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Robert Roch
September 5th 04, 10:25 AM
I have two XP (SP1) computers joined with a wire and
ethernet cards. The computers are trying to communicate
with each other as they both go "online"

I am not allowed to see the "other" computer or share
files as I do not have permission despite trying to find
the answer in the various XP help pages. I am the
administrator and only usere of both computers.

I have tried turning off my anto virus program and
firewall but to no avail and help would be very much
appreciated.

many thanks


Bob

Steve Winograd [MVP]
September 5th 04, 11:21 AM
In article >, "Robert Roch"
> wrote:
>I have two XP (SP1) computers joined with a wire and
>ethernet cards. The computers are trying to communicate
>with each other as they both go "online"
>
>I am not allowed to see the "other" computer or share
>files as I do not have permission despite trying to find
>the answer in the various XP help pages. I am the
>administrator and only usere of both computers.
>
>I have tried turning off my anto virus program and
>firewall but to no avail and help would be very much
>appreciated.
>
>many thanks
>
>
>Bob

Without any details of how you've configured the network, it's hard to
say for sure what the problem is. These general tips should help get
everything working:

1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on
local area network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem
connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all other firewall
programs while troubleshooting. When un-installing a firewall
program, use the un-install procedure provided by the manufacturer .
Don't use Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs, which might not
completely un-install it.

For more information, see:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053

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Hans-Georg Michna
September 5th 04, 01:24 PM
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 02:25:39 -0700, "Robert Roch"
> wrote:

>I have two XP (SP1) computers joined with a wire and
>ethernet cards. The computers are trying to communicate
>with each other as they both go "online"
>
>I am not allowed to see the "other" computer or share
>files as I do not have permission despite trying to find
>the answer in the various XP help pages. I am the
>administrator and only usere of both computers.
>
>I have tried turning off my anto virus program and
>firewall but to no avail and help would be very much
>appreciated.

Bob,

is that Windows XP Home or Windows XP Professional?

Hans-Georg

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September 7th 04, 10:17 AM
>-----Original Message-----
>On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 02:25:39 -0700, "Robert Roch"
> wrote:
>
>>I have two XP (SP1) computers joined with a wire and
>>ethernet cards. The computers are trying to communicate
>>with each other as they both go "online"
>>
>>I am not allowed to see the "other" computer or share
>>files as I do not have permission despite trying to find
>>the answer in the various XP help pages. I am the
>>administrator and only usere of both computers.
>>
>>I have tried turning off my anto virus program and
>>firewall but to no avail and help would be very much
>>appreciated.
>
>Bob,
>
>is that Windows XP Home or Windows XP Professional?
>
>Hans-Georg
>
>--
>No mail, please.

Hans,

It is XP home version. I thought I was computer litereate
since I started off many years ago with a ZX 80, this
little problem proves I am not as clever as I thought I
was<lo>

Bob
>.
>

September 7th 04, 10:23 AM
Steve thank you for your advice I have downloaded the web
pages that you have kindly siggested and will take an hour
or tow digesting them and hopefuly I might find the
answewr. As to set up I purchased a startup kit comprising
two ethernet cards and wire.

I used the XP wizard to get as far as getting both
computers showing now on both screens. At one time I used
a program called Easytwoshare that worked for a time until
I had a major crash on one of the copmputers after that I
just couldn't get access/and or permissions.





>-----Original Message-----
>In article <636b01c4932a$4ea51e10
>, "Robert Roch"
> wrote:
>>I have two XP (SP1) computers joined with a wire and
>>ethernet cards. The computers are trying to communicate
>>with each other as they both go "online"
>>
>>I am not allowed to see the "other" computer or share
>>files as I do not have permission despite trying to find
>>the answer in the various XP help pages. I am the
>>administrator and only usere of both computers.
>>
>>I have tried turning off my anto virus program and
>>firewall but to no avail and help would be very much
>>appreciated.
>>
>>many thanks
>>
>>
>>Bob
>
>Without any details of how you've configured the network,
it's hard to
>say for sure what the problem is. These general tips
should help get
>everything working:
>
>1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection
Firewall on
>local area network connections -- it's for use only on a
direct modem
>connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all
other firewall
>programs while troubleshooting. When un-installing a
firewall
>program, use the un-install procedure provided by the
manufacturer .
>Don't use Control Panel | Add or Remove Programs, which
might not
>completely un-install it.
>
>For more information, see:
>
>Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
>http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall
..htm
>
>2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing.
If the network
>needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer
Sharing from all
>but one of them. Details here:
>
>Windows XP Network Protocols
>http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_pro
tocols.htm
>
>3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all
computers.
>Details here:
>
>Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
>http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/n
etbt.htm
>
>4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type"
at the
>beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer"
(which should
>actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It
means that the
>computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available
on a
>peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.
>
>If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this
key:
>
> HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
>
>and delete these values if they're present:
>
> NodeType
> DhcpNodeType
>
>Reboot, then try network access again.
>
>If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again,
create a DWORD
>value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast"
or 4 for
>"Mixed".
>
>For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>
>Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;160177
>
>TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;314053
>
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>.
>

Hans-Georg Michna
September 7th 04, 01:49 PM
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 02:17:15 -0700,
> wrote:

>It is XP home version. I thought I was computer litereate
>since I started off many years ago with a ZX 80, this
>little problem proves I am not as clever as I thought I
>was<lo>

Bob,

often the problems aren't caused by the user directly, but by
installed third-party software that is faulty.

Hans-Georg

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