What happened to 'Start NetMeeting' link?

[Chris]

We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from various
versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows Messenger 5.0.
Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting" link. Has that
been removed with WM5?

BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows 2000
clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related questions?

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Chris,

It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down Windows Messenger
(right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click Exit), then download and
run this .reg file:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start Netmeeting' in Windows
Messenger.

Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger' newsgroup, and there is
another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Chris" > wrote in message
...
> We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from various
> versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows Messenger 5.0.
> Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting" link. Has that
> been removed with WM5?
>
> BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows 2000
> clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related questions?
>
>

[Chris]

Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is that a
change from earlier versions?

I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I didn't
catch it in my usability testing. :^(


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings Chris,
>
> It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down Windows
Messenger
> (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click
Exit), then download and
> run this .reg file:
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start
Netmeeting' in Windows
> Messenger.
>
> Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger'
newsgroup, and there is
> another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> ...
> > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from various
> > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows Messenger
5.0.
> > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting" link. Has
that
> > been removed with WM5?
> >
> > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows 2000
> > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related
questions?
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Chris,

In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x ran on), the option
wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility mode. However, the
option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes, Netmeeting is off by default
in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in both Windows versions).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Chris" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is that a
> change from earlier versions?
>
> I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I didn't
> catch it in my usability testing. :^(
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings Chris,
> >
> > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down Windows
> Messenger
> > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click
> Exit), then download and
> > run this .reg file:
> > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start
> Netmeeting' in Windows
> > Messenger.
> >
> > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger'
> newsgroup, and there is
> > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from various
> > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows Messenger
> 5.0.
> > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting" link. Has
> that
> > > been removed with WM5?
> > >
> > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows 2000
> > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related
> questions?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Chris]

>However, the option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But
yes, Netmeeting is off by default
in Windows Messenger 5.

What I mean is, NetMeeting was not only "there" in MSN Messenger 4.x on
Windows 2000, but was *on* by default, right?


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Chris,
>
> In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x
ran on), the option
> wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility mode.
However, the
> option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes,
Netmeeting is off by default
> in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in both
Windows versions).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is that a
> > change from earlier versions?
> >
> > I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I didn't
> > catch it in my usability testing. :^(
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings Chris,
> > >
> > > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down
Windows
> > Messenger
> > > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click
> > Exit), then download and
> > > run this .reg file:
> > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start
> > Netmeeting' in Windows
> > > Messenger.
> > >
> > > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger'
> > newsgroup, and there is
> > > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from
various
> > > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows Messenger
> > 5.0.
> > > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting" link.
Has
> > that
> > > > been removed with WM5?
> > > >
> > > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows
2000
> > > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related
> > questions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Chris,

Yes, it was on by default in MSN Messenger 4.x on previous versions of Windows.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Chris" > wrote in message
...
> >However, the option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But
> yes, Netmeeting is off by default
> in Windows Messenger 5.
>
> What I mean is, NetMeeting was not only "there" in MSN Messenger 4.x on
> Windows 2000, but was *on* by default, right?
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x
> ran on), the option
> > wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility mode.
> However, the
> > option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes,
> Netmeeting is off by default
> > in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in both
> Windows versions).
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is that a
> > > change from earlier versions?
> > >
> > > I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I didn't
> > > catch it in my usability testing. :^(
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Greetings Chris,
> > > >
> > > > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down
> Windows
> > > Messenger
> > > > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click
> > > Exit), then download and
> > > > run this .reg file:
> > > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > > > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start
> > > Netmeeting' in Windows
> > > > Messenger.
> > > >
> > > > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger'
> > > newsgroup, and there is
> > > > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from
> various
> > > > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows Messenger
> > > 5.0.
> > > > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting" link.
> Has
> > > that
> > > > > been removed with WM5?
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows
> 2000
> > > > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related
> > > questions?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Chris]

>In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x ran
on), the option wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used
compatibility mode.

What is "compatibility mode"? I believe "Start NetMeeting" was present on
our Windows XP PCs, but I'm not sure.


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Chris,
>
> In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x
ran on), the option
> wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility mode.
However, the
> option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes,
Netmeeting is off by default
> in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in both
Windows versions).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is that a
> > change from earlier versions?
> >
> > I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I didn't
> > catch it in my usability testing. :^(
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings Chris,
> > >
> > > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down
Windows
> > Messenger
> > > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click
> > Exit), then download and
> > > run this .reg file:
> > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start
> > Netmeeting' in Windows
> > > Messenger.
> > >
> > > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger'
> > newsgroup, and there is
> > > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from
various
> > > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows Messenger
> > 5.0.
> > > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting" link.
Has
> > that
> > > > been removed with WM5?
> > > >
> > > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows
2000
> > > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related
> > questions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Chris]

OK, by searching the archives of this newsgroup, I've been able to determine
what 'compatibility mode' is. Question: For standard Windows Messenger 4.7
installs (on WinXP, obviously), is compatibility mode turned on or off? IOW,
for default installs of WN4.7, would "Start NetMeeting" have been present or
not?


"Chris" > wrote in message
...
> >In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x
ran
> on), the option wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used
> compatibility mode.
>
> What is "compatibility mode"? I believe "Start NetMeeting" was present on
> our Windows XP PCs, but I'm not sure.
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x
> ran on), the option
> > wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility
mode.
> However, the
> > option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes,
> Netmeeting is off by default
> > in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in both
> Windows versions).
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is that
a
> > > change from earlier versions?
> > >
> > > I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I
didn't
> > > catch it in my usability testing. :^(
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Greetings Chris,
> > > >
> > > > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down
> Windows
> > > Messenger
> > > > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click
> > > Exit), then download and
> > > > run this .reg file:
> > > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > > > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start
> > > Netmeeting' in Windows
> > > > Messenger.
> > > >
> > > > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger'
> > > newsgroup, and there is
> > > > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from
> various
> > > > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows
Messenger
> > > 5.0.
> > > > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting"
link.
> Has
> > > that
> > > > > been removed with WM5?
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows
> 2000
> > > > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related
> > > questions?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Chris,

As you know, Windows Messenger 4.x is an integral part of Windows XP and as such,
compatibility mode was off (why would you need compatibility mode on for an exclusive Windows
XP application *grin*).

'Start Netmeeting' cannot be present in Windows Messenger 4.x without compatibility mode
engaged -- no exceptions to this that I'm aware of.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Chris" > wrote in message
...
> OK, by searching the archives of this newsgroup, I've been able to determine
> what 'compatibility mode' is. Question: For standard Windows Messenger 4.7
> installs (on WinXP, obviously), is compatibility mode turned on or off? IOW,
> for default installs of WN4.7, would "Start NetMeeting" have been present or
> not?
>
>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x
> ran
> > on), the option wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used
> > compatibility mode.
> >
> > What is "compatibility mode"? I believe "Start NetMeeting" was present on
> > our Windows XP PCs, but I'm not sure.
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > > In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x
> > ran on), the option
> > > wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility
> mode.
> > However, the
> > > option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes,
> > Netmeeting is off by default
> > > in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in both
> > Windows versions).
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is that
> a
> > > > change from earlier versions?
> > > >
> > > > I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I
> didn't
> > > > catch it in my usability testing. :^(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Greetings Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down
> > Windows
> > > > Messenger
> > > > > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click
> > > > Exit), then download and
> > > > > run this .reg file:
> > > > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > > > > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start
> > > > Netmeeting' in Windows
> > > > > Messenger.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger'
> > > > newsgroup, and there is
> > > > > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from
> > various
> > > > > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows
> Messenger
> > > > 5.0.
> > > > > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting"
> link.
> > Has
> > > > that
> > > > > > been removed with WM5?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows
> > 2000
> > > > > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related
> > > > questions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Chris]

Thanks; I just confirmed this myself on a test PC. NetMeeting was NOT
present on our Windows XP PCs--and nobody complained. That gives me some
leverage when trying to explain how we missed this for the Windows 2000
users. :^O


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Chris,
>
> As you know, Windows Messenger 4.x is an integral part of Windows XP and
as such,
> compatibility mode was off (why would you need compatibility mode on for
an exclusive Windows
> XP application *grin*).
>
> 'Start Netmeeting' cannot be present in Windows Messenger 4.x without
compatibility mode
> engaged -- no exceptions to this that I'm aware of.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> ...
> > OK, by searching the archives of this newsgroup, I've been able to
determine
> > what 'compatibility mode' is. Question: For standard Windows Messenger
4.7
> > installs (on WinXP, obviously), is compatibility mode turned on or off?
IOW,
> > for default installs of WN4.7, would "Start NetMeeting" have been
present or
> > not?
> >
> >
> > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > >In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger
4.x
> > ran
> > > on), the option wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used
> > > compatibility mode.
> > >
> > > What is "compatibility mode"? I believe "Start NetMeeting" was present
on
> > > our Windows XP PCs, but I'm not sure.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi Chris,
> > > >
> > > > In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger
4.x
> > > ran on), the option
> > > > wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility
> > mode.
> > > However, the
> > > > option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes,
> > > Netmeeting is off by default
> > > > in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in
both
> > > Windows versions).
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is
that
> > a
> > > > > change from earlier versions?
> > > > >
> > > > > I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I
> > didn't
> > > > > catch it in my usability testing. :^(
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Greetings Chris,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing
down
> > > Windows
> > > > > Messenger
> > > > > > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and
click
> > > > > Exit), then download and
> > > > > > run this .reg file:
> > > > > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > > > > > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see
'Start
> > > > > Netmeeting' in Windows
> > > > > > Messenger.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows
Messenger'
> > > > > newsgroup, and there is
> > > > > > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users)
from
> > > various
> > > > > > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows
> > Messenger
> > > > > 5.0.
> > > > > > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting"
> > link.
> > > Has
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > been removed with WM5?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for
Windows
> > > 2000
> > > > > > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask
WM/W2K-related
> > > > > questions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Chris,

Good plan =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Chris" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks; I just confirmed this myself on a test PC. NetMeeting was NOT
> present on our Windows XP PCs--and nobody complained. That gives me some
> leverage when trying to explain how we missed this for the Windows 2000
> users. :^O
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > As you know, Windows Messenger 4.x is an integral part of Windows XP and
> as such,
> > compatibility mode was off (why would you need compatibility mode on for
> an exclusive Windows
> > XP application *grin*).
> >
> > 'Start Netmeeting' cannot be present in Windows Messenger 4.x without
> compatibility mode
> > engaged -- no exceptions to this that I'm aware of.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > OK, by searching the archives of this newsgroup, I've been able to
> determine
> > > what 'compatibility mode' is. Question: For standard Windows Messenger
> 4.7
> > > installs (on WinXP, obviously), is compatibility mode turned on or off?
> IOW,
> > > for default installs of WN4.7, would "Start NetMeeting" have been
> present or
> > > not?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > >In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger
> 4.x
> > > ran
> > > > on), the option wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used
> > > > compatibility mode.
> > > >
> > > > What is "compatibility mode"? I believe "Start NetMeeting" was present
> on
> > > > our Windows XP PCs, but I'm not sure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Hi Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger
> 4.x
> > > > ran on), the option
> > > > > wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility
> > > mode.
> > > > However, the
> > > > > option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes,
> > > > Netmeeting is off by default
> > > > > in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in
> both
> > > > Windows versions).
> > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is
> that
> > > a
> > > > > > change from earlier versions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I
> > > didn't
> > > > > > catch it in my usability testing. :^(
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
> message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Greetings Chris,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing
> down
> > > > Windows
> > > > > > Messenger
> > > > > > > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and
> click
> > > > > > Exit), then download and
> > > > > > > run this .reg file:
> > > > > > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > > > > > > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see
> 'Start
> > > > > > Netmeeting' in Windows
> > > > > > > Messenger.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows
> Messenger'
> > > > > > newsgroup, and there is
> > > > > > > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users)
> from
> > > > various
> > > > > > > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows
> > > Messenger
> > > > > > 5.0.
> > > > > > > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting"
> > > link.
> > > > Has
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > been removed with WM5?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for
> Windows
> > > > 2000
> > > > > > > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask
> WM/W2K-related
> > > > > > questions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Chris]

I've encountered a situation where your registry key update
(HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client \DisableNM) does *not*
make NetMeeting visible in WM5--at least, on Windows XP PCs.

Since we are still in a mixed W2K/WXP environment, we decided to set
HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client\ DisableCollaborationApps
to 1--thereby disabling "Application Sharing" and "Whiteboard", as well as
hiding these from both the menu and the action pane.

However, even with DisableNM set to 0 (i.e., *don't* disable/hide
NetMeeting), NetMeeting *doesn't* appear on the menu if DisableCollaboration
is also set to 1. It appears that the developers considered NetMeeting to be
a collaboration application--thereby disabling/hiding it based on the
DisableCollaboration setting. What's strange is, not matter what the
DisableCollaboration setting, NetMeeting *does* show up on the action pane
if DisableNM is set to 0! Looks like a bug!

If
HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Messenger\Client\ DisableCollaborationApps
is set to 0 (i.e., *don't* disable/hide collaboration applications), then
"Start NetMeeting"'s visibility/enability is driven by the value of
DisableNM.

This is going to be hard to explain to management!

Chris


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Chris,
>
> In terms of Windows XP (the only operating system Windows Messenger 4.x
ran on), the option
> wasn't there in the previous versions unless you used compatibility mode.
However, the
> option was there in MSN Messenger 4.x on Windows 2000. But yes,
Netmeeting is off by default
> in Windows Messenger 5 (and this registry key turns it back on, in both
Windows versions).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks. So access to NetMeeting is disabled by default in WM5? Is that a
> > change from earlier versions?
> >
> > I wish I had known that before deploying to thousands of users. I didn't
> > catch it in my usability testing. :^(
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings Chris,
> > >
> > > It's still there, you can make this option appear by closing down
Windows
> > Messenger
> > > (right-click its icon in the notification area/system tray and click
> > Exit), then download and
> > > run this .reg file:
> > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/wm5_addnetmeeting.reg
> > > After this, restart Windows Messenger, and you should now see 'Start
> > Netmeeting' in Windows
> > > Messenger.
> > >
> > > Currently this is what would be considered the 'Windows Messenger'
> > newsgroup, and there is
> > > another newsgroup for 'MSN Messenger' (msn.messenger).
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > We migrated our userbase (mostly W2K users; some WXP users) from
various
> > > > versions of MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger to Windows Messenger
> > 5.0.
> > > > Now, users are asking what happened to the "Start NetMeeting" link.
Has
> > that
> > > > been removed with WM5?
> > > >
> > > > BTW, why isn't there a "Windows Messenger" newsgroup for Windows
2000
> > > > clients? Is this newsgroup the best place to ask WM/W2K-related
> > questions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>