PPPoE and WiFi Router

[Kelvin]

Folks, need your advise...

I have a PC with XP and running PPPoE to access internet. There is no ADSL
modem or whatsoever in my home.... just an ethernet cable. In China, the set
up is certainly different from US.

I used to need to dial PPPoE from my PC (with XP). I set it up with the
network wizard.

Now I installed a Linksys WiFi router. The Router will dial the PPPoE
directly. In that sense, my PC (with XP) should be able to connect to the
Router without having to dial PPPoE, right? But every time I launch IE, it
requires me to connect thru PPPoE again. I have other problems as reported in
other posting.....

Do I still need to authenticate via the PPPoE from my PC? or don't I need to
do it (since the Router does it all)? How could I set the network wizard on
my XP PC so that I do not need to go thru that PPPoE connect icon?

My other PC running Win2000, I could just plug it in to the Router and get
to internet instantaneouosly without have to do any dialing or connecting.
How could I set up the PC with XP to do the same?

Kelvin

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

In article >,
Kelvin > wrote:
>Folks, need your advise...
>
>I have a PC with XP and running PPPoE to access internet. There is no ADSL
>modem or whatsoever in my home.... just an ethernet cable. In China, the set
>up is certainly different from US.
>
>I used to need to dial PPPoE from my PC (with XP). I set it up with the
>network wizard.
>
>Now I installed a Linksys WiFi router. The Router will dial the PPPoE
>directly. In that sense, my PC (with XP) should be able to connect to the
>Router without having to dial PPPoE, right? But every time I launch IE, it
>requires me to connect thru PPPoE again. I have other problems as reported in
>other posting.....
>
>Do I still need to authenticate via the PPPoE from my PC? or don't I need to
>do it (since the Router does it all)? How could I set the network wizard on
>my XP PC so that I do not need to go thru that PPPoE connect icon?
>
>My other PC running Win2000, I could just plug it in to the Router and get
>to internet instantaneouosly without have to do any dialing or connecting.
>How could I set up the PC with XP to do the same?
>
>Kelvin

Since your router dials the PPPoE connection and authenticates with
your ISP, your computer doesn't need to do those things. To stop IE
from trying to dial, click Tools | Internet Options | Connections and
select "Never dial a connection".

If you run the Network Setup Wizard, tell it that your computer
connects to the Internet through a residential gateway (router).
--
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[Kelvin]

Steve, thanks for the advise.

I did set it to "Never dial a connection", but then IE
will just stay blank.... until I invoke the connection to
connect the PPPoE.

Could I just remove the PPPoE connection setting in
the "Dial-up and VPN settings" part at all?

Kelvin

>-----Original Message-----
>In article <830C24DC-D57C-4E2C-9CE7-
>,
>Kelvin > wrote:
>>Folks, need your advise...
>>
>>I have a PC with XP and running PPPoE to access
internet. There is no ADSL
>>modem or whatsoever in my home.... just an ethernet
cable. In China, the set
>>up is certainly different from US.
>>
>>I used to need to dial PPPoE from my PC (with XP). I
set it up with the
>>network wizard.
>>
>>Now I installed a Linksys WiFi router. The Router will
dial the PPPoE
>>directly. In that sense, my PC (with XP) should be able
to connect to the
>>Router without having to dial PPPoE, right? But every
time I launch IE, it
>>requires me to connect thru PPPoE again. I have other
problems as reported in
>>other posting.....
>>
>>Do I still need to authenticate via the PPPoE from my
PC? or don't I need to
>>do it (since the Router does it all)? How could I set
the network wizard on
>>my XP PC so that I do not need to go thru that PPPoE
connect icon?
>>
>>My other PC running Win2000, I could just plug it in to
the Router and get
>>to internet instantaneouosly without have to do any
dialing or connecting.
>>How could I set up the PC with XP to do the same?
>>
>>Kelvin
>
>Since your router dials the PPPoE connection and
authenticates with
>your ISP, your computer doesn't need to do those
things. To stop IE
>from trying to dial, click Tools | Internet Options |
Connections and
>select "Never dial a connection".
>
>If you run the Network Setup Wizard, tell it that your
computer
>connects to the Internet through a residential gateway
(router).
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>.
>

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

In article >, "Kelvin"
> wrote:
>>>I have a PC with XP and running PPPoE to access internet. There is no ADSL
>>>modem or whatsoever in my home.... just an ethernet cable. In China, the set
>>>up is certainly different from US.
>>>
>>>I used to need to dial PPPoE from my PC (with XP). I set it up with the
>>>network wizard.
>>>
>>>Now I installed a Linksys WiFi router. The Router will dial the PPPoE
>>>directly. In that sense, my PC (with XP) should be able to connect to the
>>>Router without having to dial PPPoE, right? But every time I launch IE, it
>>>requires me to connect thru PPPoE again. I have other problems as reported in
>>>other posting.....
>>>
>>>Do I still need to authenticate via the PPPoE from my PC? or don't I need to
>>>do it (since the Router does it all)? How could I set the network wizard on
>>>my XP PC so that I do not need to go thru that PPPoE connect icon?
>>>
>>>My other PC running Win2000, I could just plug it in to the Router and get
>>>to internet instantaneouosly without have to do any dialing or connecting.
>>>How could I set up the PC with XP to do the same?
>>
>>Since your router dials the PPPoE connection and authenticates with
>>your ISP, your computer doesn't need to do those things. To stop IE
>>from trying to dial, click Tools | Internet Options | Connections and
>>select "Never dial a connection".
>>
>>If you run the Network Setup Wizard, tell it that your computer
>>connects to the Internet through a residential gateway (router).
>Steve, thanks for the advise.
>
>I did set it to "Never dial a connection", but then IE
>will just stay blank.... until I invoke the connection to
>connect the PPPoE.
>
>Could I just remove the PPPoE connection setting in
>the "Dial-up and VPN settings" part at all?
>
>Kelvin

If your router is making the PPPoE connection, then your computer
doesn't have to -- the computer connects to the Internet through a LAN
connection to your router. Your computer doesn't know or care how the
router connects to the Internet.

You can remove the PPPoE connection from your computer. However, it
shouldn't be necessary. Something doesn't sound right about your
setup if IE won't connect until you invoke the PPPoE connection.

What is the name of the PPPoE connection? If it's the Internet
Gateway, then it's not a PPPoE connection. It's your router, and
invoking it tells the router to connect to the Internet.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Kelvin]

Steve,

Yes, I am having "unknown" problems in the IE and internet settings as
reported in other postings.

Back to the PPPoE setting, I am running XP Home. So, when I Make a New
Connection via Network Setup Wizard, I will select the option to make a
connection that requires login and password. And then I fill in the login and
password info, name it "Broadband" and that connection is automatically set
to PPPoE (from the Networking tab of the Properties of that connection icon).

I did try to select the option during Network Setup Wizard that "no password
is needed", but then the Network Setup Wizard just stops (I guess it
completes the task without creating a connection icon).

I did not find anywhere about "connects to the Internet through a
residential gateway (router)".

Kelvin

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article >, "Kelvin"
> > wrote:
> >>>I have a PC with XP and running PPPoE to access internet. There is no ADSL
> >>>modem or whatsoever in my home.... just an ethernet cable. In China, the set
> >>>up is certainly different from US.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Do I still need to authenticate via the PPPoE from my PC? or don't I need to
> >>>do it (since the Router does it all)? How could I set the network wizard on
> >>>my XP PC so that I do not need to go thru that PPPoE connect icon?
> >>>
> >>>My other PC running Win2000, I could just plug it in to the Router and get
> >>>to internet instantaneouosly without have to do any dialing or connecting.
> >>>How could I set up the PC with XP to do the same?
> >>
> >>Since your router dials the PPPoE connection and authenticates with
> >>your ISP, your computer doesn't need to do those things. To stop IE
> >>from trying to dial, click Tools | Internet Options | Connections and
> >>select "Never dial a connection".
> >>
> >>If you run the Network Setup Wizard, tell it that your computer
> >>connects to the Internet through a residential gateway (router).
> >Steve, thanks for the advise.
> >
> >I did set it to "Never dial a connection", but then IE
> >will just stay blank.... until I invoke the connection to
> >connect the PPPoE.
> >
> >Could I just remove the PPPoE connection setting in
> >the "Dial-up and VPN settings" part at all?
> >
> >Kelvin
>
> If your router is making the PPPoE connection, then your computer
> doesn't have to -- the computer connects to the Internet through a LAN
> connection to your router. Your computer doesn't know or care how the
> router connects to the Internet.
>
> You can remove the PPPoE connection from your computer. However, it
> shouldn't be necessary. Something doesn't sound right about your
> setup if IE won't connect until you invoke the PPPoE connection.
>
> What is the name of the PPPoE connection? If it's the Internet
> Gateway, then it's not a PPPoE connection. It's your router, and
> invoking it tells the router to connect to the Internet.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>

>

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

In article >,
Kelvin > wrote:
>Steve,
>
>Yes, I am having "unknown" problems in the IE and internet settings as
>reported in other postings.
>
>Back to the PPPoE setting, I am running XP Home. So, when I Make a New
>Connection via Network Setup Wizard, I will select the option to make a
>connection that requires login and password. And then I fill in the login and
>password info, name it "Broadband" and that connection is automatically set
>to PPPoE (from the Networking tab of the Properties of that connection icon).
>
>I did try to select the option during Network Setup Wizard that "no password
>is needed", but then the Network Setup Wizard just stops (I guess it
>completes the task without creating a connection icon).
>
>I did not find anywhere about "connects to the Internet through a
>residential gateway (router)".
>
>Kelvin

Your computer doesn't connect to the Internet through a connection
that requires login and password. It connects to the Internet through
a residential gateway (router). Delete the PPPoE connection.

The fact that the router uses PPPoE is irrelevant when setting up your
computer for Internet access. Your computer's setup would be the same
if the router used PPPoE, other types of DSL, a cable modem,
satellite, or any other type of broadband connection.

Run the Network Setup Wizard. If it tells you that it found a shared
Internet connection, tell it to use the existing shared Internet
connection. Otherwise, tell it "This computer connects to the
Internet through another computer on my network or through a
residential gateway".
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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[Kelvin]

Steve,

I ran the Network Setup Wizard, and at the very last step, a Window Erorr
message pop up saying "The Spooler Subsystem App encounters a problem....",
and then the Wizard failed.

What's wrong?

But the internet seems fine. I am now accessing the internet not via PPPoE,
but just straight Local Area Connection.

Kelvin

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article >,
> Kelvin > wrote:
> >Steve,
> >
> >Yes, I am having "unknown" problems in the IE and internet settings as
> >reported in other postings.
> >
> >Back to the PPPoE setting, I am running XP Home. So, when I Make a New
> >Connection via Network Setup Wizard, I will select the option to make a
> >connection that requires login and password. And then I fill in the login and
> >password info, name it "Broadband" and that connection is automatically set
> >to PPPoE (from the Networking tab of the Properties of that connection icon).
> >
> >I did try to select the option during Network Setup Wizard that "no password
> >is needed", but then the Network Setup Wizard just stops (I guess it
> >completes the task without creating a connection icon).
> >
> >I did not find anywhere about "connects to the Internet through a
> >residential gateway (router)".
> >
> >Kelvin
>
> Your computer doesn't connect to the Internet through a connection
> that requires login and password. It connects to the Internet through
> a residential gateway (router). Delete the PPPoE connection.
>
> The fact that the router uses PPPoE is irrelevant when setting up your
> computer for Internet access. Your computer's setup would be the same
> if the router used PPPoE, other types of DSL, a cable modem,
> satellite, or any other type of broadband connection.
>
> Run the Network Setup Wizard. If it tells you that it found a shared
> Internet connection, tell it to use the existing shared Internet
> connection. Otherwise, tell it "This computer connects to the
> Internet through another computer on my network or through a
> residential gateway".
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

In article >,
Kelvin > wrote:
>> Run the Network Setup Wizard. If it tells you that it found a shared
>> Internet connection, tell it to use the existing shared Internet
>> connection. Otherwise, tell it "This computer connects to the
>> Internet through another computer on my network or through a
>> residential gateway".
>
>Steve,
>
>I ran the Network Setup Wizard, and at the very last step, a Window Erorr
>message pop up saying "The Spooler Subsystem App encounters a problem....",
>and then the Wizard failed.
>
>What's wrong?
>
>But the internet seems fine. I am now accessing the internet not via PPPoE,
>but just straight Local Area Connection.
>
>Kelvin

Since Internet access is working, I don't think that you need to do
anything.

I don't know why the Wizard gets that message. If you run the Wizard
again, a likely fix is:

1. Before running the Wizard, enter this line in the Start | Run box:

net stop spooler

2. After running the Wizard, enter this line in the Start | Run box:

net start spooler
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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