General SP2 question

[Retired]

Once SP2 is installed, will it be necessary to still have a third party (Zone
Alarm, Norton, etc) firewall and if so, will it be necessary to disable the
XP firewall?

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

WinXP's built-in firewall is _adequate_ at stopping incoming
attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP also
does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or
someone else using your computer) might download and install
inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other
than to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you
about) the bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that
any application you have on your hard drive is there because you want
it there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet.
Further, because the ICF is a "stateful" firewall, it will also assume
that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a Trojan's or
spyware's out-going signal is also authorized.

ZoneAlarm, Kerio, or Sygate are all much better than WinXP's
built-in firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are
free versions of each readily available. Even the commercially
available Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far,
although it does take a heavier toll of system performance then do
ZoneAlarm or Sygate.


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"Retired" > wrote in message
...
> Once SP2 is installed, will it be necessary to still have a third
> party (Zone
> Alarm, Norton, etc) firewall and if so, will it be necessary to
> disable the
> XP firewall?

[Will Denny]

Hi

The XP Firewall only monitors access to your PC, not outgoing access to the
Internet. A 3rd party '2-way' Firewall would be better. When you have
installed the 3rd party Firewall you can then disable the XP Firewall.

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"Retired" > wrote in message
...
> Once SP2 is installed, will it be necessary to still have a third party
> (Zone
> Alarm, Norton, etc) firewall and if so, will it be necessary to disable
> the
> XP firewall?

[Jack]

Thanks Bruce for the detailed reply. Does this mean then that the XP
firewall should be disabled....or can they work together?

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> Greetings --
>
> WinXP's built-in firewall is _adequate_ at stopping incoming
> attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP also
> does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or
> someone else using your computer) might download and install
> inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other
> than to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you
> about) the bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that
> any application you have on your hard drive is there because you want
> it there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet.
> Further, because the ICF is a "stateful" firewall, it will also assume
> that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a Trojan's or
> spyware's out-going signal is also authorized.
>
> ZoneAlarm, Kerio, or Sygate are all much better than WinXP's
> built-in firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are
> free versions of each readily available. Even the commercially
> available Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far,
> although it does take a heavier toll of system performance then do
> ZoneAlarm or Sygate.
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. - RAH
>
>
> "Retired" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Once SP2 is installed, will it be necessary to still have a third
> > party (Zone
> > Alarm, Norton, etc) firewall and if so, will it be necessary to
> > disable the
> > XP firewall?
>
>
>

[Paul.Woodsford]

No problem running XPSP2 firewall + ZA Pro ver 5.1.011.000, nor on a 2nd PC
running ZA Free ver 4


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"Jack" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Bruce for the detailed reply. Does this mean then that the XP
> firewall should be disabled....or can they work together?
>
> "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
>
>> Greetings --
>>
>> WinXP's built-in firewall is _adequate_ at stopping incoming
>> attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP also
>> does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you (or
>> someone else using your computer) might download and install
>> inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other
>> than to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you
>> about) the bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes that
>> any application you have on your hard drive is there because you want
>> it there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the Internet.
>> Further, because the ICF is a "stateful" firewall, it will also assume
>> that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a Trojan's or
>> spyware's out-going signal is also authorized.
>>
>> ZoneAlarm, Kerio, or Sygate are all much better than WinXP's
>> built-in firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there are
>> free versions of each readily available. Even the commercially
>> available Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far,
>> although it does take a heavier toll of system performance then do
>> ZoneAlarm or Sygate.
>>
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>> --
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
>> having both at once. - RAH
>>
>>
>> "Retired" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Once SP2 is installed, will it be necessary to still have a third
>> > party (Zone
>> > Alarm, Norton, etc) firewall and if so, will it be necessary to
>> > disable the
>> > XP firewall?
>>
>>
>>


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[Mary]

Good feature of the sp2 firewall is it will shut off if Zone Alarm Pro
5.1.011 is started and turn back on if ZA is turned off. No user intervention
required.

"Will Denny" wrote:

> Hi
>
> The XP Firewall only monitors access to your PC, not outgoing access to the
> Internet. A 3rd party '2-way' Firewall would be better. When you have
> installed the 3rd party Firewall you can then disable the XP Firewall.
>
> --
>
> Will Denny
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> Please reply to the News Groups
>
>
> "Retired" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Once SP2 is installed, will it be necessary to still have a third party
> > (Zone
> > Alarm, Norton, etc) firewall and if so, will it be necessary to disable
> > the
> > XP firewall?
>
>
>

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

You're welcome. SP2's Windows Firewall is intended to complement
3rd-party firewalls, so it won't hurt anything to leave it enabled
whilst using another software firewall, but it also won't do much
good, except as extra "insurance."

Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Jack" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Bruce for the detailed reply. Does this mean then that the
> XP
> firewall should be disabled....or can they work together?
>
> "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
>
>> Greetings --
>>
>> WinXP's built-in firewall is _adequate_ at stopping incoming
>> attacks, and hiding your ports from probes. What WinXP also
>> does not do, is protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you
>> (or
>> someone else using your computer) might download and install
>> inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all, other
>> than to check for IP-spoofing, much less block (or at even ask you
>> about) the bad or the questionable out-going signals. It assumes
>> that
>> any application you have on your hard drive is there because you
>> want
>> it there, and therefore has your "permission" to access the
>> Internet.
>> Further, because the ICF is a "stateful" firewall, it will also
>> assume
>> that any incoming traffic that's a direct response to a Trojan's or
>> spyware's out-going signal is also authorized.
>>
>> ZoneAlarm, Kerio, or Sygate are all much better than WinXP's
>> built-in firewall, and are much more easily configured, and there
>> are
>> free versions of each readily available. Even the commercially
>> available Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior by far,
>> although it does take a heavier toll of system performance then do
>> ZoneAlarm or Sygate.
>>
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>> --
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
>> having both at once. - RAH
>>
>>
>> "Retired" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Once SP2 is installed, will it be necessary to still have a third
>> > party (Zone
>> > Alarm, Norton, etc) firewall and if so, will it be necessary to
>> > disable the
>> > XP firewall?
>>
>>
>>