, dhcp etc. Simple right? nope. when all the correct lights are on (on the router) when the cables are plugged in, and your local area network connectio
n properties show that dhcp is online, you have the correct dns, subnet and ip address, why in hell can you not ping without getting destination host unreachable, and not browse the net?

I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me any information you can to

Thank you!

Malke
July 13th 04, 10:20 AM
OD Belkin Jon wrote:

> Anyone else running into this? You plug your xp home or pro computer
> into a router, all default settings, dhcp etc. Simple right? nope.
> when all the correct lights are on (on the router) when the cables are
> plugged in, and your local area network connection properties show
> that dhcp is online, you have the correct dns, subnet and ip address,
> why in hell can you not ping without getting destination host
> unreachable, and not browse the net?
>
> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get
> online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send
> me any information you can to
>
> Thank you!

a. Third party firewall?
b. Wrong dns (check for typos)?
c. Have to sign on with username/password like some forms of pppoe and
the name/password is wrong?
d. Bad router? (can you get online when connected directly to the
cable/dsl modem (you didn't say what you have)
e. Any security settings such as limiting for MAC addresses?
f. Bad cable?
g. Viruses? Spyware?

You may be an expert, but you didn't really give us any usable
information about your Internet connection, your ISP, your system, your
network setup, if it ever worked, or what you've already done to
troubleshoot. Repost with details for more help.

Malke
--
MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
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Plato
July 13th 04, 10:48 AM
=?Utf-8?B?T0QgQmVsa2luIEpvbg==?= wrote:
>
> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me any information you can to

You dont seem to much of an expert on anything. The first hint was
bragging about your mcp. The second hint was requesting a reply via
email in a public forum.

Ross Durie
July 13th 04, 11:48 AM
Most 5 year olds could pass one paper to become an MCP.

--
Ross
"OD Belkin Jon" <OD Belkin > wrote in message
...
> Anyone else running into this? You plug your xp home or pro computer into
a router, all default settings, dhcp etc. Simple right? nope. when all the
correct lights are on (on the router) when the cables are plugged in, and
your local area network connection properties show that dhcp is online, you
have the correct dns, subnet and ip address, why in hell can you not ping
without getting destination host unreachable, and not browse the net?
>
> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get
online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me
any information you can to
>
> Thank you!

R. McCarty
July 13th 04, 12:52 PM
No - that's not the issue, the problem here is no Analytical thinking.

You can teach someone a process. You can't teach someone how
to Analyze and Diagnose, when the "Fixed" process doesn't work.
That takes intelligence and experience.

Unfortunately, MCP does not stand for "Mastering Complex Problems".
I've worked with dozens of individuals with Certification, that didn't
possess any real understanding of what they got at the "Pass or Don't pay"
seminars.

Many times a person with years of actual hands on experience can
run rings around the guy with a wall full of degrees and certificates.

Which is more useful, the guy who can tell you how it's supposed
to work - or the guy who can make it work. That's why so many
people who've been through the Phone support network eventually
end up here to get an answer to their question/problem.


"Ross Durie" > wrote in message
...
> Most 5 year olds could pass one paper to become an MCP.
>
> --
> Ross
> "OD Belkin Jon" <OD Belkin > wrote in message
> ...
>> Anyone else running into this? You plug your xp home or pro computer into
> a router, all default settings, dhcp etc. Simple right? nope. when all the
> correct lights are on (on the router) when the cables are plugged in, and
> your local area network connection properties show that dhcp is online,
> you
> have the correct dns, subnet and ip address, why in hell can you not ping
> without getting destination host unreachable, and not browse the net?
>>
>> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get
> online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me
> any information you can to
>>
>> Thank you!
>
>

Plato
July 15th 04, 07:54 PM
=?Utf-8?B?T0QgQmVsa2luIEpvbg==?= wrote:
>
> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me any information you can to

You dont seem to much of an expert on anything. The first hint was
bragging about your mcp. The second hint was requesting a reply via
email in a public forum.

Plato
July 15th 04, 07:54 PM
=?Utf-8?B?T0QgQmVsa2luIEpvbg==?= wrote:
>
> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me any information you can to

You dont seem to much of an expert on anything. The first hint was
bragging about your mcp. The second hint was requesting a reply via
email in a public forum.

Ross Durie
July 15th 04, 08:06 PM
Most 5 year olds could pass one paper to become an MCP.

--
Ross
"OD Belkin Jon" <OD Belkin > wrote in message
...
> Anyone else running into this? You plug your xp home or pro computer into
a router, all default settings, dhcp etc. Simple right? nope. when all the
correct lights are on (on the router) when the cables are plugged in, and
your local area network connection properties show that dhcp is online, you
have the correct dns, subnet and ip address, why in hell can you not ping
without getting destination host unreachable, and not browse the net?
>
> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get
online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me
any information you can to
>
> Thank you!

Ross Durie
July 15th 04, 08:06 PM
Most 5 year olds could pass one paper to become an MCP.

--
Ross
"OD Belkin Jon" <OD Belkin > wrote in message
...
> Anyone else running into this? You plug your xp home or pro computer into
a router, all default settings, dhcp etc. Simple right? nope. when all the
correct lights are on (on the router) when the cables are plugged in, and
your local area network connection properties show that dhcp is online, you
have the correct dns, subnet and ip address, why in hell can you not ping
without getting destination host unreachable, and not browse the net?
>
> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get
online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me
any information you can to
>
> Thank you!

R. McCarty
July 15th 04, 08:19 PM
No - that's not the issue, the problem here is no Analytical thinking.

You can teach someone a process. You can't teach someone how
to Analyze and Diagnose, when the "Fixed" process doesn't work.
That takes intelligence and experience.

Unfortunately, MCP does not stand for "Mastering Complex Problems".
I've worked with dozens of individuals with Certification, that didn't
possess any real understanding of what they got at the "Pass or Don't pay"
seminars.

Many times a person with years of actual hands on experience can
run rings around the guy with a wall full of degrees and certificates.

Which is more useful, the guy who can tell you how it's supposed
to work - or the guy who can make it work. That's why so many
people who've been through the Phone support network eventually
end up here to get an answer to their question/problem.


"Ross Durie" > wrote in message
...
> Most 5 year olds could pass one paper to become an MCP.
>
> --
> Ross
> "OD Belkin Jon" <OD Belkin > wrote in message
> ...
>> Anyone else running into this? You plug your xp home or pro computer into
> a router, all default settings, dhcp etc. Simple right? nope. when all the
> correct lights are on (on the router) when the cables are plugged in, and
> your local area network connection properties show that dhcp is online,
> you
> have the correct dns, subnet and ip address, why in hell can you not ping
> without getting destination host unreachable, and not browse the net?
>>
>> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get
> online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me
> any information you can to
>>
>> Thank you!
>
>

R. McCarty
July 15th 04, 08:19 PM
No - that's not the issue, the problem here is no Analytical thinking.

You can teach someone a process. You can't teach someone how
to Analyze and Diagnose, when the "Fixed" process doesn't work.
That takes intelligence and experience.

Unfortunately, MCP does not stand for "Mastering Complex Problems".
I've worked with dozens of individuals with Certification, that didn't
possess any real understanding of what they got at the "Pass or Don't pay"
seminars.

Many times a person with years of actual hands on experience can
run rings around the guy with a wall full of degrees and certificates.

Which is more useful, the guy who can tell you how it's supposed
to work - or the guy who can make it work. That's why so many
people who've been through the Phone support network eventually
end up here to get an answer to their question/problem.


"Ross Durie" > wrote in message
...
> Most 5 year olds could pass one paper to become an MCP.
>
> --
> Ross
> "OD Belkin Jon" <OD Belkin > wrote in message
> ...
>> Anyone else running into this? You plug your xp home or pro computer into
> a router, all default settings, dhcp etc. Simple right? nope. when all the
> correct lights are on (on the router) when the cables are plugged in, and
> your local area network connection properties show that dhcp is online,
> you
> have the correct dns, subnet and ip address, why in hell can you not ping
> without getting destination host unreachable, and not browse the net?
>>
>> I am an MCP and a networking specialist. You'd think I know how to get
> online.... Please, anyone who has heard/experienced this problem, send me
> any information you can to
>>
>> Thank you!
>
>

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