Logitech Cordless Desktop MX for Bluetooth & SP2 (Logitech Bluetooth hub in particular)?

[Joe]

I want to go as completely bluetooth as possible (I am so sick of wires
everywhere :-)), and am considering the Logitech Cordless Desktop MX for
Bluetooth for my Windows XP SP2 system.

Is there anyone out there that has this combination, and does it work?

What is really confusing about this product is that they seem to supply
their own bluetooth stack as part of their "Setpoint" software. I DO NOT
WANT to mess up the builtin bluetooth stack in SP2 by installing the
logitech stuff. I have a bluetooth dongle, and have it working with both my
Sony Ericsson phone and my iPaq for things like synchronization. I am hoping
to toss the dongle, and just use the Logitech Bluetooth hub.

So, if anyone has this logitech product, please post your impressions?

I am most interested in the following please:

- Does the included bluetooth hub work with SP2's builtin bluetooth stack?
Is it auto recognized by the MS bluetooth stack when you plug it in?
- Do I need to install anything from Logitech to get it working?
- If the hub doesnt work with SP2, will the keyboard & mouse work with other
Bluetooth dongles?
- I assume that I can use other bluetooth devices with the logitech hub
(assuming it works with SP2... :-))?

I have filed these list of questions with Logitech support, but I have had
bad experiences with them in the past, so I dont hold out a whole lot of
hope they will give me *correct* answers :-) Maybe they will surprise me
and make me a convert though...

Thanks so much in advance for any help,

Joe
ps I would consider instead buying the MS competing product, but I have read
it wont work at boot time (for configuring bios for instance), and it doesnt
have a rechargeable mouse.

[Nathan McNulty]

Since the BlueTooth format is standardized, they should all communicate
with each other in the same way no matter what dongle or device you are
using. Some devices support different services than others, but they
should all work. Here is a list of natively supported BT devices:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;841803

You can still use your current BT dongle with the new keyboard and mouse
if you want to. I am not sure what you mean by Logitech BlueTooth Hub.
Isn't is just another dongle? Anyways, I am using the Microsoft BT
Desktop with SP2 right now and it works great. Logitech is every bit as
good (some say better, but I think they are both great) as the Microsoft
products. You should have no problems, but if you are worried about it,
go to a store, but it, try it, and if it works either keep it or find a
lower price online and return it. If it doesn't work the way you want
it to, return it and try the MS BT Desktop ;)

-----
Nathan McNulty

Joe wrote:
> I want to go as completely bluetooth as possible (I am so sick of wires
> everywhere :-)), and am considering the Logitech Cordless Desktop MX for
> Bluetooth for my Windows XP SP2 system.
>
> Is there anyone out there that has this combination, and does it work?
>
> What is really confusing about this product is that they seem to supply
> their own bluetooth stack as part of their "Setpoint" software. I DO NOT
> WANT to mess up the builtin bluetooth stack in SP2 by installing the
> logitech stuff. I have a bluetooth dongle, and have it working with both my
> Sony Ericsson phone and my iPaq for things like synchronization. I am hoping
> to toss the dongle, and just use the Logitech Bluetooth hub.
>
> So, if anyone has this logitech product, please post your impressions?
>
> I am most interested in the following please:
>
> - Does the included bluetooth hub work with SP2's builtin bluetooth stack?
> Is it auto recognized by the MS bluetooth stack when you plug it in?
> - Do I need to install anything from Logitech to get it working?
> - If the hub doesnt work with SP2, will the keyboard & mouse work with other
> Bluetooth dongles?
> - I assume that I can use other bluetooth devices with the logitech hub
> (assuming it works with SP2... :-))?
>
> I have filed these list of questions with Logitech support, but I have had
> bad experiences with them in the past, so I dont hold out a whole lot of
> hope they will give me *correct* answers :-) Maybe they will surprise me
> and make me a convert though...
>
> Thanks so much in advance for any help,
>
> Joe
> ps I would consider instead buying the MS competing product, but I have read
> it wont work at boot time (for configuring bios for instance), and it doesnt
> have a rechargeable mouse.
>
>
>

[Joe]

Hi Nathan -

Thanks for the quick reply, it is appreciated.

I agree that "since the bluetooth format is standardized, they all should
'just work'". However, this has almost never been my experience when
talking about standards implemented by multiple vendors. :-( I did check
out the list you pointed me to and did not see Logitech listed.

What I am concerned about is that the logitech "hub" (I dont know what that
means either its Logitechs terminology, I am guessing it means a bluetooth
transceiver) wont be natively supported in SP2. If it isnt, that means I
have to install some kind of driver from logitech. And that is where my
nightmares will start I'm sure. :-(

I guess it comes down to whether the Logitech BT "hub" is natively supported
by SP2.

Does anyone know the answer to that question?

Thanks again,

Joe


"Nathan McNulty" > wrote in message
...
> Since the BlueTooth format is standardized, they should all communicate
> with each other in the same way no matter what dongle or device you are
> using. Some devices support different services than others, but they
> should all work. Here is a list of natively supported BT devices:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;841803
>
> You can still use your current BT dongle with the new keyboard and mouse
> if you want to. I am not sure what you mean by Logitech BlueTooth Hub.
> Isn't is just another dongle? Anyways, I am using the Microsoft BT
> Desktop with SP2 right now and it works great. Logitech is every bit as
> good (some say better, but I think they are both great) as the Microsoft
> products. You should have no problems, but if you are worried about it,
> go to a store, but it, try it, and if it works either keep it or find a
> lower price online and return it. If it doesn't work the way you want it
> to, return it and try the MS BT Desktop ;)
>
> -----
> Nathan McNulty
>
> Joe wrote:
>> I want to go as completely bluetooth as possible (I am so sick of wires
>> everywhere :-)), and am considering the Logitech Cordless Desktop MX for
>> Bluetooth for my Windows XP SP2 system.
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has this combination, and does it work?
>>
>> What is really confusing about this product is that they seem to supply
>> their own bluetooth stack as part of their "Setpoint" software. I DO NOT
>> WANT to mess up the builtin bluetooth stack in SP2 by installing the
>> logitech stuff. I have a bluetooth dongle, and have it working with both
>> my
>> Sony Ericsson phone and my iPaq for things like synchronization. I am
>> hoping
>> to toss the dongle, and just use the Logitech Bluetooth hub.
>>
>> So, if anyone has this logitech product, please post your impressions?
>>
>> I am most interested in the following please:
>>
>> - Does the included bluetooth hub work with SP2's builtin bluetooth
>> stack?
>> Is it auto recognized by the MS bluetooth stack when you plug it in?
>> - Do I need to install anything from Logitech to get it working?
>> - If the hub doesnt work with SP2, will the keyboard & mouse work with
>> other
>> Bluetooth dongles?
>> - I assume that I can use other bluetooth devices with the logitech hub
>> (assuming it works with SP2... :-))?
>>
>> I have filed these list of questions with Logitech support, but I have
>> had
>> bad experiences with them in the past, so I dont hold out a whole lot of
>> hope they will give me *correct* answers :-) Maybe they will surprise me
>> and make me a convert though...
>>
>> Thanks so much in advance for any help,
>>
>> Joe
>> ps I would consider instead buying the MS competing product, but I have
>> read
>> it wont work at boot time (for configuring bios for instance), and it
>> doesnt
>> have a rechargeable mouse.
>>
>>

[Nathan McNulty]

If the logitech BT "hub" is not on that list, it is not natively
supported and will require the Logitech drivers. This is not a bad
thing either. Most people prefer other stacks (especially the Widcomm
one) than the generic one included with Windows. You should be fine
either way. If your current BT Dongle is natively supported, you can
just use that and connect the keyboard/mouse to it instead and still
have all of the functionality assuming Logitech didn't do something
funky with their hardware.

-----
Nathan McNulty

Joe wrote:
> Hi Nathan -
>
> Thanks for the quick reply, it is appreciated.
>
> I agree that "since the bluetooth format is standardized, they all should
> 'just work'". However, this has almost never been my experience when
> talking about standards implemented by multiple vendors. :-( I did check
> out the list you pointed me to and did not see Logitech listed.
>
> What I am concerned about is that the logitech "hub" (I dont know what that
> means either its Logitechs terminology, I am guessing it means a bluetooth
> transceiver) wont be natively supported in SP2. If it isnt, that means I
> have to install some kind of driver from logitech. And that is where my
> nightmares will start I'm sure. :-(
>
> I guess it comes down to whether the Logitech BT "hub" is natively supported
> by SP2.
>
> Does anyone know the answer to that question?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Joe
>
>
> "Nathan McNulty" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Since the BlueTooth format is standardized, they should all communicate
>>with each other in the same way no matter what dongle or device you are
>>using. Some devices support different services than others, but they
>>should all work. Here is a list of natively supported BT devices:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;841803
>>
>>You can still use your current BT dongle with the new keyboard and mouse
>>if you want to. I am not sure what you mean by Logitech BlueTooth Hub.
>>Isn't is just another dongle? Anyways, I am using the Microsoft BT
>>Desktop with SP2 right now and it works great. Logitech is every bit as
>>good (some say better, but I think they are both great) as the Microsoft
>>products. You should have no problems, but if you are worried about it,
>>go to a store, but it, try it, and if it works either keep it or find a
>>lower price online and return it. If it doesn't work the way you want it
>>to, return it and try the MS BT Desktop ;)
>>
>>-----
>>Nathan McNulty
>>
>>Joe wrote:
>>
>>>I want to go as completely bluetooth as possible (I am so sick of wires
>>>everywhere :-)), and am considering the Logitech Cordless Desktop MX for
>>>Bluetooth for my Windows XP SP2 system.
>>>
>>>Is there anyone out there that has this combination, and does it work?
>>>
>>>What is really confusing about this product is that they seem to supply
>>>their own bluetooth stack as part of their "Setpoint" software. I DO NOT
>>>WANT to mess up the builtin bluetooth stack in SP2 by installing the
>>>logitech stuff. I have a bluetooth dongle, and have it working with both
>>>my
>>>Sony Ericsson phone and my iPaq for things like synchronization. I am
>>>hoping
>>>to toss the dongle, and just use the Logitech Bluetooth hub.
>>>
>>>So, if anyone has this logitech product, please post your impressions?
>>>
>>>I am most interested in the following please:
>>>
>>>- Does the included bluetooth hub work with SP2's builtin bluetooth
>>>stack?
>>>Is it auto recognized by the MS bluetooth stack when you plug it in?
>>>- Do I need to install anything from Logitech to get it working?
>>>- If the hub doesnt work with SP2, will the keyboard & mouse work with
>>>other
>>>Bluetooth dongles?
>>>- I assume that I can use other bluetooth devices with the logitech hub
>>>(assuming it works with SP2... :-))?
>>>
>>>I have filed these list of questions with Logitech support, but I have
>>>had
>>>bad experiences with them in the past, so I dont hold out a whole lot of
>>>hope they will give me *correct* answers :-) Maybe they will surprise me
>>>and make me a convert though...
>>>
>>>Thanks so much in advance for any help,
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>ps I would consider instead buying the MS competing product, but I have
>>>read
>>>it wont work at boot time (for configuring bios for instance), and it
>>>doesnt
>>>have a rechargeable mouse.
>>>
>>>
>
>

[NoNoBadDog!]

The Logitech Bluetooth Hub is much better than the generic one that Windows
will provide, and is compatible with any Bluetooth device. It would be a
wise purchase.

Bobby

"Joe" > wrote in message
news:1096869929.JYK+uKU9n/E4Duc/cngxgQ@teranews...
>I want to go as completely bluetooth as possible (I am so sick of wires
> everywhere :-)), and am considering the Logitech Cordless Desktop MX for
> Bluetooth for my Windows XP SP2 system.
>
> Is there anyone out there that has this combination, and does it work?
>
> What is really confusing about this product is that they seem to supply
> their own bluetooth stack as part of their "Setpoint" software. I DO NOT
> WANT to mess up the builtin bluetooth stack in SP2 by installing the
> logitech stuff. I have a bluetooth dongle, and have it working with both
> my
> Sony Ericsson phone and my iPaq for things like synchronization. I am
> hoping
> to toss the dongle, and just use the Logitech Bluetooth hub.
>
> So, if anyone has this logitech product, please post your impressions?
>
> I am most interested in the following please:
>
> - Does the included bluetooth hub work with SP2's builtin bluetooth stack?
> Is it auto recognized by the MS bluetooth stack when you plug it in?
> - Do I need to install anything from Logitech to get it working?
> - If the hub doesnt work with SP2, will the keyboard & mouse work with
> other
> Bluetooth dongles?
> - I assume that I can use other bluetooth devices with the logitech hub
> (assuming it works with SP2... :-))?
>
> I have filed these list of questions with Logitech support, but I have had
> bad experiences with them in the past, so I dont hold out a whole lot of
> hope they will give me *correct* answers :-) Maybe they will surprise me
> and make me a convert though...
>
> Thanks so much in advance for any help,
>
> Joe
> ps I would consider instead buying the MS competing product, but I have
> read
> it wont work at boot time (for configuring bios for instance), and it
> doesnt
> have a rechargeable mouse.
>
>
>