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Rob
December 11th 03, 08:07 AM
Can anyone help with the above error message please
the background is that I tried to install a new 4 port
USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound from my
Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on the PC
slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
I wondered if it was a conflict with the other 2 port PCI
USB card I had installed so took that out and put the 4
port one in its place
Then I started getting the above error on booting
I've tried putting the 2 port card back in, and removing
both cards altogether - no joy
I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in device
manager as there are so many entries for USB I don't know
which is which
I have a second HD which I can boot from but it is very
small and I would like to sort out the main drive
Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why the USB
problem in the first place??
Rob
Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
December 11th 03, 08:07 AM
Please check the following Knowledge Base Article. Place close attention to
the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
"Rob" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone help with the above error message please
>
> the background is that I tried to install a new 4 port
> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound from my
> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on the PC
> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
>
> I wondered if it was a conflict with the other 2 port PCI
> USB card I had installed so took that out and put the 4
> port one in its place
>
> Then I started getting the above error on booting
>
> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in, and removing
> both cards altogether - no joy
>
> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in device
> manager as there are so many entries for USB I don't know
> which is which
>
> I have a second HD which I can boot from but it is very
> small and I would like to sort out the main drive
>
> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why the USB
> problem in the first place??
>
> Rob
Rob
December 11th 03, 08:08 AM
Thanks Michael - but I don't understand how this helps -
I haven't done anything with the HDD - the cable is the
one I've always used
Rob
>-----Original Message-----
>Please check the following Knowledge Base Article.
Place close attention to
>the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
>http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
>
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
>"Rob" > wrote in
message
...
>> Can anyone help with the above error message please
>>
>> the background is that I tried to install a new 4 port
>> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound from my
>> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on the PC
>> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
>>
>> I wondered if it was a conflict with the other 2 port
PCI
>> USB card I had installed so took that out and put the 4
>> port one in its place
>>
>> Then I started getting the above error on booting
>>
>> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in, and
removing
>> both cards altogether - no joy
>>
>> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in device
>> manager as there are so many entries for USB I don't
know
>> which is which
>>
>> I have a second HD which I can boot from but it is very
>> small and I would like to sort out the main drive
>>
>> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why the USB
>> problem in the first place??
>>
>> Rob
>
>
>.
>
Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
December 11th 03, 08:08 AM
Yes, it's likely the cable that came with the system. If it is a 40 pin
cable, it was working but was an accident waiting to happen. As your system
changes, demands change and various items that were marginal get pushed over
the edge. You need to have that cable checked if, for no other reason, to
rule it out as the culprit. However, if it is a 40 pin cable, it is likely
the source of the issue.
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
"Rob" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Michael - but I don't understand how this helps -
> I haven't done anything with the HDD - the cable is the
> one I've always used
>
> Rob
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Please check the following Knowledge Base Article.
> Place close attention to
> >the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
> >http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
> >
> >
> >--
> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >Windows Shell/User
> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >
> >"Rob" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Can anyone help with the above error message please
> >>
> >> the background is that I tried to install a new 4 port
> >> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound from my
> >> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on the PC
> >> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
> >>
> >> I wondered if it was a conflict with the other 2 port
> PCI
> >> USB card I had installed so took that out and put the 4
> >> port one in its place
> >>
> >> Then I started getting the above error on booting
> >>
> >> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in, and
> removing
> >> both cards altogether - no joy
> >>
> >> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in device
> >> manager as there are so many entries for USB I don't
> know
> >> which is which
> >>
> >> I have a second HD which I can boot from but it is very
> >> small and I would like to sort out the main drive
> >>
> >> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why the USB
> >> problem in the first place??
> >>
> >> Rob
> >
> >
> >.
> >
Rob
December 11th 03, 10:25 AM
Hi Michael
Well I'm afraid I have no idea how to tell whether I have
a 40 pin or 80 pin cable so I had another look at the
article you sent me the link for.
the error message I get fits the bill for the file system
being damaged - see 2nd bullet of 'Cause'.
And in fact when I booted from my D drive (second HDD
with another xp installation)checkdisk ran .... but it
found no problems. On rebooting still get the error for
file system damage - I'm confused !
What about uninstalling the USB drivers for the new card
I tried to install ? But how do I now which drivers are
which in device manager?
Regards
Rob
>-----Original Message-----
>Yes, it's likely the cable that came with the system.
If it is a 40 pin
>cable, it was working but was an accident waiting to
happen. As your system
>changes, demands change and various items that were
marginal get pushed over
>the edge. You need to have that cable checked if, for
no other reason, to
>rule it out as the culprit. However, if it is a 40 pin
cable, it is likely
>the source of the issue.
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
>"Rob" > wrote in
message
...
>> Thanks Michael - but I don't understand how this
helps -
>> I haven't done anything with the HDD - the cable is the
>> one I've always used
>>
>> Rob
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Please check the following Knowledge Base Article.
>> Place close attention to
>> >the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
>> >http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >Windows Shell/User
>> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >
>> >"Rob" > wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Can anyone help with the above error message please
>> >>
>> >> the background is that I tried to install a new 4
port
>> >> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound from
my
>> >> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on the
PC
>> >> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
>> >>
>> >> I wondered if it was a conflict with the other 2
port
>> PCI
>> >> USB card I had installed so took that out and put
the 4
>> >> port one in its place
>> >>
>> >> Then I started getting the above error on booting
>> >>
>> >> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in, and
>> removing
>> >> both cards altogether - no joy
>> >>
>> >> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in
device
>> >> manager as there are so many entries for USB I don't
>> know
>> >> which is which
>> >>
>> >> I have a second HD which I can boot from but it is
very
>> >> small and I would like to sort out the main drive
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why the
USB
>> >> problem in the first place??
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
December 11th 03, 10:25 AM
A technician would be able to tell you about the cable and that is the most
likely cause. Even if you manage to get past this and the system rebounds,
if the hard drive is using a 40 pin cable, this is an accident waiting to
happen and the issue will arise again. It may not be the issue but it is
important to rule that out.
Uninstalling the USB drivers might resolve it but the underlying cause would
remain.
You really don't need to know which drivers, you can remove them all and
reboot, the system will find the hardware and reinstall the drivers.
However, if you are going to do that, shutdown the system after you delete
the drivers and remove the card then boot the system letting it find the
remaining hardware. I don't think you need to remove the Universal USB host
controller in device manager, just the other drivers.
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
"Rob" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Michael
>
> Well I'm afraid I have no idea how to tell whether I have
> a 40 pin or 80 pin cable so I had another look at the
> article you sent me the link for.
>
> the error message I get fits the bill for the file system
> being damaged - see 2nd bullet of 'Cause'.
>
> And in fact when I booted from my D drive (second HDD
> with another xp installation)checkdisk ran .... but it
> found no problems. On rebooting still get the error for
> file system damage - I'm confused !
>
> What about uninstalling the USB drivers for the new card
> I tried to install ? But how do I now which drivers are
> which in device manager?
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Yes, it's likely the cable that came with the system.
> If it is a 40 pin
> >cable, it was working but was an accident waiting to
> happen. As your system
> >changes, demands change and various items that were
> marginal get pushed over
> >the edge. You need to have that cable checked if, for
> no other reason, to
> >rule it out as the culprit. However, if it is a 40 pin
> cable, it is likely
> >the source of the issue.
> >
> >--
> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >Windows Shell/User
> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >
> >"Rob" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Thanks Michael - but I don't understand how this
> helps -
> >> I haven't done anything with the HDD - the cable is the
> >> one I've always used
> >>
> >> Rob
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Please check the following Knowledge Base Article.
> >> Place close attention to
> >> >the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
> >> >http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >> >Windows Shell/User
> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >> >
> >> >"Rob" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> ...
> >> >> Can anyone help with the above error message please
> >> >>
> >> >> the background is that I tried to install a new 4
> port
> >> >> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound from
> my
> >> >> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on the
> PC
> >> >> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
> >> >>
> >> >> I wondered if it was a conflict with the other 2
> port
> >> PCI
> >> >> USB card I had installed so took that out and put
> the 4
> >> >> port one in its place
> >> >>
> >> >> Then I started getting the above error on booting
> >> >>
> >> >> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in, and
> >> removing
> >> >> both cards altogether - no joy
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in
> device
> >> >> manager as there are so many entries for USB I don't
> >> know
> >> >> which is which
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a second HD which I can boot from but it is
> very
> >> >> small and I would like to sort out the main drive
> >> >>
> >> >> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why the
> USB
> >> >> problem in the first place??
> >> >>
> >> >> Rob
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
Rob
December 11th 03, 10:28 AM
Hi again Michael
I hate to be a pain - but I seem to be frustrated at
every turn on this one.
I have tried today to get an 80 pin IDE cable but I can't
find one anywhere. Tried PC World which is fortunately
just down the road and they didn't have one or know what
I was talking about. Then tried a load of online UK
stores that I use for other PC components and still can't
find even one - either there is no indication of the pins
or they are all 40 - occasionally some are 80 wire but I
understand that is not the same thing.
Any clues on what to look for please?
Rob
>-----Original Message-----
>A technician would be able to tell you about the cable
and that is the most
>likely cause. Even if you manage to get past this and
the system rebounds,
>if the hard drive is using a 40 pin cable, this is an
accident waiting to
>happen and the issue will arise again. It may not be
the issue but it is
>important to rule that out.
>
>Uninstalling the USB drivers might resolve it but the
underlying cause would
>remain.
>
>You really don't need to know which drivers, you can
remove them all and
>reboot, the system will find the hardware and reinstall
the drivers.
>However, if you are going to do that, shutdown the
system after you delete
>the drivers and remove the card then boot the system
letting it find the
>remaining hardware. I don't think you need to remove
the Universal USB host
>controller in device manager, just the other drivers.
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
>"Rob" > wrote in
message
...
>> Hi Michael
>>
>> Well I'm afraid I have no idea how to tell whether I
have
>> a 40 pin or 80 pin cable so I had another look at the
>> article you sent me the link for.
>>
>> the error message I get fits the bill for the file
system
>> being damaged - see 2nd bullet of 'Cause'.
>>
>> And in fact when I booted from my D drive (second HDD
>> with another xp installation)checkdisk ran .... but it
>> found no problems. On rebooting still get the error for
>> file system damage - I'm confused !
>>
>> What about uninstalling the USB drivers for the new
card
>> I tried to install ? But how do I now which drivers are
>> which in device manager?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Yes, it's likely the cable that came with the system.
>> If it is a 40 pin
>> >cable, it was working but was an accident waiting to
>> happen. As your system
>> >changes, demands change and various items that were
>> marginal get pushed over
>> >the edge. You need to have that cable checked if, for
>> no other reason, to
>> >rule it out as the culprit. However, if it is a 40
pin
>> cable, it is likely
>> >the source of the issue.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >Windows Shell/User
>> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >
>> >"Rob" > wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Thanks Michael - but I don't understand how this
>> helps -
>> >> I haven't done anything with the HDD - the cable is
the
>> >> one I've always used
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Please check the following Knowledge Base Article.
>> >> Place close attention to
>> >> >the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
>> >> >http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >> >Windows Shell/User
>> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >> >
>> >> >"Rob" > wrote
in
>> >> message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> Can anyone help with the above error message
please
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the background is that I tried to install a new 4
>> port
>> >> >> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound
from
>> my
>> >> >> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on
the
>> PC
>> >> >> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I wondered if it was a conflict with the other 2
>> port
>> >> PCI
>> >> >> USB card I had installed so took that out and put
>> the 4
>> >> >> port one in its place
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then I started getting the above error on booting
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in, and
>> >> removing
>> >> >> both cards altogether - no joy
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in
>> device
>> >> >> manager as there are so many entries for USB I
don't
>> >> know
>> >> >> which is which
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a second HD which I can boot from but it
is
>> very
>> >> >> small and I would like to sort out the main drive
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why the
>> USB
>> >> >> problem in the first place??
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rob
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
December 11th 03, 10:28 AM
I'm sorry, my references should have said 80-wire cable, that is what is
specified in the KB article. I believe they are all 40-pin but some 40-pin
cables are 40-wire instead of 80-wire and 80-wire UDMA cable is what is
required. Here's one source I found using Google:
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MBBPLUS
I'm sure there are others as well, www.google.com.
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
"Rob" > wrote in message
...
> Hi again Michael
>
> I hate to be a pain - but I seem to be frustrated at
> every turn on this one.
>
> I have tried today to get an 80 pin IDE cable but I can't
> find one anywhere. Tried PC World which is fortunately
> just down the road and they didn't have one or know what
> I was talking about. Then tried a load of online UK
> stores that I use for other PC components and still can't
> find even one - either there is no indication of the pins
> or they are all 40 - occasionally some are 80 wire but I
> understand that is not the same thing.
>
> Any clues on what to look for please?
>
> Rob
> >-----Original Message-----
> >A technician would be able to tell you about the cable
> and that is the most
> >likely cause. Even if you manage to get past this and
> the system rebounds,
> >if the hard drive is using a 40 pin cable, this is an
> accident waiting to
> >happen and the issue will arise again. It may not be
> the issue but it is
> >important to rule that out.
> >
> >Uninstalling the USB drivers might resolve it but the
> underlying cause would
> >remain.
> >
> >You really don't need to know which drivers, you can
> remove them all and
> >reboot, the system will find the hardware and reinstall
> the drivers.
> >However, if you are going to do that, shutdown the
> system after you delete
> >the drivers and remove the card then boot the system
> letting it find the
> >remaining hardware. I don't think you need to remove
> the Universal USB host
> >controller in device manager, just the other drivers.
> >
> >--
> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >Windows Shell/User
> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >
> >"Rob" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Hi Michael
> >>
> >> Well I'm afraid I have no idea how to tell whether I
> have
> >> a 40 pin or 80 pin cable so I had another look at the
> >> article you sent me the link for.
> >>
> >> the error message I get fits the bill for the file
> system
> >> being damaged - see 2nd bullet of 'Cause'.
> >>
> >> And in fact when I booted from my D drive (second HDD
> >> with another xp installation)checkdisk ran .... but it
> >> found no problems. On rebooting still get the error for
> >> file system damage - I'm confused !
> >>
> >> What about uninstalling the USB drivers for the new
> card
> >> I tried to install ? But how do I now which drivers are
> >> which in device manager?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Yes, it's likely the cable that came with the system.
> >> If it is a 40 pin
> >> >cable, it was working but was an accident waiting to
> >> happen. As your system
> >> >changes, demands change and various items that were
> >> marginal get pushed over
> >> >the edge. You need to have that cable checked if, for
> >> no other reason, to
> >> >rule it out as the culprit. However, if it is a 40
> pin
> >> cable, it is likely
> >> >the source of the issue.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >> >Windows Shell/User
> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >> >
> >> >"Rob" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> ...
> >> >> Thanks Michael - but I don't understand how this
> >> helps -
> >> >> I haven't done anything with the HDD - the cable is
> the
> >> >> one I've always used
> >> >>
> >> >> Rob
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Please check the following Knowledge Base Article.
> >> >> Place close attention to
> >> >> >the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >> >> >Windows Shell/User
> >> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Rob" > wrote
> in
> >> >> message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> Can anyone help with the above error message
> please
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> the background is that I tried to install a new 4
> >> port
> >> >> >> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound
> from
> >> my
> >> >> >> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on
> the
> >> PC
> >> >> >> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I wondered if it was a conflict with the other 2
> >> port
> >> >> PCI
> >> >> >> USB card I had installed so took that out and put
> >> the 4
> >> >> >> port one in its place
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Then I started getting the above error on booting
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in, and
> >> >> removing
> >> >> >> both cards altogether - no joy
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in
> >> device
> >> >> >> manager as there are so many entries for USB I
> don't
> >> >> know
> >> >> >> which is which
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have a second HD which I can boot from but it
> is
> >> very
> >> >> >> small and I would like to sort out the main drive
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why the
> >> USB
> >> >> >> problem in the first place??
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rob
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
Rob
December 11th 03, 10:32 AM
Hi again Michael
Well I got an 80 wire cable but that hasn't solved it.
I wanted to try the other solution in the KB article -
using recovery console but have hit a snag
It only lists the D: drive to recover not C: which is the
one with the problem
How do I get round this one?
Regards
Rob
>-----Original Message-----
>I'm sorry, my references should have said 80-wire cable,
that is what is
>specified in the KB article. I believe they are all 40-
pin but some 40-pin
>cables are 40-wire instead of 80-wire and 80-wire UDMA
cable is what is
>required. Here's one source I found using Google:
>http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MBBPLUS
>I'm sure there are others as well, www.google.com.
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
>"Rob" > wrote in
message
...
>> Hi again Michael
>>
>> I hate to be a pain - but I seem to be frustrated at
>> every turn on this one.
>>
>> I have tried today to get an 80 pin IDE cable but I
can't
>> find one anywhere. Tried PC World which is fortunately
>> just down the road and they didn't have one or know
what
>> I was talking about. Then tried a load of online UK
>> stores that I use for other PC components and still
can't
>> find even one - either there is no indication of the
pins
>> or they are all 40 - occasionally some are 80 wire but
I
>> understand that is not the same thing.
>>
>> Any clues on what to look for please?
>>
>> Rob
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >A technician would be able to tell you about the cable
>> and that is the most
>> >likely cause. Even if you manage to get past this and
>> the system rebounds,
>> >if the hard drive is using a 40 pin cable, this is an
>> accident waiting to
>> >happen and the issue will arise again. It may not be
>> the issue but it is
>> >important to rule that out.
>> >
>> >Uninstalling the USB drivers might resolve it but the
>> underlying cause would
>> >remain.
>> >
>> >You really don't need to know which drivers, you can
>> remove them all and
>> >reboot, the system will find the hardware and
reinstall
>> the drivers.
>> >However, if you are going to do that, shutdown the
>> system after you delete
>> >the drivers and remove the card then boot the system
>> letting it find the
>> >remaining hardware. I don't think you need to remove
>> the Universal USB host
>> >controller in device manager, just the other drivers.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >Windows Shell/User
>> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >
>> >"Rob" > wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Hi Michael
>> >>
>> >> Well I'm afraid I have no idea how to tell whether I
>> have
>> >> a 40 pin or 80 pin cable so I had another look at
the
>> >> article you sent me the link for.
>> >>
>> >> the error message I get fits the bill for the file
>> system
>> >> being damaged - see 2nd bullet of 'Cause'.
>> >>
>> >> And in fact when I booted from my D drive (second
HDD
>> >> with another xp installation)checkdisk ran .... but
it
>> >> found no problems. On rebooting still get the error
for
>> >> file system damage - I'm confused !
>> >>
>> >> What about uninstalling the USB drivers for the new
>> card
>> >> I tried to install ? But how do I now which drivers
are
>> >> which in device manager?
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Yes, it's likely the cable that came with the
system.
>> >> If it is a 40 pin
>> >> >cable, it was working but was an accident waiting
to
>> >> happen. As your system
>> >> >changes, demands change and various items that were
>> >> marginal get pushed over
>> >> >the edge. You need to have that cable checked if,
for
>> >> no other reason, to
>> >> >rule it out as the culprit. However, if it is a 40
>> pin
>> >> cable, it is likely
>> >> >the source of the issue.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >> >Windows Shell/User
>> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >> >
>> >> >"Rob" > wrote
in
>> >> message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> Thanks Michael - but I don't understand how this
>> >> helps -
>> >> >> I haven't done anything with the HDD - the cable
is
>> the
>> >> >> one I've always used
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rob
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Please check the following Knowledge Base
Article.
>> >> >> Place close attention to
>> >> >> >the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
>> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>> >> >> >Windows Shell/User
>> >> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>> >> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Rob" >
wrote
>> in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> Can anyone help with the above error message
>> please
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> the background is that I tried to install a
new 4
>> >> port
>> >> >> >> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound
>> from
>> >> my
>> >> >> >> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on
>> the
>> >> PC
>> >> >> >> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I wondered if it was a conflict with the
other 2
>> >> port
>> >> >> PCI
>> >> >> >> USB card I had installed so took that out and
put
>> >> the 4
>> >> >> >> port one in its place
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Then I started getting the above error on
booting
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in,
and
>> >> >> removing
>> >> >> >> both cards altogether - no joy
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in
>> >> device
>> >> >> >> manager as there are so many entries for USB I
>> don't
>> >> >> know
>> >> >> >> which is which
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have a second HD which I can boot from but
it
>> is
>> >> very
>> >> >> >> small and I would like to sort out the main
drive
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why
the
>> >> USB
>> >> >> >> problem in the first place??
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Rob
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
December 11th 03, 10:32 AM
Did you try using the fixboot option instead of chkdsk/r?
Or try the following and then try the fixboot option:
At the prompt type bootcfg /rebuild and press enter.
If that fails, try a repair install as follows:
NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data files intact, if
something goes wrong during the repair install, you may be forced to start
over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have your data backed up,
you would lose your data should that eventuality occur.
Boot from the CD. If your system is set to be able to boot from the CD, it
should detect the disk and give a brief message, during the boot up, if you
wish to boot from the CD press any key.
Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You will see a reference
asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you
wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2. Just let
setup run past all of that. It will continue to load files and drivers.
Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will come to a screen
with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation
using the Recovery console.
The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you to
press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement. Setup
will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon finding your
version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or
install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair installation. From there
on, follow the screens.
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
"Rob" > wrote in message
...
> Hi again Michael
>
> Well I got an 80 wire cable but that hasn't solved it.
>
> I wanted to try the other solution in the KB article -
> using recovery console but have hit a snag
>
> It only lists the D: drive to recover not C: which is the
> one with the problem
>
> How do I get round this one?
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I'm sorry, my references should have said 80-wire cable,
> that is what is
> >specified in the KB article. I believe they are all 40-
> pin but some 40-pin
> >cables are 40-wire instead of 80-wire and 80-wire UDMA
> cable is what is
> >required. Here's one source I found using Google:
> >http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MBBPLUS
> >I'm sure there are others as well, www.google.com.
> >
> >--
> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >Windows Shell/User
> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >
> >"Rob" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Hi again Michael
> >>
> >> I hate to be a pain - but I seem to be frustrated at
> >> every turn on this one.
> >>
> >> I have tried today to get an 80 pin IDE cable but I
> can't
> >> find one anywhere. Tried PC World which is fortunately
> >> just down the road and they didn't have one or know
> what
> >> I was talking about. Then tried a load of online UK
> >> stores that I use for other PC components and still
> can't
> >> find even one - either there is no indication of the
> pins
> >> or they are all 40 - occasionally some are 80 wire but
> I
> >> understand that is not the same thing.
> >>
> >> Any clues on what to look for please?
> >>
> >> Rob
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >A technician would be able to tell you about the cable
> >> and that is the most
> >> >likely cause. Even if you manage to get past this and
> >> the system rebounds,
> >> >if the hard drive is using a 40 pin cable, this is an
> >> accident waiting to
> >> >happen and the issue will arise again. It may not be
> >> the issue but it is
> >> >important to rule that out.
> >> >
> >> >Uninstalling the USB drivers might resolve it but the
> >> underlying cause would
> >> >remain.
> >> >
> >> >You really don't need to know which drivers, you can
> >> remove them all and
> >> >reboot, the system will find the hardware and
> reinstall
> >> the drivers.
> >> >However, if you are going to do that, shutdown the
> >> system after you delete
> >> >the drivers and remove the card then boot the system
> >> letting it find the
> >> >remaining hardware. I don't think you need to remove
> >> the Universal USB host
> >> >controller in device manager, just the other drivers.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >> >Windows Shell/User
> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >> >
> >> >"Rob" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> ...
> >> >> Hi Michael
> >> >>
> >> >> Well I'm afraid I have no idea how to tell whether I
> >> have
> >> >> a 40 pin or 80 pin cable so I had another look at
> the
> >> >> article you sent me the link for.
> >> >>
> >> >> the error message I get fits the bill for the file
> >> system
> >> >> being damaged - see 2nd bullet of 'Cause'.
> >> >>
> >> >> And in fact when I booted from my D drive (second
> HDD
> >> >> with another xp installation)checkdisk ran .... but
> it
> >> >> found no problems. On rebooting still get the error
> for
> >> >> file system damage - I'm confused !
> >> >>
> >> >> What about uninstalling the USB drivers for the new
> >> card
> >> >> I tried to install ? But how do I now which drivers
> are
> >> >> which in device manager?
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Rob
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Yes, it's likely the cable that came with the
> system.
> >> >> If it is a 40 pin
> >> >> >cable, it was working but was an accident waiting
> to
> >> >> happen. As your system
> >> >> >changes, demands change and various items that were
> >> >> marginal get pushed over
> >> >> >the edge. You need to have that cable checked if,
> for
> >> >> no other reason, to
> >> >> >rule it out as the culprit. However, if it is a 40
> >> pin
> >> >> cable, it is likely
> >> >> >the source of the issue.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >> >> >Windows Shell/User
> >> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Rob" > wrote
> in
> >> >> message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> Thanks Michael - but I don't understand how this
> >> >> helps -
> >> >> >> I haven't done anything with the HDD - the cable
> is
> >> the
> >> >> >> one I've always used
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rob
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >Please check the following Knowledge Base
> Article.
> >> >> >> Place close attention to
> >> >> >> >the section concerning the 40 and 80 wire cable:
> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/ezaj
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >> >> >> >Windows Shell/User
> >> >> >> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >> >> >> >DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Rob" >
> wrote
> >> in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> Can anyone help with the above error message
> >> please
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> the background is that I tried to install a
> new 4
> >> >> port
> >> >> >> >> USB 2.0 PCI card - but it didn't work - sound
> >> from
> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> Audigy 2 was all distorted and every action on
> >> the
> >> >> PC
> >> >> >> >> slowed to a crawl and eventual dead halt
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I wondered if it was a conflict with the
> other 2
> >> >> port
> >> >> >> PCI
> >> >> >> >> USB card I had installed so took that out and
> put
> >> >> the 4
> >> >> >> >> port one in its place
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Then I started getting the above error on
> booting
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I've tried putting the 2 port card back in,
> and
> >> >> >> removing
> >> >> >> >> both cards altogether - no joy
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I don't know how to install the USB card(s) in
> >> >> device
> >> >> >> >> manager as there are so many entries for USB I
> >> don't
> >> >> >> know
> >> >> >> >> which is which
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have a second HD which I can boot from but
> it
> >> is
> >> >> very
> >> >> >> >> small and I would like to sort out the main
> drive
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Any suggestions please? .... and any idea why
> the
> >> >> USB
> >> >> >> >> problem in the first place??
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Rob
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
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