Slipstreaming XP & SP2 CD's - Problems with creating a Bootable CD

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
CD.

I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
..
This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
screen .

However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
all the updates to , and including , SP2.

This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"

In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
but is not a "bootable" disk.

This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
"BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.

Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?

P.S.

I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
blue XP installation procedure.

B.N.

[Gordie]

Hi,
Just a few thoughts.
Have you checked to see if there are any updates for Nero? Also, have you
explored the disc to make sure the boot files are there?

> wrote in message
...
>I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
> both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
> CD.
>
> I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
> the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
> .
> This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
> the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
> in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
> screen .
>
> However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
> the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
> re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
> all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>
> This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
> respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
> changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
> the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>
> In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
> but is not a "bootable" disk.
>
> This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
> "BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.
>
> Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?
>
> P.S.
>
> I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
> with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
> blue XP installation procedure.
>
> B.N.

[Darrell]

Greetings,

I can't really give you an explanation as to why the CD is not "bootable".
I too have created a "slipstreamed" CD but I used a different reference and
it works perfectly. If you like here's the link:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp

" wrote:

> I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
> both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
> CD.
>
> I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
> the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
> ..
> This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
> the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
> in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
> screen .
>
> However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
> the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
> re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
> all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>
> This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
> respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
> changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
> the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>
> In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
> but is not a "bootable" disk.
>
> This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
> "BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.
>
> Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?
>
> P.S.
>
> I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
> with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
> blue XP installation procedure.
>
> B.N.
>

[Ross Durie]

Certain CDROM drives have difficulty booting from CDR/CDRW media. If using a
CDRW then try a CDR. What brand CDs are you using, e.g., Imation? If some el
cheapo brand then stop using them. Otherwise swap out the CDROM drive.

--
Ross
> wrote in message
...
> I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
> both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
> CD.
>
> I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
> the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
> .
> This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
> the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
> in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
> screen .
>
> However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
> the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
> re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
> all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>
> This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
> respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
> changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
> the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>
> In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
> but is not a "bootable" disk.
>
> This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
> "BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.
>
> Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?
>
> P.S.
>
> I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
> with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
> blue XP installation procedure.
>
> B.N.

[NoNoBadDog!]

There is a much easier way to do it...

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=188337


Bobby


> wrote in message
...
>I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
> both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
> CD.
>
> I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
> the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
> .
> This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
> the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
> in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
> screen .
>
> However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
> the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
> re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
> all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>
> This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
> respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
> changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
> the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>
> In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
> but is not a "bootable" disk.
>
> This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
> "BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.
>
> Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?
>
> P.S.
>
> I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
> with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
> blue XP installation procedure.
>
> B.N.

[Road Runner]

Hi ... What happen if you put your slipstreamed disc in your Optical drive
and go to double click the drive , Is there anything there ??
Have a look at this site and compare the 2 to see whether what you done is
the same as this website

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp


> wrote in message
...
>I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
> both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
> CD.
>
> I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
> the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
> .
> This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
> the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
> in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
> screen .
>
> However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
> the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
> re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
> all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>
> This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
> respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
> changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
> the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>
> In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
> but is not a "bootable" disk.
>
> This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
> "BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.
>
> Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?
>
> P.S.
>
> I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
> with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
> blue XP installation procedure.
>
> B.N.

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:18:01 -0500, "Gordie"
> wrote:

>Hi,
>Just a few thoughts.
>Have you checked to see if there are any updates for Nero?

Yes I did


Also, have you
>explored the disc to make sure the boot files are there?

Ah! - now that is what I'd like to do but don't know how !

How do I do that - I opened the disk in Windows Explorer - but what
files exactly am I looking for here , please ?

B.N.

[Eric McG]

In following the procedure for using Nero, there's a step that you may have
missed that could cause this. It's in the section where you're setting the
criteria for the boot image. The warning on the web page states:

"Set [Number of Loaded Sectors] to 4 (Failing to set Number of Loaded Sectors to
4 will make the CD unbootable)"



This may have been the cause.



Here's a link to a utility that takes all pain out of doing this. You just point
& click and it creates the final product (merged and bootable) in an ISO image
for easy burning:

http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html
--
Hope this helps..Reply in newsgroup only.
Eric McGillicudy


> wrote in message
...

> I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
> both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
> CD.
>
> I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
> the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
> .
> This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
> the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
> in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
> screen .
>
> However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
> the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
> re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
> all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>
> This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
> respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
> changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
> the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>
> In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
> but is not a "bootable" disk.
>
> This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
> "BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.
>
> Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?
>
> P.S.
>
> I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
> with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
> blue XP installation procedure.
>
> B.N.

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:32:38 -0500, "Road Runner" >
wrote:

>Hi ... What happen if you put your slipstreamed disc in your Optical drive
>and go to double click the drive , Is there anything there ??

If you mean my CD drive by "Optical drive" then , when I put the
slipstreamed disk into the CD drive and double click the drive I get
the normal XP Installation blue screen which you get when you insert
the normal XP Installation CD .

But what I don't get is , on bootup , (after the BIOS is set to boot
initially from the CD drive) , the message " click any key to boot
from a CD " - i.e it would appear that the created CD is NOT a
bootable one.


>Have a look at this site and compare the 2 to see whether what you done is
>the same as this website
>
>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp

I have done and it seems to be an identical procedure from the one I
followed .

The CD which I have created would seem to be able to re-install XP
with SP2 incorporated - ( although I can't be certain of this as I
haven't let it continue to the end of its operation ) - but is NOT
capable of booting a PC which has a formatted hard drive - thereby
loosing the whole "raison d'etre" for the creation of such a disk in
that such a disk should be capable of combining XP installation
complete with SP2 AND be bootable !

B.N.

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:23:39 +1300, "Ross Durie"
> wrote:

>Certain CDROM drives have difficulty booting from CDR/CDRW media. If using a
>CDRW then try a CDR. What brand CDs are you using, e.g., Imation? If some el
>cheapo brand then stop using them. Otherwise swap out the CDROM drive.

I use ones called " World Memory CD-R 80/700 mb 48X"

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:30:46 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
<mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:

>There is a much easier way to do it...
>
>http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=188337

Yes thanks - thats Autostreamer - I tried that but that didn't produce
a BOOTABLE CD either .

[Eric McG]

Maybe there's something wrong with your Windows XP CD? Is it an original or is
it a copy that you're using? Either case, does it bootup properly?

--
Hope this helps..Reply in newsgroup only.
Eric McGillicudy

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:30:46 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:
>
> >There is a much easier way to do it...
> >
> >http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=188337
>
> Yes thanks - thats Autostreamer - I tried that but that didn't produce
> a BOOTABLE CD either .
>

[NoNoBadDog!]

If Autostreamer didn't produce a bootable CD (which it does for myself and
everyone that I know that uses it), then you have other issues causing your
problem. Is your computer set to boot from the optical drive?
Bobby

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:30:46 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:
>
>>There is a much easier way to do it...
>>
>>http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=188337
>
> Yes thanks - thats Autostreamer - I tried that but that didn't produce
> a BOOTABLE CD either .
>

[JAX]

The information provided on the following link worked for me. That is, after
several failures with others.
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp

HTH, JAX

> wrote in message
...
>I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
> both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
> CD.
>
> I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
> the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
> .
> This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
> the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
> in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
> screen .
>
> However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
> the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
> re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
> all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>
> This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
> respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
> changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
> the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>
> In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
> but is not a "bootable" disk.
>
> This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
> "BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.
>
> Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?
>
> P.S.
>
> I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
> with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
> blue XP installation procedure.
>
> B.N.

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:08:35 -0500, "Eric McG" >
wrote:

>Maybe there's something wrong with your Windows XP CD? Is it an original or is
>it a copy that you're using? Either case, does it bootup properly?

Its an original and it does boot properly

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:42:47 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
<mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:

>If Autostreamer didn't produce a bootable CD (which it does for myself and
>everyone that I know that uses it), then you have other issues causing your
>problem. Is your computer set to boot from the optical drive?
>Bobby

I'm not sure what you mean by "optical drive" - I have it set to boot
initially from the CD drive which , when the normal XP Pro
Installation Disk is inserted , produces the expected " press any key
to boot from CD " message but I don't get this message when the
slipstreamed CD is inserted - it just goes into the XP Setup screen
eventually .

What I , therefore , assume happens here is that - the PC first checks
the CD Rom drive for a bootable CD ( if it finds such a CD I then get
the " press any key....etc " message ) and if it doesn't find such a
disk it then boots from the hard drive as it would normally do.

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:02:36 -0500, "Eric McG" >
wrote:

>In following the procedure for using Nero, there's a step that you may have
>missed that could cause this. It's in the section where you're setting the
>criteria for the boot image. The warning on the web page states:
>
>"Set [Number of Loaded Sectors] to 4 (Failing to set Number of Loaded Sectors to
>4 will make the CD unbootable)"
>
>
>
>This may have been the cause.

Yes I noticed that and was very careful to ensure I did select the
Loaded Sections to 4 .

I have even repeated the whole process , including this section , but
with the same results.
>
>
>
>Here's a link to a utility that takes all pain out of doing this. You just point
>& click and it creates the final product (merged and bootable) in an ISO image
>for easy burning:
>
>http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html

Yes I used this method also but I still don't get the " select any key
message........" on bootup which you do get if the PC detects a
bootable CD

I'll try using Nero with a blank CD-R and just creat a simple Bootable
CD and see what happens.

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:39:10 -0700, "JAX" > wrote:

>The information provided on the following link worked for me. That is, after
>several failures with others.
>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp
>
>HTH, JAX

Thanks , JAX ( and all the others who've given suggestions here ) I'll
try that.

[JAX]

You're welcome. I hope it works as well for you as it did for me.

JAX

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:39:10 -0700, "JAX" > wrote:
>
>>The information provided on the following link worked for me. That is,
>>after
>>several failures with others.
>>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp
>>
>>HTH, JAX
>
> Thanks , JAX ( and all the others who've given suggestions here ) I'll
> try that.
>

[Alex Nichol]

wrote:

>.
>This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
>the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
>in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
>screen .
>
>However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
>the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
>re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
>all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>
>This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
>respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
>changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
>the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>
>In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
>but is not a "bootable" disk.
>
>This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
>"BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.

When you do so, and put the folders of files needed in the 'compilation'
pane of Nero, it is essential when you Burn to take the option to
'Finalize CD' or it will not boot


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 14:59:37 +0000, Alex Nichol
> wrote:

I have just come to the conclusion that the problem I've got here is
most probably not a hardware problem after all - I think the trouble
lies with my CD Rom drive as its started to fail to recognise CD's
when they are inserted into the drive - I'm only just remembering now
that this intermittent failure started some time ago but has been
infrequent enough initially for me to have forgotten about it - thus
I've been convinced the burned CD failed to boot due to some error in
either the software and/or my use of the procedures.

I've just blown some compressed air into the drive to see whether I
could clean out any dust which may have been obscuring the laser -
this got the " click any key to continue ...." message with the
slipstreamed CD but nothing further- this would suggest that the CD is
, in fact , bootable but perhaps the drive is failing.

I'll try the disk in another drive when I get to one.

Sorry to have wasted evrybody's time on this - thanks to all who have
replied.

B.N.

[Alex Nichol]

wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 14:59:37 +0000, Alex Nichol
> wrote:
>
>I have just come to the conclusion that the problem I've got here is
>most probably not a hardware problem after all

etc

Please note that I did *not* write that - the poster has omitted
everything from my post except the author. Please be careful not to
attribute quotes to the wrong people; it did not matter much here, but
it could do


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[admiral_victory@iol.ie]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:56:53 +0000, Alex Nichol
> wrote:
Alex,
I apologise as I appear to have placed my comments in the wrong bit of
the thread thereby implying that they came from you - my mistake
entirely - particularly embarassing as I have benefited on several
occassions from your advice .

Sincerely,

B.N.

[Eric McG]

Although it was probably clear to most readers who was doing the talking, I
believe that Nichol was referring to the fact that you had deleted his message
text but retained his message header, so it appeared to read; "Alex
Nichol...wrote:" which was then followed by your message.

You duplicated this again when you apologized. It may be a feature/option of
your newsreader.

--
Hope this helps..Reply in newsgroup only.
Eric McGillicudy

> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:56:53 +0000, Alex Nichol
> > wrote:
> Alex,
> I apologise as I appear to have placed my comments in the wrong bit of
> the thread thereby implying that they came from you - my mistake
> entirely - particularly embarassing as I have benefited on several
> occassions from your advice .
>
> Sincerely,
>
> B.N.

[Peter]

This worked great for me too. Just follow the instructions (it doesn't take
as long as it seem it might)

Peter


"JAX" > wrote in message
...
> The information provided on the following link worked for me. That is,
> after several failures with others.
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_slipstream.asp
>
> HTH, JAX
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have been attempting to create a "slipstream" CD which incorporates
>> both the original XP Pro Installation CD and the SP2 CD data into one
>> CD.
>>
>> I've found many references to this process and am . at present , using
>> the advice given in the web page " www.theeldergeek.com"
>> .
>> This advice seems to have succeeded in producing a CD which meets all
>> the requirements in that I now have burned a CD which , when inserted
>> in the CD drive , initiates the normal XP installation preliminary
>> screen .
>>
>> However the whole idea behind creating such a disk is to be able , in
>> the event of a re-format of the h/d , to insert just one CD which
>> re-boots the PC and then procedes to install , not just XP Pro , but
>> all the updates to , and including , SP2.
>>
>> This CD , on checking its alleged "bootable" qualities , fails in this
>> respect as , on inserting it and then re-booting the PC after having
>> changed the BIOS to boot initially from the CD drive , fails to give
>> the message :- " Click any key to boot from the CD"
>>
>> In other words , it would seem that this disk is a "slipstreamed" disk
>> but is not a "bootable" disk.
>>
>> This is in spite of using the last stages of this process to burn a
>> "BOOTABLE" CD with NERO.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest why the created disk is not "bootable"?
>>
>> P.S.
>>
>> I inserted the "normal" XP Pro Installation Disk and re-booted the PC
>> with this in the CD drive and this CD does re-boot into the normal
>> blue XP installation procedure.
>>
>> B.N.
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