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Patrick Pierson
October 4th 04, 03:01 AM
I have a question I would greatly apreciate any opinions on.

First, some background. In January of last year I bought a P4 2.2 machine.
It came with winwxpsp1 on it.

The main thing I use my machine for is playing games, more old dos and win
95/98 games than anything recent aand xpsp1 just did not do it for them. And
yes, I know about compatibility mode.

I used partition magic to change ntfs to fat32 and then used a 98se
boot disk to fdisk and refotmat the hard drive of the machine in question.
Then I installed 98se. It worked out great. All my old games worked
perfectly and the machine itself just flew along. (Obviously I changed to
the correct drivers and so on at the same time.

I have now ordered a new P.4 3.2 Mhz machine and am considering doing the
same thing again.

TO be clear, I am NOT asking which os is better overall because I know that
overall winxp is. But it is not so great for the types of things I want to
do at home with it. And this is not a merely a matter of familiarty throwing
my judgement off because I use xp at work, am familiar with it, and know how
to tweak it. But I do NOT like it for my retro gaming.

And yes, I do own a number of copies of 98se. I bought them up a few years
ago since I knew I might want them someday.

My question is tecnical:

Will win98se even work properly on a processor of the speed I am getting? I
know that speed was probably not even dreamed of when 98se was being
designed. But it works perfect on my current 2.2. Would that also be the
case with 3.2 or will be be crossing some invisible linitation if I try it?


Second, as long as I am asking, I also have a secondary question. I have ms
Java on a cd. If I end up installing win98se again I plan to install the
java as well. But if I keep the winxpsp2 os can I also install it or should
I use the sun java, or use none.

I understnd why sun won their lawsuite about the availability of ms Java and
that it is less open to some problems but I personall prefer the ms version.
So with winxpsp2 can I install majava pff my discs,
or is the sun java already there, or is there no need for either because of
some new and wonderful feature of winxpsp2 that makes neither necessary?

ANy experiences, opinions, or even facts would ge greatful from anyone and
everyone. I am going to post this in a couple of places to increase the
likellyhood I will get reply. There is no need to tell me about how I should
not case so wide a net, I want any minnows or dolphins or whales I can snag.

THank you very much.

Rock
October 4th 04, 07:45 AM
Patrick Pierson wrote:

> I have a question I would greatly apreciate any opinions on.
>
> First, some background. In January of last year I bought a P4 2.2 machine.
> It came with winwxpsp1 on it.
>
> The main thing I use my machine for is playing games, more old dos and win
> 95/98 games than anything recent aand xpsp1 just did not do it for them. And
> yes, I know about compatibility mode.
>
> I used partition magic to change ntfs to fat32 and then used a 98se
> boot disk to fdisk and refotmat the hard drive of the machine in question.
> Then I installed 98se. It worked out great. All my old games worked
> perfectly and the machine itself just flew along. (Obviously I changed to
> the correct drivers and so on at the same time.
>
> I have now ordered a new P.4 3.2 Mhz machine and am considering doing the
> same thing again.
>
> TO be clear, I am NOT asking which os is better overall because I know that
> overall winxp is. But it is not so great for the types of things I want to
> do at home with it. And this is not a merely a matter of familiarty throwing
> my judgement off because I use xp at work, am familiar with it, and know how
> to tweak it. But I do NOT like it for my retro gaming.
>
> And yes, I do own a number of copies of 98se. I bought them up a few years
> ago since I knew I might want them someday.
>
> My question is tecnical:
>
> Will win98se even work properly on a processor of the speed I am getting? I
> know that speed was probably not even dreamed of when 98se was being
> designed. But it works perfect on my current 2.2. Would that also be the
> case with 3.2 or will be be crossing some invisible linitation if I try it?
>
>
> Second, as long as I am asking, I also have a secondary question. I have ms
> Java on a cd. If I end up installing win98se again I plan to install the
> java as well. But if I keep the winxpsp2 os can I also install it or should
> I use the sun java, or use none.
>
> I understnd why sun won their lawsuite about the availability of ms Java and
> that it is less open to some problems but I personall prefer the ms version.
> So with winxpsp2 can I install majava pff my discs,
> or is the sun java already there, or is there no need for either because of
> some new and wonderful feature of winxpsp2 that makes neither necessary?
>
> ANy experiences, opinions, or even facts would ge greatful from anyone and
> everyone. I am going to post this in a couple of places to increase the
> likellyhood I will get reply. There is no need to tell me about how I should
> not case so wide a net, I want any minnows or dolphins or whales I can snag.
>
> THank you very much.
>
>

XPSP2 does not come with Java, either the MS flavor or Sun. If there
are websites you visit which use it, then you will need to install one
of them. You can still get a version of Windows JVM from various places
on the net, then update that through windows update to the latest
version. MS still offers that latest update through AU but does not
distribute the qualifying JVM.

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