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June
August 17th 04, 06:27 PM
I have XP Home and already have Computer Associates EZ-trust firewall and
anti-virus on my home computer. Is the automatic update with SP-2 going to
work OK or I do I need to uninstall my firewall and virus before it
automatically updates with SP2 tomorrow? My router also has a firewall of
some sort built into it. While MS is giving business users information about
XP Professional and delaying the update for them, all they seem to say is
that few home users have firewalls so it doesn't matter about those of us
that have taken computer security seriously and do have it. Anybody have any
information about this?

Phil
August 17th 04, 07:16 PM
You'll get sp2 just fine with your current firewall and av program up and
running. If you want to keep using your firewall you'll have to turn the xp
one off and the alerts for it in the security center after sp2 installs.

"June" > wrote in message

> I have XP Home and already have Computer Associates EZ-trust firewall
> and anti-virus on my home computer. Is the automatic update with
> SP-2 going to work OK or I do I need to uninstall my firewall and
> virus before it automatically updates with SP2 tomorrow? My router
> also has a firewall of some sort built into it. While MS is giving
> business users information about XP Professional and delaying the
> update for them, all they seem to say is that few home users have
> firewalls so it doesn't matter about those of us that have taken
> computer security seriously and do have it. Anybody have any
> information about this?

Gerry Cornell
August 17th 04, 07:38 PM
June / Phil

You may find SP2 senses the existence of a third pary firewall and turns
itself off.

Q: How does Windows Security Center detect third-party products and their
status?
A: Windows Security Center uses a two-tiered approach for detection status.
One tier is manual, and the other tier is automatic through Windows
Management Instrumentation (WMI). In manual detection mode, Windows Security
Center searches for registry keys and files that are provided to Microsoft
by independent software manufacturers. These registry keys and files let
Windows Security Center detect the status of independent software. In WMI
mode, software manufacturers determine their own product status and report
that status back to Windows Security Center through a WMI provider. In both
modes, Windows Security Center tries to determine whether the following is
true:
An antivirus program is present.
The antivirus signatures are up-to-date.
Real-time scanning or on-access scanning is turned on for antivirus
programs.
For firewalls, Windows Security Center detects whether a third-party
firewall is installed and whether the firewall is turned on or not.

Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;883792&Product=winxp

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Phil" > wrote in message
...
> You'll get sp2 just fine with your current firewall and av program up and
> running. If you want to keep using your firewall you'll have to turn the
xp
> one off and the alerts for it in the security center after sp2 installs.
>
> "June" > wrote in message
>
> > I have XP Home and already have Computer Associates EZ-trust firewall
> > and anti-virus on my home computer. Is the automatic update with
> > SP-2 going to work OK or I do I need to uninstall my firewall and
> > virus before it automatically updates with SP2 tomorrow? My router
> > also has a firewall of some sort built into it. While MS is giving
> > business users information about XP Professional and delaying the
> > update for them, all they seem to say is that few home users have
> > firewalls so it doesn't matter about those of us that have taken
> > computer security seriously and do have it. Anybody have any
> > information about this?
>
>

Phil
August 17th 04, 07:59 PM
Do you have any info on what firewalls the security center does detect? I
know it doesn't do hardware firewalls and it doesn't see my zone alarm
either, so which ones and what versions? I haven't seen it work yet because
most computers I work on have za installed or a hardware firewall.

"Gerry Cornell" > wrote in message

> June / Phil
>
> You may find SP2 senses the existence of a third pary firewall and
> turns itself off.
>
> Q: How does Windows Security Center detect third-party products and
> their status?
> A: Windows Security Center uses a two-tiered approach for detection
> status. One tier is manual, and the other tier is automatic through
> Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI). In manual detection mode,
> Windows Security Center searches for registry keys and files that are
> provided to Microsoft by independent software manufacturers. These
> registry keys and files let Windows Security Center detect the status
> of independent software. In WMI mode, software manufacturers
> determine their own product status and report that status back to
> Windows Security Center through a WMI provider. In both modes,
> Windows Security Center tries to determine whether the following is
> true:
> An antivirus program is present.
> The antivirus signatures are up-to-date.
> Real-time scanning or on-access scanning is turned on for antivirus
> programs.
> For firewalls, Windows Security Center detects whether a third-party
> firewall is installed and whether the firewall is turned on or not.
>
> Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;883792&Product=winxp
>
>
> "Phil" > wrote in message
> ...
>> You'll get sp2 just fine with your current firewall and av program
>> up and running. If you want to keep using your firewall you'll have
>> to turn the xp one off and the alerts for it in the security center
>> after sp2 installs.
>>
>> "June" > wrote in message
>>
>>> I have XP Home and already have Computer Associates EZ-trust
>>> firewall and anti-virus on my home computer. Is the automatic
>>> update with SP-2 going to work OK or I do I need to uninstall my
>>> firewall and virus before it automatically updates with SP2
>>> tomorrow? My router also has a firewall of some sort built into
>>> it. While MS is giving business users information about XP
>>> Professional and delaying the update for them, all they seem to say
>>> is that few home users have firewalls so it doesn't matter about
>>> those of us that have taken computer security seriously and do have
>>> it. Anybody have any information about this?

Mark Weinreb
August 17th 04, 11:03 PM
SP2's security centre correctly detects ZA version 5.1.011 and ZA Pro
version 5.1.011.


"Phil" > wrote in message
...
> Do you have any info on what firewalls the security center does detect? I
> know it doesn't do hardware firewalls and it doesn't see my zone alarm
> either, so which ones and what versions? I haven't seen it work yet
> because most computers I work on have za installed or a hardware firewall.
>
> "Gerry Cornell" > wrote in message
>
>> June / Phil
>>
>> You may find SP2 senses the existence of a third pary firewall and
>> turns itself off.
>>
>> Q: How does Windows Security Center detect third-party products and
>> their status?
>> A: Windows Security Center uses a two-tiered approach for detection
>> status. One tier is manual, and the other tier is automatic through
>> Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI). In manual detection mode,
>> Windows Security Center searches for registry keys and files that are
>> provided to Microsoft by independent software manufacturers. These
>> registry keys and files let Windows Security Center detect the status
>> of independent software. In WMI mode, software manufacturers
>> determine their own product status and report that status back to
>> Windows Security Center through a WMI provider. In both modes,
>> Windows Security Center tries to determine whether the following is
>> true:
>> An antivirus program is present.
>> The antivirus signatures are up-to-date.
>> Real-time scanning or on-access scanning is turned on for antivirus
>> programs.
>> For firewalls, Windows Security Center detects whether a third-party
>> firewall is installed and whether the firewall is turned on or not.
>>
>> Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;883792&Product=winxp
>>
>>
>> "Phil" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> You'll get sp2 just fine with your current firewall and av program
>>> up and running. If you want to keep using your firewall you'll have
>>> to turn the xp one off and the alerts for it in the security center
>>> after sp2 installs.
>>>
>>> "June" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> I have XP Home and already have Computer Associates EZ-trust
>>>> firewall and anti-virus on my home computer. Is the automatic
>>>> update with SP-2 going to work OK or I do I need to uninstall my
>>>> firewall and virus before it automatically updates with SP2
>>>> tomorrow? My router also has a firewall of some sort built into
>>>> it. While MS is giving business users information about XP
>>>> Professional and delaying the update for them, all they seem to say
>>>> is that few home users have firewalls so it doesn't matter about
>>>> those of us that have taken computer security seriously and do have
>>>> it. Anybody have any information about this?
>
>

Gerry Cornell
August 17th 04, 11:05 PM
I don't know. Do you have the latest version of Zone Alarm?

--

~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
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"Phil" > wrote in message
...
> Do you have any info on what firewalls the security center does detect? I
> know it doesn't do hardware firewalls and it doesn't see my zone alarm
> either, so which ones and what versions? I haven't seen it work yet
because
> most computers I work on have za installed or a hardware firewall.
>
> "Gerry Cornell" > wrote in message
>
> > June / Phil
> >
> > You may find SP2 senses the existence of a third pary firewall and
> > turns itself off.
> >
> > Q: How does Windows Security Center detect third-party products and
> > their status?
> > A: Windows Security Center uses a two-tiered approach for detection
> > status. One tier is manual, and the other tier is automatic through
> > Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI). In manual detection mode,
> > Windows Security Center searches for registry keys and files that are
> > provided to Microsoft by independent software manufacturers. These
> > registry keys and files let Windows Security Center detect the status
> > of independent software. In WMI mode, software manufacturers
> > determine their own product status and report that status back to
> > Windows Security Center through a WMI provider. In both modes,
> > Windows Security Center tries to determine whether the following is
> > true:
> > An antivirus program is present.
> > The antivirus signatures are up-to-date.
> > Real-time scanning or on-access scanning is turned on for antivirus
> > programs.
> > For firewalls, Windows Security Center detects whether a third-party
> > firewall is installed and whether the firewall is turned on or not.
> >
> > Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
> >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;883792&Product=winxp
> >
> >
> > "Phil" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> You'll get sp2 just fine with your current firewall and av program
> >> up and running. If you want to keep using your firewall you'll have
> >> to turn the xp one off and the alerts for it in the security center
> >> after sp2 installs.
> >>
> >> "June" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> I have XP Home and already have Computer Associates EZ-trust
> >>> firewall and anti-virus on my home computer. Is the automatic
> >>> update with SP-2 going to work OK or I do I need to uninstall my
> >>> firewall and virus before it automatically updates with SP2
> >>> tomorrow? My router also has a firewall of some sort built into
> >>> it. While MS is giving business users information about XP
> >>> Professional and delaying the update for them, all they seem to say
> >>> is that few home users have firewalls so it doesn't matter about
> >>> those of us that have taken computer security seriously and do have
> >>> it. Anybody have any information about this?
>
>

Phil
August 18th 04, 12:38 AM
I have 5.0.590.015. I guess it's time to update it.

"Gerry Cornell" > wrote in message

> I don't know. Do you have the latest version of Zone Alarm?
>
>
> "Phil" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Do you have any info on what firewalls the security center does
>> detect? I know it doesn't do hardware firewalls and it doesn't see
>> my zone alarm either, so which ones and what versions? I haven't
>> seen it work yet because most computers I work on have za installed
>> or a hardware firewall.
>>
>> "Gerry Cornell" > wrote in message
>>
>>> June / Phil
>>>
>>> You may find SP2 senses the existence of a third pary firewall and
>>> turns itself off.
>>>
>>> Q: How does Windows Security Center detect third-party products and
>>> their status?
>>> A: Windows Security Center uses a two-tiered approach for detection
>>> status. One tier is manual, and the other tier is automatic through
>>> Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI). In manual detection mode,
>>> Windows Security Center searches for registry keys and files that
>>> are provided to Microsoft by independent software manufacturers.
>>> These registry keys and files let Windows Security Center detect
>>> the status of independent software. In WMI mode, software
>>> manufacturers determine their own product status and report that
>>> status back to Windows Security Center through a WMI provider. In
>>> both modes, Windows Security Center tries to determine whether the
>>> following is true:
>>> An antivirus program is present.
>>> The antivirus signatures are up-to-date.
>>> Real-time scanning or on-access scanning is turned on for antivirus
>>> programs.
>>> For firewalls, Windows Security Center detects whether a third-party
>>> firewall is installed and whether the firewall is turned on or not.
>>>
>>> Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
>>>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;883792&Product=winxp
>>>
>>>
>>> "Phil" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> You'll get sp2 just fine with your current firewall and av program
>>>> up and running. If you want to keep using your firewall you'll have
>>>> to turn the xp one off and the alerts for it in the security center
>>>> after sp2 installs.
>>>>
>>>> "June" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> I have XP Home and already have Computer Associates EZ-trust
>>>>> firewall and anti-virus on my home computer. Is the automatic
>>>>> update with SP-2 going to work OK or I do I need to uninstall my
>>>>> firewall and virus before it automatically updates with SP2
>>>>> tomorrow? My router also has a firewall of some sort built into
>>>>> it. While MS is giving business users information about XP
>>>>> Professional and delaying the update for them, all they seem to
>>>>> say is that few home users have firewalls so it doesn't matter
>>>>> about those of us that have taken computer security seriously and
>>>>> do have it. Anybody have any information about this?

Phil
August 18th 04, 12:38 AM
Thanks. I have za pro 5.0.590.015. I guess it's time to update it.


"Mark Weinreb" > wrote in message

> SP2's security centre correctly detects ZA version 5.1.011 and ZA Pro
> version 5.1.011.
>
>
> "Phil" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Do you have any info on what firewalls the security center does
>> detect? I know it doesn't do hardware firewalls and it doesn't see
>> my zone alarm either, so which ones and what versions? I haven't
>> seen it work yet because most computers I work on have za installed
>> or a hardware firewall. "Gerry Cornell" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>>> June / Phil
>>>
>>> You may find SP2 senses the existence of a third pary firewall and
>>> turns itself off.
>>>
>>> Q: How does Windows Security Center detect third-party products and
>>> their status?
>>> A: Windows Security Center uses a two-tiered approach for detection
>>> status. One tier is manual, and the other tier is automatic through
>>> Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI). In manual detection mode,
>>> Windows Security Center searches for registry keys and files that
>>> are provided to Microsoft by independent software manufacturers.
>>> These registry keys and files let Windows Security Center detect
>>> the status of independent software. In WMI mode, software
>>> manufacturers determine their own product status and report that
>>> status back to Windows Security Center through a WMI provider. In
>>> both modes, Windows Security Center tries to determine whether the
>>> following is true:
>>> An antivirus program is present.
>>> The antivirus signatures are up-to-date.
>>> Real-time scanning or on-access scanning is turned on for antivirus
>>> programs.
>>> For firewalls, Windows Security Center detects whether a third-party
>>> firewall is installed and whether the firewall is turned on or not.
>>>
>>> Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;883792&Product=winxp
>>>
>>>
>>> "Phil" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> You'll get sp2 just fine with your current firewall and av program
>>>> up and running. If you want to keep using your firewall you'll have
>>>> to turn the xp one off and the alerts for it in the security center
>>>> after sp2 installs.
>>>>
>>>> "June" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> I have XP Home and already have Computer Associates EZ-trust
>>>>> firewall and anti-virus on my home computer. Is the automatic
>>>>> update with SP-2 going to work OK or I do I need to uninstall my
>>>>> firewall and virus before it automatically updates with SP2
>>>>> tomorrow? My router also has a firewall of some sort built into
>>>>> it. While MS is giving business users information about XP
>>>>> Professional and delaying the update for them, all they seem to
>>>>> say is that few home users have firewalls so it doesn't matter
>>>>> about those of us that have taken computer security seriously and
>>>>> do have it. Anybody have any information about this?

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