Messenger 4.7 vs 5.0

[Sam]

What's the difference between Windows Messenger 4.7 and
5.0? I am thinking about downloading the latest version,
but would like to know what new features Messenger 5.0
includes and if anything has been removed that was in
4.7.

Also, has there been any known problems with Windows
Messenger 5.0?

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Sam,

Firstly, Windows Messenger 5 has support for UPnP file transfers, "digital ink" TabletPC
support, support for both Exchange IM, SIP and the .NET Messenger network as well as several
other tweaks.

What Windows Messenger 5 doesn't have that's in 4.7 is Add-In support, which means there is
no Hotmail, MSN Mobile, or other MSN services that now exist in Windows Messenger 4.7 with
the MSN Add-In.

As for known problems, none out of the ordinary set of Messenger issues.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Sam" > wrote in message
...
> What's the difference between Windows Messenger 4.7 and
> 5.0? I am thinking about downloading the latest version,
> but would like to know what new features Messenger 5.0
> includes and if anything has been removed that was in
> 4.7.
>
> Also, has there been any known problems with Windows
> Messenger 5.0?

[Sam]

Would you recommend users to upgrade to Windows Messenger
5.0?


>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Sam,
>
>Firstly, Windows Messenger 5 has support for UPnP file
transfers, "digital ink" TabletPC
>support, support for both Exchange IM, SIP and the .NET
Messenger network as well as several
>other tweaks.
>
>What Windows Messenger 5 doesn't have that's in 4.7 is
Add-In support, which means there is
>no Hotmail, MSN Mobile, or other MSN services that now
exist in Windows Messenger 4.7 with
>the MSN Add-In.
>
>As for known problems, none out of the ordinary set of
Messenger issues.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Sam" > wrote in
message
...
>> What's the difference between Windows Messenger 4.7 and
>> 5.0? I am thinking about downloading the latest
version,
>> but would like to know what new features Messenger 5.0
>> includes and if anything has been removed that was in
>> 4.7.
>>
>> Also, has there been any known problems with Windows
>> Messenger 5.0?
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Sam,

Depends on the individual users' needs. There's plenty of users which make use of the MSN
features which prefer to just use Windows Messenger 4.7 -- 5.0 isn't a "must have" upgrade.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Sam" > wrote in message
...
> Would you recommend users to upgrade to Windows Messenger
> 5.0?
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings Sam,
> >
> >Firstly, Windows Messenger 5 has support for UPnP file
> transfers, "digital ink" TabletPC
> >support, support for both Exchange IM, SIP and the .NET
> Messenger network as well as several
> >other tweaks.
> >
> >What Windows Messenger 5 doesn't have that's in 4.7 is
> Add-In support, which means there is
> >no Hotmail, MSN Mobile, or other MSN services that now
> exist in Windows Messenger 4.7 with
> >the MSN Add-In.
> >
> >As for known problems, none out of the ordinary set of
> Messenger issues.
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >"Sam" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> What's the difference between Windows Messenger 4.7 and
> >> 5.0? I am thinking about downloading the latest
> version,
> >> but would like to know what new features Messenger 5.0
> >> includes and if anything has been removed that was in
> >> 4.7.
> >>
> >> Also, has there been any known problems with Windows
> >> Messenger 5.0?
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Sam]

Thanks for all the replies. I have another question.

What does renaming the "Messenger" folder do? I was told
to go the following directory and rename it. C:\Program
files\Messenger

Will this disable Windows Messenger?


>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Sam,
>
>Depends on the individual users' needs. There's plenty
of users which make use of the MSN
>features which prefer to just use Windows Messenger 4.7 -
- 5.0 isn't a "must have" upgrade.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>"Sam" > wrote in
message
...
>> Would you recommend users to upgrade to Windows
Messenger
>> 5.0?
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Sam,
>> >
>> >Firstly, Windows Messenger 5 has support for UPnP file
>> transfers, "digital ink" TabletPC
>> >support, support for both Exchange IM, SIP and
the .NET
>> Messenger network as well as several
>> >other tweaks.
>> >
>> >What Windows Messenger 5 doesn't have that's in 4.7 is
>> Add-In support, which means there is
>> >no Hotmail, MSN Mobile, or other MSN services that now
>> exist in Windows Messenger 4.7 with
>> >the MSN Add-In.
>> >
>> >As for known problems, none out of the ordinary set of
>> Messenger issues.
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Sam" > wrote in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> What's the difference between Windows Messenger 4.7
and
>> >> 5.0? I am thinking about downloading the latest
>> version,
>> >> but would like to know what new features Messenger
5.0
>> >> includes and if anything has been removed that was
in
>> >> 4.7.
>> >>
>> >> Also, has there been any known problems with Windows
>> >> Messenger 5.0?
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Sam,

This will stop Windows Messenger from starting (either by you or by other applications) --
this method is *not* recommended.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Sam" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for all the replies. I have another question.
>
> What does renaming the "Messenger" folder do? I was told
> to go the following directory and rename it. C:\Program
> files\Messenger
>
> Will this disable Windows Messenger?
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Sam,
> >
> >Depends on the individual users' needs. There's plenty
> of users which make use of the MSN
> >features which prefer to just use Windows Messenger 4.7 -
> - 5.0 isn't a "must have" upgrade.
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> >"Sam" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Would you recommend users to upgrade to Windows
> Messenger
> >> 5.0?
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Greetings Sam,
> >> >
> >> >Firstly, Windows Messenger 5 has support for UPnP file
> >> transfers, "digital ink" TabletPC
> >> >support, support for both Exchange IM, SIP and
> the .NET
> >> Messenger network as well as several
> >> >other tweaks.
> >> >
> >> >What Windows Messenger 5 doesn't have that's in 4.7 is
> >> Add-In support, which means there is
> >> >no Hotmail, MSN Mobile, or other MSN services that now
> >> exist in Windows Messenger 4.7 with
> >> >the MSN Add-In.
> >> >
> >> >As for known problems, none out of the ordinary set of
> >> Messenger issues.
> >> >____________________________________________
> >> >Jonathan Kay
> >> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> >
> >> >"Sam" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> ...
> >> >> What's the difference between Windows Messenger 4.7
> and
> >> >> 5.0? I am thinking about downloading the latest
> >> version,
> >> >> but would like to know what new features Messenger
> 5.0
> >> >> includes and if anything has been removed that was
> in
> >> >> 4.7.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, has there been any known problems with Windows
> >> >> Messenger 5.0?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Don C]

So, there IS a new version? hmm. I was a bit confused, and was going to ask here
about that.
The front page http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/ shows v.5.0, the
Windows Messenger support center
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?ID=FH;rid;WinMsgr says it's still 4.7.
I'd like to up to v.5 for UPnP file transfers, but don't want to lose MSN
Mobile.
Will upgrading to v.5 kill the Add-in? Will MS release an MSN add-in for v.5?

Thank you for explaining,
Don

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings Sam,
>
> Firstly, Windows Messenger 5 has support for UPnP file transfers, "digital
ink" TabletPC
> support, support for both Exchange IM, SIP and the .NET Messenger network as
well as several
> other tweaks.
>
> What Windows Messenger 5 doesn't have that's in 4.7 is Add-In support, which
means there is
> no Hotmail, MSN Mobile, or other MSN services that now exist in Windows
Messenger 4.7 with
> the MSN Add-In.
>
> As for known problems, none out of the ordinary set of Messenger issues.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Don,

The Support Center is out of date in several ways, Windows Messenger 5 *is* out.

There is no Add-In support for Windows Messenger 5, and as such, you *will* loose your MSN
Mobile features by upgrading (this is by design).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com



"Don C" > wrote in message ...
> So, there IS a new version? hmm. I was a bit confused, and was going to ask here
> about that.
> The front page http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/ shows v.5.0, the
> Windows Messenger support center
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?ID=FH;rid;WinMsgr says it's still 4.7.
> I'd like to up to v.5 for UPnP file transfers, but don't want to lose MSN
> Mobile.
> Will upgrading to v.5 kill the Add-in? Will MS release an MSN add-in for v.5?
>
> Thank you for explaining,
> Don
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings Sam,
> >
> > Firstly, Windows Messenger 5 has support for UPnP file transfers, "digital
> ink" TabletPC
> > support, support for both Exchange IM, SIP and the .NET Messenger network as
> well as several
> > other tweaks.
> >
> > What Windows Messenger 5 doesn't have that's in 4.7 is Add-In support, which
> means there is
> > no Hotmail, MSN Mobile, or other MSN services that now exist in Windows
> Messenger 4.7 with
> > the MSN Add-In.
> >
> > As for known problems, none out of the ordinary set of Messenger issues.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>