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Marcus

December 11th 03, 01:56 PM

Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person with
the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage Lt 3D
Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about this i
would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be able to
see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn messenger
5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
automatically when left idol for a while, i have cable
internet and i have had no internet problems at all, any
ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and windows
messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to fix it.

thanks jonathon

Jonathan Kay [MVP]

December 11th 03, 01:56 PM

Greetings Marcus,

No word yet on the ATI Rage bug, but yes, someone else has had the same issue.

As for random logging out, are you using ZoneAlarm? If so, try putting it into the "Medium"
setting and then see if the problem disappears. Other third-party firewall applications
(like Norton Internet Security, Sygate, etc.) should have Messenger set to 'Permit All' or
'Allow All'.

If you're using a router, make sure you have the latest firmware from your router
manufacturer. As well, you might try setting your computers local IP into the routers DMZ
setting (see documentation on how to do this).

This can also happen due to a lack of bandwidth. If you have Kazaa, WinMX, GNUtella or some
other file sharing-type application or something else that takes considerable amounts of
bandwidth, you may want to shut it down and see if that helps the situation (even if you're
using a high speed connection, these applications can use most of the resources of your
connection).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Marcus" > wrote in message
...
> Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
> messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person with
> the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage Lt 3D
> Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about this i
> would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be able to
> see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn messenger
> 5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
> messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
> automatically when left idol for a while, i have cable
> internet and i have had no internet problems at all, any
> ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and windows
> messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to fix it.
>
> thanks jonathon
>

Marcus

December 11th 03, 01:57 PM

Greetings (Microsoft Most Valuable Professional [MVP]
Jonathon) "I think i got your title right"

I managed to fix the problem with random signing out by
changing my lan settings under internet explorer, msn
messenger 6 is still an ongoing troublesome issue, I
still cant be sure its an ATI issue thats causing the
freeze although it seems likely, with some research and
trying a few things, by disabling my video card under
device manager and using windows xp default driver the
problem didnt go away, however when i uninstalled windows
service pack 1 the problem was not as bad, i would be
able to use msn messenger 6 for about half an hour,
instead of it freezing after i open a conversation
window, very stange behaviour indeed. Yet msn messenger 5
runs perfectly fine without any problems or errors at
all. Any further ideas about what is behind this mystery.

Thanks heaps for ur ongoing help and assistance.

>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Marcus,
>
>No word yet on the ATI Rage bug, but yes, someone else
has had the same issue.
>
>As for random logging out, are you using ZoneAlarm? If
so, try putting it into the "Medium"
>setting and then see if the problem disappears. Other
third-party firewall applications
>(like Norton Internet Security, Sygate, etc.) should
have Messenger set to 'Permit All' or
>'Allow All'.
>
>If you're using a router, make sure you have the latest
firmware from your router
>manufacturer. As well, you might try setting your
computers local IP into the routers DMZ
>setting (see documentation on how to do this).
>
>This can also happen due to a lack of bandwidth. If you
have Kazaa, WinMX, GNUtella or some
>other file sharing-type application or something else
that takes considerable amounts of
>bandwidth, you may want to shut it down and see if that
helps the situation (even if you're
>using a high speed connection, these applications can
use most of the resources of your
>connection).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Marcus" > wrote in
message
...
>> Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
>> messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person with
>> the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage Lt
3D
>> Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about this i
>> would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be able
to
>> see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn
messenger
>> 5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
>> messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
>> automatically when left idol for a while, i have cable
>> internet and i have had no internet problems at all,
any
>> ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and windows
>> messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to fix
it.
>>
>> thanks jonathon
>>
>
>
>.
>

Marcus

December 11th 03, 01:58 PM

Jonathan Kay [MVP]

December 11th 03, 02:01 PM

Hi Marcus,

Yes, that's exactly right =).

Some interesting results -- what I'd be interested in knowing is if you could reproduce the
"freeze" under Safe Mode (with Networking).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Marcus" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings (Microsoft Most Valuable Professional [MVP]
> Jonathon) "I think i got your title right"
>
> I managed to fix the problem with random signing out by
> changing my lan settings under internet explorer, msn
> messenger 6 is still an ongoing troublesome issue, I
> still cant be sure its an ATI issue thats causing the
> freeze although it seems likely, with some research and
> trying a few things, by disabling my video card under
> device manager and using windows xp default driver the
> problem didnt go away, however when i uninstalled windows
> service pack 1 the problem was not as bad, i would be
> able to use msn messenger 6 for about half an hour,
> instead of it freezing after i open a conversation
> window, very stange behaviour indeed. Yet msn messenger 5
> runs perfectly fine without any problems or errors at
> all. Any further ideas about what is behind this mystery.
>
> Thanks heaps for ur ongoing help and assistance.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings Marcus,
> >
> >No word yet on the ATI Rage bug, but yes, someone else
> has had the same issue.
> >
> >As for random logging out, are you using ZoneAlarm? If
> so, try putting it into the "Medium"
> >setting and then see if the problem disappears. Other
> third-party firewall applications
> >(like Norton Internet Security, Sygate, etc.) should
> have Messenger set to 'Permit All' or
> >'Allow All'.
> >
> >If you're using a router, make sure you have the latest
> firmware from your router
> >manufacturer. As well, you might try setting your
> computers local IP into the routers DMZ
> >setting (see documentation on how to do this).
> >
> >This can also happen due to a lack of bandwidth. If you
> have Kazaa, WinMX, GNUtella or some
> >other file sharing-type application or something else
> that takes considerable amounts of
> >bandwidth, you may want to shut it down and see if that
> helps the situation (even if you're
> >using a high speed connection, these applications can
> use most of the resources of your
> >connection).
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >"Marcus" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
> >> messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person with
> >> the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage Lt
> 3D
> >> Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about this i
> >> would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be able
> to
> >> see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn
> messenger
> >> 5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
> >> messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
> >> automatically when left idol for a while, i have cable
> >> internet and i have had no internet problems at all,
> any
> >> ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and windows
> >> messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to fix
> it.
> >>
> >> thanks jonathon
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >
>

Marcus

December 11th 03, 02:14 PM

Hello Jonathon

My computer has trouble starting up with safe mode with
networking it has a similar freeze to msn messenger 6,
very strange, also when I untick animate windows when
maximising and minimising under performance msn messenger
6 no longer freezes when i maximise and minimise instead
it freezes a couple of minutes into the conversation.
Sounds to me like a very dodgy video driver. and
unfortunately the only one available is the one on the
windows xp pro cd. any further ideas

thanks jonathon

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Marcus,
>
>Yes, that's exactly right =).
>
>Some interesting results -- what I'd be interested in
knowing is if you could reproduce the
>"freeze" under Safe Mode (with Networking).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Marcus" > wrote in
message
...
>> Greetings (Microsoft Most Valuable Professional [MVP]
>> Jonathon) "I think i got your title right"
>>
>> I managed to fix the problem with random signing out by
>> changing my lan settings under internet explorer, msn
>> messenger 6 is still an ongoing troublesome issue, I
>> still cant be sure its an ATI issue thats causing the
>> freeze although it seems likely, with some research and
>> trying a few things, by disabling my video card under
>> device manager and using windows xp default driver the
>> problem didnt go away, however when i uninstalled
windows
>> service pack 1 the problem was not as bad, i would be
>> able to use msn messenger 6 for about half an hour,
>> instead of it freezing after i open a conversation
>> window, very stange behaviour indeed. Yet msn
messenger 5
>> runs perfectly fine without any problems or errors at
>> all. Any further ideas about what is behind this
mystery.
>>
>> Thanks heaps for ur ongoing help and assistance.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Marcus,
>> >
>> >No word yet on the ATI Rage bug, but yes, someone else
>> has had the same issue.
>> >
>> >As for random logging out, are you using ZoneAlarm?
If
>> so, try putting it into the "Medium"
>> >setting and then see if the problem disappears. Other
>> third-party firewall applications
>> >(like Norton Internet Security, Sygate, etc.) should
>> have Messenger set to 'Permit All' or
>> >'Allow All'.
>> >
>> >If you're using a router, make sure you have the
latest
>> firmware from your router
>> >manufacturer. As well, you might try setting your
>> computers local IP into the routers DMZ
>> >setting (see documentation on how to do this).
>> >
>> >This can also happen due to a lack of bandwidth. If
you
>> have Kazaa, WinMX, GNUtella or some
>> >other file sharing-type application or something else
>> that takes considerable amounts of
>> >bandwidth, you may want to shut it down and see if
that
>> helps the situation (even if you're
>> >using a high speed connection, these applications can
>> use most of the resources of your
>> >connection).
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Marcus" > wrote
in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
>> >> messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person
with
>> >> the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage
Lt
>> 3D
>> >> Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about
this i
>> >> would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be
able
>> to
>> >> see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn
>> messenger
>> >> 5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
>> >> messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
>> >> automatically when left idol for a while, i have
cable
>> >> internet and i have had no internet problems at all,
>> any
>> >> ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and
windows
>> >> messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to
fix
>> it.
>> >>
>> >> thanks jonathon
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>>
>
>
>.
>

Marcus

December 11th 03, 02:14 PM

Hello Jonathon

My computer has trouble starting up with safe mode with
networking it has a similar freeze to msn messenger 6,
very strange, also when I untick animate windows when
maximising and minimising under performance msn messenger
6 no longer freezes when i maximise and minimise instead
it freezes a couple of minutes into the conversation.
Sounds to me like a very dodgy video driver. and
unfortunately the only one available is the one on the
windows xp pro cd. any further ideas?

thanks jonathon

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Marcus,
>
>Yes, that's exactly right =).
>
>Some interesting results -- what I'd be interested in
knowing is if you could reproduce the
>"freeze" under Safe Mode (with Networking).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Marcus" > wrote in
message
...
>> Greetings (Microsoft Most Valuable Professional [MVP]
>> Jonathon) "I think i got your title right"
>>
>> I managed to fix the problem with random signing out by
>> changing my lan settings under internet explorer, msn
>> messenger 6 is still an ongoing troublesome issue, I
>> still cant be sure its an ATI issue thats causing the
>> freeze although it seems likely, with some research and
>> trying a few things, by disabling my video card under
>> device manager and using windows xp default driver the
>> problem didnt go away, however when i uninstalled
windows
>> service pack 1 the problem was not as bad, i would be
>> able to use msn messenger 6 for about half an hour,
>> instead of it freezing after i open a conversation
>> window, very stange behaviour indeed. Yet msn
messenger 5
>> runs perfectly fine without any problems or errors at
>> all. Any further ideas about what is behind this
mystery.
>>
>> Thanks heaps for ur ongoing help and assistance.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Marcus,
>> >
>> >No word yet on the ATI Rage bug, but yes, someone else
>> has had the same issue.
>> >
>> >As for random logging out, are you using ZoneAlarm?
If
>> so, try putting it into the "Medium"
>> >setting and then see if the problem disappears. Other
>> third-party firewall applications
>> >(like Norton Internet Security, Sygate, etc.) should
>> have Messenger set to 'Permit All' or
>> >'Allow All'.
>> >
>> >If you're using a router, make sure you have the
latest
>> firmware from your router
>> >manufacturer. As well, you might try setting your
>> computers local IP into the routers DMZ
>> >setting (see documentation on how to do this).
>> >
>> >This can also happen due to a lack of bandwidth. If
you
>> have Kazaa, WinMX, GNUtella or some
>> >other file sharing-type application or something else
>> that takes considerable amounts of
>> >bandwidth, you may want to shut it down and see if
that
>> helps the situation (even if you're
>> >using a high speed connection, these applications can
>> use most of the resources of your
>> >connection).
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Marcus" > wrote
in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
>> >> messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person
with
>> >> the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage
Lt
>> 3D
>> >> Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about
this i
>> >> would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be
able
>> to
>> >> see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn
>> messenger
>> >> 5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
>> >> messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
>> >> automatically when left idol for a while, i have
cable
>> >> internet and i have had no internet problems at all,
>> any
>> >> ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and
windows
>> >> messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to
fix
>> it.
>> >>
>> >> thanks jonathon
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>>
>
>
>.
>
..

Marcus

December 11th 03, 02:16 PM

Hello Jonathon

My computer has trouble starting up with safe mode with
networking it has a similar freeze to msn messenger 6,
very strange, also when I untick animate windows when
maximising and minimising under performance msn messenger
6 no longer freezes when i maximise and minimise instead
it freezes a couple of minutes into the conversation.
Sounds to me like a very dodgy video driver. and
unfortunately the only one available is the one on the
windows xp pro cd. any further ideas?

thanks jonathon

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Marcus,
>
>Yes, that's exactly right =).
>
>Some interesting results -- what I'd be interested in
knowing is if you could reproduce the
>"freeze" under Safe Mode (with Networking).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Marcus" > wrote in
message
...
>> Greetings (Microsoft Most Valuable Professional [MVP]
>> Jonathon) "I think i got your title right"
>>
>> I managed to fix the problem with random signing out by
>> changing my lan settings under internet explorer, msn
>> messenger 6 is still an ongoing troublesome issue, I
>> still cant be sure its an ATI issue thats causing the
>> freeze although it seems likely, with some research and
>> trying a few things, by disabling my video card under
>> device manager and using windows xp default driver the
>> problem didnt go away, however when i uninstalled
windows
>> service pack 1 the problem was not as bad, i would be
>> able to use msn messenger 6 for about half an hour,
>> instead of it freezing after i open a conversation
>> window, very stange behaviour indeed. Yet msn
messenger 5
>> runs perfectly fine without any problems or errors at
>> all. Any further ideas about what is behind this
mystery.
>>
>> Thanks heaps for ur ongoing help and assistance.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Marcus,
>> >
>> >No word yet on the ATI Rage bug, but yes, someone else
>> has had the same issue.
>> >
>> >As for random logging out, are you using ZoneAlarm?
If
>> so, try putting it into the "Medium"
>> >setting and then see if the problem disappears. Other
>> third-party firewall applications
>> >(like Norton Internet Security, Sygate, etc.) should
>> have Messenger set to 'Permit All' or
>> >'Allow All'.
>> >
>> >If you're using a router, make sure you have the
latest
>> firmware from your router
>> >manufacturer. As well, you might try setting your
>> computers local IP into the routers DMZ
>> >setting (see documentation on how to do this).
>> >
>> >This can also happen due to a lack of bandwidth. If
you
>> have Kazaa, WinMX, GNUtella or some
>> >other file sharing-type application or something else
>> that takes considerable amounts of
>> >bandwidth, you may want to shut it down and see if
that
>> helps the situation (even if you're
>> >using a high speed connection, these applications can
>> use most of the resources of your
>> >connection).
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Marcus" > wrote
in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
>> >> messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person
with
>> >> the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage
Lt
>> 3D
>> >> Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about
this i
>> >> would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be
able
>> to
>> >> see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn
>> messenger
>> >> 5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
>> >> messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
>> >> automatically when left idol for a while, i have
cable
>> >> internet and i have had no internet problems at all,
>> any
>> >> ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and
windows
>> >> messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to
fix
>> it.
>> >>
>> >> thanks jonathon
>> >>

Marcus

December 11th 03, 02:18 PM

Hello Jonathon,
sorry to bother you again,

My computer has trouble starting up with safe mode with
networking it has a similar freeze to msn messenger 6,
very strange, also when I untick animate windows when
maximising and minimising under performance msn messenger
6 no longer freezes when i maximise and minimise instead
it freezes a couple of minutes into the conversation.
Sounds to me like a very dodgy video driver and
unfortunately the only one available is the one on the
windows xp pro cd. any further ideas?

thanks for ur ongoing help

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Marcus,
>
>Yes, that's exactly right =).
>
>Some interesting results -- what I'd be interested in
knowing is if you could reproduce the
>"freeze" under Safe Mode (with Networking).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Marcus" > wrote in
message
...
>> Greetings (Microsoft Most Valuable Professional [MVP]
>> Jonathon) "I think i got your title right"
>>
>> I managed to fix the problem with random signing out by
>> changing my lan settings under internet explorer, msn
>> messenger 6 is still an ongoing troublesome issue, I
>> still cant be sure its an ATI issue thats causing the
>> freeze although it seems likely, with some research and
>> trying a few things, by disabling my video card under
>> device manager and using windows xp default driver the
>> problem didnt go away, however when i uninstalled
windows
>> service pack 1 the problem was not as bad, i would be
>> able to use msn messenger 6 for about half an hour,
>> instead of it freezing after i open a conversation
>> window, very stange behaviour indeed. Yet msn
messenger 5
>> runs perfectly fine without any problems or errors at
>> all. Any further ideas about what is behind this
mystery.
>>
>> Thanks heaps for ur ongoing help and assistance.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Marcus,
>> >
>> >No word yet on the ATI Rage bug, but yes, someone else
>> has had the same issue.
>> >
>> >As for random logging out, are you using ZoneAlarm?
If
>> so, try putting it into the "Medium"
>> >setting and then see if the problem disappears. Other
>> third-party firewall applications
>> >(like Norton Internet Security, Sygate, etc.) should
>> have Messenger set to 'Permit All' or
>> >'Allow All'.
>> >
>> >If you're using a router, make sure you have the
latest
>> firmware from your router
>> >manufacturer. As well, you might try setting your
>> computers local IP into the routers DMZ
>> >setting (see documentation on how to do this).
>> >
>> >This can also happen due to a lack of bandwidth. If
you
>> have Kazaa, WinMX, GNUtella or some
>> >other file sharing-type application or something else
>> that takes considerable amounts of
>> >bandwidth, you may want to shut it down and see if
that
>> helps the situation (even if you're
>> >using a high speed connection, these applications can
>> use most of the resources of your
>> >connection).
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Marcus" > wrote
in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
>> >> messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person
with
>> >> the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage
Lt
>> 3D
>> >> Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about
this i
>> >> would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be
able
>> to
>> >> see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn
>> messenger
>> >> 5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
>> >> messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
>> >> automatically when left idol for a while, i have
cable
>> >> internet and i have had no internet problems at all,
>> any
>> >> ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and
windows
>> >> messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to
fix
>> it.
>> >>
>> >> thanks jonathon
>> >>

..

Marcus

December 11th 03, 02:20 PM

Hello Jonathon

My computer has trouble starting up with safe mode with
networking it has a similar freeze to msn messenger 6,
very strange, also when I untick animate windows when
maximising and minimising under performance msn messenger
6 no longer freezes when i maximise and minimise instead
it freezes a couple of minutes into the conversation.
Sounds to me like a very dodgy video driver. and
unfortunately the only one available is the one on the
windows xp pro cd. any further ideas?

thanks jonathon

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Marcus,
>
>Yes, that's exactly right =).
>
>Some interesting results -- what I'd be interested in
knowing is if you could reproduce the
>"freeze" under Safe Mode (with Networking).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Marcus" > wrote in
message
...
>> Greetings (Microsoft Most Valuable Professional [MVP]
>> Jonathon) "I think i got your title right"
>>
>> I managed to fix the problem with random signing out by
>> changing my lan settings under internet explorer, msn
>> messenger 6 is still an ongoing troublesome issue, I
>> still cant be sure its an ATI issue thats causing the
>> freeze although it seems likely, with some research and
>> trying a few things, by disabling my video card under
>> device manager and using windows xp default driver the
>> problem didnt go away, however when i uninstalled
windows
>> service pack 1 the problem was not as bad, i would be
>> able to use msn messenger 6 for about half an hour,
>> instead of it freezing after i open a conversation
>> window, very stange behaviour indeed. Yet msn
messenger 5
>> runs perfectly fine without any problems or errors at
>> all. Any further ideas about what is behind this
mystery.
>>
>> Thanks heaps for ur ongoing help and assistance.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Marcus,
>> >
>> >No word yet on the ATI Rage bug, but yes, someone else
>> has had the same issue.
>> >
>> >As for random logging out, are you using ZoneAlarm?
If
>> so, try putting it into the "Medium"
>> >setting and then see if the problem disappears. Other
>> third-party firewall applications
>> >(like Norton Internet Security, Sygate, etc.) should
>> have Messenger set to 'Permit All' or
>> >'Allow All'.
>> >
>> >If you're using a router, make sure you have the
latest
>> firmware from your router
>> >manufacturer. As well, you might try setting your
>> computers local IP into the routers DMZ
>> >setting (see documentation on how to do this).
>> >
>> >This can also happen due to a lack of bandwidth. If
you
>> have Kazaa, WinMX, GNUtella or some
>> >other file sharing-type application or something else
>> that takes considerable amounts of
>> >bandwidth, you may want to shut it down and see if
that
>> helps the situation (even if you're
>> >using a high speed connection, these applications can
>> use most of the resources of your
>> >connection).
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Marcus" > wrote
in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Hey Jonathon ive put a post on here before about msn
>> >> messenger 6 freezing and i noticed another person
with
>> >> the same video card had the same problem (Ati Rage
Lt
>> 3D
>> >> Pro) have u got any ideas what can be done about
this i
>> >> would like to upgrade from msn messenger 5 and be
able
>> to
>> >> see emoticons etc. which i can not see with msn
>> messenger
>> >> 5 and windows messenger 5, also another query is msn
>> >> messenger 5 and windows messenger 5 sign me out
>> >> automatically when left idol for a while, i have
cable
>> >> internet and i have had no internet problems at all,
>> any
>> >> ideas what could be causing msn messenger 5 and
windows
>> >> messenger 5 to sign me out and what i could try to
fix
>> it.
>> >>
>> >> thanks jonathon
>> >>