Windows messenger, MSN messenger

[Paul Westwell]

Can someone explain why there are two products that seem to do the same
thing?

I'm running XP what should I use, what are the differences?

Why do people have both on their XP machines, what are MS playing at ?

Paul

[Paul Westwell]

Whoops.. and I forgot to mention.... I have windows messenger 4.7 something
so why is windows messenger 5 not available from the XP update utility?

Paul



"Paul Westwell" > wrote in message
...
> Can someone explain why there are two products that seem to do the same
> thing?
>
> I'm running XP what should I use, what are the differences?
>
> Why do people have both on their XP machines, what are MS playing at ?
>
> Paul
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Paul,

Currently Windows Messenger 5 is not on WindowsUpdate primary to avoid user problems (a
number of features in 4.7 aren't in 5.0).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Paul Westwell" > wrote in message
...
> Whoops.. and I forgot to mention.... I have windows messenger 4.7 something
> so why is windows messenger 5 not available from the XP update utility?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> "Paul Westwell" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Can someone explain why there are two products that seem to do the same
> > thing?
> >
> > I'm running XP what should I use, what are the differences?
> >
> > Why do people have both on their XP machines, what are MS playing at ?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Paul,

There are several differences, Most notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for display
pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger
supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which one you use is up
to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and likes), however one
thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for
MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application
Sharing, etc.).

MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN
Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies (Exchange
Server, Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).

Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET Messenger service,
..NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Paul Westwell" > wrote in message
...
> Can someone explain why there are two products that seem to do the same
> thing?
>
> I'm running XP what should I use, what are the differences?
>
> Why do people have both on their XP machines, what are MS playing at ?
>
> Paul
>
>

[Bo]

Is anybody know how to audio conversation using messenger
when both sides are using a Router to connect to internet?
Many thanks in advance
Regards,
Bo

>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Paul,
>
>There are several differences, Most notably, MSN
Messenger 6 has support for display
>pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface,
etc. whereas Windows Messenger
>supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM
Server, etc. Which one you use is up
>to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon
your needs and likes), however one
>thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be
installed on Windows XP in order for
>MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote
Assistance, Whiteboard, Application
>Sharing, etc.).
>
>MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies
(Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN
>Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered
around Windows technologies (Exchange
>Server, Office Live Communications Server, Windows
Netmeeting, etc.).
>
>Both clients however can make use of Microsoft
technologies, like the .NET Messenger service,
>..NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Paul Westwell" > wrote
in message
...
>> Can someone explain why there are two products that
seem to do the same
>> thing?
>>
>> I'm running XP what should I use, what are the
differences?
>>
>> Why do people have both on their XP machines, what are
MS playing at ?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Bo,

In order for this scenario to work, both sides either need to have routers which have
built-in Messenger support (which they probably don't if this isn't working) or have support
for Universal Plug and Play (UPnP), which a number of routers do now, but may require a
firmware update.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Bo" > wrote in message ...
> Is anybody know how to audio conversation using messenger
> when both sides are using a Router to connect to internet?
> Many thanks in advance
> Regards,
> Bo
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings Paul,
> >
> >There are several differences, Most notably, MSN
> Messenger 6 has support for display
> >pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface,
> etc. whereas Windows Messenger
> >supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM
> Server, etc. Which one you use is up
> >to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon
> your needs and likes), however one
> >thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be
> installed on Windows XP in order for
> >MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote
> Assistance, Whiteboard, Application
> >Sharing, etc.).
> >
> >MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies
> (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN
> >Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered
> around Windows technologies (Exchange
> >Server, Office Live Communications Server, Windows
> Netmeeting, etc.).
> >
> >Both clients however can make use of Microsoft
> technologies, like the .NET Messenger service,
> >..NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >"Paul Westwell" > wrote
> in message
> ...
> >> Can someone explain why there are two products that
> seem to do the same
> >> thing?
> >>
> >> I'm running XP what should I use, what are the
> differences?
> >>
> >> Why do people have both on their XP machines, what are
> MS playing at ?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Bo]

Thanks for your help. What I know, both of us are using D-
Link routers which claims to be UPnP compatible. However,
they said there are some ports should open in Router.
They asked me to find out which ports should be open and
they can help me. But I don't know where to find out the
port number Msn Messenger use.

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Bo,
>
>In order for this scenario to work, both sides either
need to have routers which have
>built-in Messenger support (which they probably don't if
this isn't working) or have support
>for Universal Plug and Play (UPnP), which a number of
routers do now, but may require a
>firmware update.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Bo" > wrote in message
...
>> Is anybody know how to audio conversation using
messenger
>> when both sides are using a Router to connect to
internet?
>> Many thanks in advance
>> Regards,
>> Bo
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Paul,
>> >
>> >There are several differences, Most notably, MSN
>> Messenger 6 has support for display
>> >pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface,
>> etc. whereas Windows Messenger
>> >supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange
IM
>> Server, etc. Which one you use is up
>> >to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based
upon
>> your needs and likes), however one
>> >thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be
>> installed on Windows XP in order for
>> >MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote
>> Assistance, Whiteboard, Application
>> >Sharing, etc.).
>> >
>> >MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies
>> (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN
>> >Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered
>> around Windows technologies (Exchange
>> >Server, Office Live Communications Server, Windows
>> Netmeeting, etc.).
>> >
>> >Both clients however can make use of Microsoft
>> technologies, like the .NET Messenger service,
>> >..NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Paul Westwell" >
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>> in message
>> >news:2Nkhb.9177$RU4.87545@newsfep4-
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>> >> Can someone explain why there are two products that
>> seem to do the same
>> >> thing?
>> >>
>> >> I'm running XP what should I use, what are the
>> differences?
>> >>
>> >> Why do people have both on their XP machines, what
are
>> MS playing at ?
>> >>
>> >> Paul
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
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