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roaf
August 17th 04, 05:21 PM
I am trying to net work my notebook and desktop. I also
want to make my HP 6110 all-in-one a shared printer. I
am using a Belkin 4 port router. Both computers are able
to access the internet via the router but they can not
access each other's shared folders and the notebook can't
print to the HP. The network wizard can't seem to find
all the devices/drives. Here are the specs...


The Desktop is running XP Home and the HP is connected
dircetly to it via USB. The Desktop is connected via
Ethernet to the router.
The notebook is runnign XP Professional and is connected
to the router via Ethernet. The notebook has another
printer connected to it via USB which I would also like
to connect to the network if possible (its a Dell 720).

I checked the FAQs and help files on the network wizard
but I keep running into dead ends.

Any thoughts on how to proceed?

Thank you.

Roaf

Steve Winograd [MVP]
August 17th 04, 07:32 PM
In article >, "roaf"
> wrote:
>I am trying to net work my notebook and desktop. I also
>want to make my HP 6110 all-in-one a shared printer. I
>am using a Belkin 4 port router. Both computers are able
>to access the internet via the router but they can not
>access each other's shared folders and the notebook can't
>print to the HP. The network wizard can't seem to find
>all the devices/drives. Here are the specs...
>
>
>The Desktop is running XP Home and the HP is connected
>dircetly to it via USB. The Desktop is connected via
>Ethernet to the router.
>The notebook is runnign XP Professional and is connected
>to the router via Ethernet. The notebook has another
>printer connected to it via USB which I would also like
>to connect to the network if possible (its a Dell 720).
>
>I checked the FAQs and help files on the network wizard
>but I keep running into dead ends.
>
>Any thoughts on how to proceed?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Roaf

1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on
local area network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem
connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all other firewall
programs while troubleshooting. When un-installing a firewall
program, use the un-install procedure provided by the manufacturer .
Don't use Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs, which might not
completely un-install it.

For more information, see:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Tom
August 17th 04, 07:35 PM
Hi,
check if your desktop and notebook are on the same
workgroup. If I'm not mistaken XP home's default workgroup
is MSHome and XP Pro's Workgroup. Change one them to
another. Make sure file sharing is enabled on both of them
and sharing is enabled on HP printer properties.
I'd connect these printers directly to the router if they
have network ports available. If they are: in the printer
menu you should find an option to assign an IP and
subnet. Assign the same range of IP and sub. Then you have
to reinstall the printer driver selecting the
option "connected directly to network".
cheers,

>-----Original Message-----
>I am trying to net work my notebook and desktop. I also
>want to make my HP 6110 all-in-one a shared printer. I
>am using a Belkin 4 port router. Both computers are able
>to access the internet via the router but they can not
>access each other's shared folders and the notebook can't
>print to the HP. The network wizard can't seem to find
>all the devices/drives. Here are the specs...
>
>
>The Desktop is running XP Home and the HP is connected
>dircetly to it via USB. The Desktop is connected via
>Ethernet to the router.
>The notebook is runnign XP Professional and is connected
>to the router via Ethernet. The notebook has another
>printer connected to it via USB which I would also like
>to connect to the network if possible (its a Dell 720).
>
>I checked the FAQs and help files on the network wizard
>but I keep running into dead ends.
>
>Any thoughts on how to proceed?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Roaf
>.
>

N
August 18th 04, 11:14 PM
not dear the default workgroup name in winxp is mshome......
"Tom" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
> check if your desktop and notebook are on the same
> workgroup. If I'm not mistaken XP home's default workgroup
> is MSHome and XP Pro's Workgroup. Change one them to
> another. Make sure file sharing is enabled on both of them
> and sharing is enabled on HP printer properties.
> I'd connect these printers directly to the router if they
> have network ports available. If they are: in the printer
> menu you should find an option to assign an IP and
> subnet. Assign the same range of IP and sub. Then you have
> to reinstall the printer driver selecting the
> option "connected directly to network".
> cheers,
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I am trying to net work my notebook and desktop. I also
> >want to make my HP 6110 all-in-one a shared printer. I
> >am using a Belkin 4 port router. Both computers are able
> >to access the internet via the router but they can not
> >access each other's shared folders and the notebook can't
> >print to the HP. The network wizard can't seem to find
> >all the devices/drives. Here are the specs...
> >
> >
> >The Desktop is running XP Home and the HP is connected
> >dircetly to it via USB. The Desktop is connected via
> >Ethernet to the router.
> >The notebook is runnign XP Professional and is connected
> >to the router via Ethernet. The notebook has another
> >printer connected to it via USB which I would also like
> >to connect to the network if possible (its a Dell 720).
> >
> >I checked the FAQs and help files on the network wizard
> >but I keep running into dead ends.
> >
> >Any thoughts on how to proceed?
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >Roaf
> >.
> >

Eskimo
August 19th 04, 05:55 AM
actually He's right the default in home is MSHome. The default in pro is
Workgroup. I know it's starting to bug me haveing to change it all of the time

"N" wrote:

> not dear the default workgroup name in winxp is mshome......
> "Tom" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> > check if your desktop and notebook are on the same
> > workgroup. If I'm not mistaken XP home's default workgroup
> > is MSHome and XP Pro's Workgroup. Change one them to
> > another. Make sure file sharing is enabled on both of them
> > and sharing is enabled on HP printer properties.
> > I'd connect these printers directly to the router if they
> > have network ports available. If they are: in the printer
> > menu you should find an option to assign an IP and
> > subnet. Assign the same range of IP and sub. Then you have
> > to reinstall the printer driver selecting the
> > option "connected directly to network".
> > cheers,
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I am trying to net work my notebook and desktop. I also
> > >want to make my HP 6110 all-in-one a shared printer. I
> > >am using a Belkin 4 port router. Both computers are able
> > >to access the internet via the router but they can not
> > >access each other's shared folders and the notebook can't
> > >print to the HP. The network wizard can't seem to find
> > >all the devices/drives. Here are the specs...
> > >
> > >
> > >The Desktop is running XP Home and the HP is connected
> > >dircetly to it via USB. The Desktop is connected via
> > >Ethernet to the router.
> > >The notebook is runnign XP Professional and is connected
> > >to the router via Ethernet. The notebook has another
> > >printer connected to it via USB which I would also like
> > >to connect to the network if possible (its a Dell 720).
> > >
> > >I checked the FAQs and help files on the network wizard
> > >but I keep running into dead ends.
> > >
> > >Any thoughts on how to proceed?
> > >
> > >Thank you.
> > >
> > >Roaf
> > >.
> > >
>
>
>

N
August 19th 04, 06:02 AM
default workgroup in winxp pro is MSHOME

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