2nd SP2 Connection

[Jude Lucien]

I recently had bit of a nightmare installing SP2. I am
connected to the internet via DSL. After SP2 installed it
created a network connection called "LAN or High Speed
Internet", in addition to the Broadband connection I
already had set up.

When I originally installed XP, the broadband connection
worked fine. After installing SP2, my connection was
spotty at best, and then became useless. No matter what I
did in the configurations, my broadband connection would
not work.

After reinstalling XP, then installing SP2 straight from a
cd, and then creating the broadband connection, everything
is fine.

My question is why is that LAN connection there? What
does it do? How does it work? You can't delete it. It
just sits there in the systray with an exclamation point
on it saying "Limited or no connectivity".

If anyone can help me understand what my system is doing I
would really appreciate it.

[CMOS]

Never install any kind of software when you have a network connection still
active on the system, it is constantly getting a signal and can cause the
software, especially a SP1 or SP2 not to install correctly, it is best to
install the SP from the cd that Microsoft will send to you.

"Jude Lucien" wrote:

> I recently had bit of a nightmare installing SP2. I am
> connected to the internet via DSL. After SP2 installed it
> created a network connection called "LAN or High Speed
> Internet", in addition to the Broadband connection I
> already had set up.
>
> When I originally installed XP, the broadband connection
> worked fine. After installing SP2, my connection was
> spotty at best, and then became useless. No matter what I
> did in the configurations, my broadband connection would
> not work.
>
> After reinstalling XP, then installing SP2 straight from a
> cd, and then creating the broadband connection, everything
> is fine.
>
> My question is why is that LAN connection there? What
> does it do? How does it work? You can't delete it. It
> just sits there in the systray with an exclamation point
> on it saying "Limited or no connectivity".
>
> If anyone can help me understand what my system is doing I
> would really appreciate it.
>

[Hans-Georg Michna]

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:00:17 -0700, "Jude Lucien"
> wrote:

>I recently had bit of a nightmare installing SP2. I am
>connected to the internet via DSL. After SP2 installed it
>created a network connection called "LAN or High Speed
>Internet", in addition to the Broadband connection I
>already had set up.
>
>When I originally installed XP, the broadband connection
>worked fine. After installing SP2, my connection was
>spotty at best, and then became useless. No matter what I
>did in the configurations, my broadband connection would
>not work.
>
>After reinstalling XP, then installing SP2 straight from a
>cd, and then creating the broadband connection, everything
>is fine.
>
>My question is why is that LAN connection there? What
>does it do? How does it work? You can't delete it. It
>just sits there in the systray with an exclamation point
>on it saying "Limited or no connectivity".

Jude,

it is there because you have network-capable adapter hardware in
your computer. What adapter is it? The network connection should
tell.

Hans-Georg

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[Jude Lucien]

>-----Original Message-----
>On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:00:17 -0700, "Jude Lucien"
> wrote:
>
>>I recently had bit of a nightmare installing SP2. I am
>>connected to the internet via DSL. After SP2 installed
it
>>created a network connection called "LAN or High Speed
>>Internet", in addition to the Broadband connection I
>>already had set up.
>>
>>When I originally installed XP, the broadband connection
>>worked fine. After installing SP2, my connection was
>>spotty at best, and then became useless. No matter what
I
>>did in the configurations, my broadband connection would
>>not work.
>>
>>After reinstalling XP, then installing SP2 straight from
a
>>cd, and then creating the broadband connection,
everything
>>is fine.
>>
>>My question is why is that LAN connection there? What
>>does it do? How does it work? You can't delete it. It
>>just sits there in the systray with an exclamation point
>>on it saying "Limited or no connectivity".
>
>Jude,
>
>it is there because you have network-capable adapter
hardware in
>your computer. What adapter is it? The network connection
should
>tell.
>
>Hans-Georg

Yes, the LAN connection is bound to the ethernet adapter.
The broadband PPPoE connection is not. It wasn't before
SP2.

But the LAN connection was not there before SP2, and the
broadband connection worked fine. So what does it do?
Why is it there? It wasn't needed before so why is it
needed now? According to the icon in the systray it's not
working anyway ("Limited or no connectivity").

Networking is not rocket science but this is defying
logic. Does anyone know where I can get the answer?

Any help appreciated.

[Hans-Georg Michna]

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:08:47 -0700, "Jude Lucien"
> wrote:

>Yes, the LAN connection is bound to the ethernet adapter.
>The broadband PPPoE connection is not. It wasn't before
>SP2.
>
>But the LAN connection was not there before SP2, and the
>broadband connection worked fine. So what does it do?
>Why is it there? It wasn't needed before so why is it
>needed now? According to the icon in the systray it's not
>working anyway ("Limited or no connectivity").
>
>Networking is not rocket science but this is defying
>logic. Does anyone know where I can get the answer?

Jude,

I guess that's because there's an Ethernet adapter in your
computer, probably integrated on the motherboard.

That's not bad---you can network with other computers if you
ever like to do that. Meanwhile you could just disable that
adapter by right-clicking on it in Device Manager and selecting
disable.

Right-clicking on the LAN connection and deactivating that is
another way. I'm not absolutely sure whether that leads to
exactly the same result, but you can try that now much more
easily than I can, since you don't need the thing for the time
being.

For fun, you could look behind your computer and see if you can
spot the RJ-45, 8 contact, Ethernet socket.

Hans-Georg

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[Jude Lucien]

>-----Original Message-----
>On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:08:47 -0700, "Jude Lucien"
> wrote:
>
>>Yes, the LAN connection is bound to the ethernet
adapter.
>>The broadband PPPoE connection is not. It wasn't before
>>SP2.
>>
>>But the LAN connection was not there before SP2, and the
>>broadband connection worked fine. So what does it do?
>>Why is it there? It wasn't needed before so why is it
>>needed now? According to the icon in the systray it's
not
>>working anyway ("Limited or no connectivity").
>>
>>Networking is not rocket science but this is defying
>>logic. Does anyone know where I can get the answer?
>
>Jude,
>
>I guess that's because there's an Ethernet adapter in your
>computer, probably integrated on the motherboard.
>
>That's not bad---you can network with other computers if
you
>ever like to do that. Meanwhile you could just disable
that
>adapter by right-clicking on it in Device Manager and
selecting
>disable.
>
>Right-clicking on the LAN connection and deactivating
that is
>another way. I'm not absolutely sure whether that leads to
>exactly the same result, but you can try that now much
more
>easily than I can, since you don't need the thing for the
time
>being.
>
>For fun, you could look behind your computer and see if
you can
>spot the RJ-45, 8 contact, Ethernet socket.

Hans,

There's no ethernet adapter on the motherboard - I bought
the components and built my computer myself so I know it
for sure.

What I don't get is how a connection that I didn't create
and can't delete, that apparently doesn't work, but is
bound to my ethernet adapter - what is it doing and why is
it there? It is obviously not necessary (broadband
connection worked fine before SP2 and the creation of this
new connection).

I just want to understand how my computer is working and
this whole thing makes no sense.

[Hans-Georg Michna]

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:56:38 -0700, "Jude Lucien"
> wrote:

>There's no ethernet adapter on the motherboard - I bought
>the components and built my computer myself so I know it
>for sure.
>
>What I don't get is how a connection that I didn't create
>and can't delete, that apparently doesn't work, but is
>bound to my ethernet adapter

Jude,

I'm confused now. Is there an Ethernet adapter?

> - what is it doing and why is
>it there? It is obviously not necessary (broadband
>connection worked fine before SP2 and the creation of this
>new connection).
>
>I just want to understand how my computer is working and
>this whole thing makes no sense.

What is the name of the adapter as displayed in the network
connections or in Device Manager?

Have you tried to disable the adapter, whatever it is? If it is
there, Windows will show it. I can't find anything wrong with
that strategy. You don't have to use it, but it is there.

Hans-Georg

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[Trent©]

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:56:38 -0700, "Jude Lucien"
> wrote:


>Hans,
>
>There's no ethernet adapter on the motherboard - I bought
>the components and built my computer myself so I know it
>for sure.
>
>What I don't get is how a connection that I didn't create
>and can't delete, that apparently doesn't work, but is
>bound to my ethernet adapter - what is it doing and why is
>it there? It is obviously not necessary (broadband
>connection worked fine before SP2 and the creation of this
>new connection).
>
>I just want to understand how my computer is working and
>this whole thing makes no sense.

This is just a wild guess, but...

The broadband connection might have been installed by software you got
from the ISP. Then, when sp2 installed, it read the chip on the
NIC...which the broadband software didn't need to do, maybe...since it
installed from software provided.

And you didn't say whether or not you run a router...which would make
things MORE confusing! lol

If you run a router, you should really uninstall any software
connectivity software supplied by your ISP. You don't need it...as
you use the PPPoE on the router.

See if you see both setups if you boot into safe mode.


Have a nice one...

Trent

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