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Paul27
January 11th 05, 04:13 PM
Hi,

First a few details of the network setup:
- 16 PCs (Windows XP Pro)
- 1 Server (Windows Server 2003)
- Wireless Network

Other details:
- Printer is NOT connected to the server because it doesn't support my
printer model (HP Laserjet 3380).
- Printer IS connected to a PC running Windows XP. I have it as a shared
printer.
- I'm not using a print server (and I don't intend to, if possible).

Problem:
I can get the printer working on all the PCs, but after a few hours I
sometimes have to re-establish the connection by doing Start > Run... >
\\computer0\hp (ie. printer location).
Once I do this one of two things happen:
(1) The print queue window opens and the PC is once again connected to the
printer.
(2) After 1 or 2 minutes a windows opens looking for my administrator
password. Once I enter that, the print queue window opens and the PC is once
again connected to the printer.

It's really annoying having to do this to each computer every day. I'm
guessing that the network is somehow timing me out??? However, it's only a
guess .

My level of computer expertise isn't too high, so please don't use any
complicated words :-)

Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this kind of problem?

Thanks in advance!

Cari \(MS-MVP\)
January 11th 05, 07:32 PM
XP Pro has a connection limitation of 10 (XP Home is just 5). When the 11th
PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait until one of the
first 10 frees up the connection.
--
Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
www.coribright.com

"Paul27" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> First a few details of the network setup:
> - 16 PCs (Windows XP Pro)
> - 1 Server (Windows Server 2003)
> - Wireless Network
>
> Other details:
> - Printer is NOT connected to the server because it doesn't support my
> printer model (HP Laserjet 3380).
> - Printer IS connected to a PC running Windows XP. I have it as a shared
> printer.
> - I'm not using a print server (and I don't intend to, if possible).
>
> Problem:
> I can get the printer working on all the PCs, but after a few hours I
> sometimes have to re-establish the connection by doing Start > Run... >
> \\computer0\hp (ie. printer location).
> Once I do this one of two things happen:
> (1) The print queue window opens and the PC is once again connected to the
> printer.
> (2) After 1 or 2 minutes a windows opens looking for my administrator
> password. Once I enter that, the print queue window opens and the PC is
> once
> again connected to the printer.
>
> It's really annoying having to do this to each computer every day. I'm
> guessing that the network is somehow timing me out??? However, it's only a
> guess .
>
> My level of computer expertise isn't too high, so please don't use any
> complicated words :-)
>
> Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this kind of problem?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>

Paul27
January 12th 05, 12:55 PM
Thanks for your reply Cari :-)
I didn't know that XP had a connection limit of 10 !

"When the 11th PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait until
one of the
first 10 frees up the connection."
By "frees up the connection" do you mean "completes printing"?
If I tested the network with just 10 PCs working, should that work without
me having to reconnect the PCs to the printer after several hours?

I'm still going to try to find a solution (if possible!). It seems strange
that ALL of the computers can print, but they lose their connection after
several hours. Rebooting or reconnecting to the printer are the 2 best
solutions I have so far.

"Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> XP Pro has a connection limitation of 10 (XP Home is just 5). When the 11th
> PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait until one of the
> first 10 frees up the connection.
> --
> Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
> www.coribright.com
>
> "Paul27" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> >
> > First a few details of the network setup:
> > - 16 PCs (Windows XP Pro)
> > - 1 Server (Windows Server 2003)
> > - Wireless Network
> >
> > Other details:
> > - Printer is NOT connected to the server because it doesn't support my
> > printer model (HP Laserjet 3380).
> > - Printer IS connected to a PC running Windows XP. I have it as a shared
> > printer.
> > - I'm not using a print server (and I don't intend to, if possible).
> >
> > Problem:
> > I can get the printer working on all the PCs, but after a few hours I
> > sometimes have to re-establish the connection by doing Start > Run... >
> > \\computer0\hp (ie. printer location).
> > Once I do this one of two things happen:
> > (1) The print queue window opens and the PC is once again connected to the
> > printer.
> > (2) After 1 or 2 minutes a windows opens looking for my administrator
> > password. Once I enter that, the print queue window opens and the PC is
> > once
> > again connected to the printer.
> >
> > It's really annoying having to do this to each computer every day. I'm
> > guessing that the network is somehow timing me out??? However, it's only a
> > guess .
> >
> > My level of computer expertise isn't too high, so please don't use any
> > complicated words :-)
> >
> > Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this kind of problem?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Cari \(MS-MVP\)
January 14th 05, 07:49 PM
What exactly happens if you try to connect the HP 3380 to the Server 2003
PC?
--
Cari (MS-MVP) Windows Client - Printing/Imaging and Hardware
www.coribright.com

"Paul27" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for your reply Cari :-)
> I didn't know that XP had a connection limit of 10 !
>
> "When the 11th PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait
> until
> one of the
> first 10 frees up the connection."
> By "frees up the connection" do you mean "completes printing"?
> If I tested the network with just 10 PCs working, should that work without
> me having to reconnect the PCs to the printer after several hours?
>
> I'm still going to try to find a solution (if possible!). It seems strange
> that ALL of the computers can print, but they lose their connection after
> several hours. Rebooting or reconnecting to the printer are the 2 best
> solutions I have so far.
>
> "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> XP Pro has a connection limitation of 10 (XP Home is just 5). When the
>> 11th
>> PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait until one of the
>> first 10 frees up the connection.
>> --
>> Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
>> www.coribright.com
>>
>> "Paul27" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > First a few details of the network setup:
>> > - 16 PCs (Windows XP Pro)
>> > - 1 Server (Windows Server 2003)
>> > - Wireless Network
>> >
>> > Other details:
>> > - Printer is NOT connected to the server because it doesn't support my
>> > printer model (HP Laserjet 3380).
>> > - Printer IS connected to a PC running Windows XP. I have it as a
>> > shared
>> > printer.
>> > - I'm not using a print server (and I don't intend to, if possible).
>> >
>> > Problem:
>> > I can get the printer working on all the PCs, but after a few hours I
>> > sometimes have to re-establish the connection by doing Start > Run... >
>> > \\computer0\hp (ie. printer location).
>> > Once I do this one of two things happen:
>> > (1) The print queue window opens and the PC is once again connected to
>> > the
>> > printer.
>> > (2) After 1 or 2 minutes a windows opens looking for my administrator
>> > password. Once I enter that, the print queue window opens and the PC is
>> > once
>> > again connected to the printer.
>> >
>> > It's really annoying having to do this to each computer every day. I'm
>> > guessing that the network is somehow timing me out??? However, it's
>> > only a
>> > guess .
>> >
>> > My level of computer expertise isn't too high, so please don't use any
>> > complicated words :-)
>> >
>> > Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this kind of problem?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Bruce Sanderson
January 17th 05, 01:29 AM
Although there is no "Windows 2003" driver on the HP web site, I suspect you
could install the XP driver on Windows 2003 successfully.

The Windows 2000 driver may work also, but you then may have to add the
Windows XP driver as an "Additional Driver".

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Paul27" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for your reply Cari :-)
> I didn't know that XP had a connection limit of 10 !
>
> "When the 11th PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait
> until
> one of the
> first 10 frees up the connection."
> By "frees up the connection" do you mean "completes printing"?
> If I tested the network with just 10 PCs working, should that work without
> me having to reconnect the PCs to the printer after several hours?
>
> I'm still going to try to find a solution (if possible!). It seems strange
> that ALL of the computers can print, but they lose their connection after
> several hours. Rebooting or reconnecting to the printer are the 2 best
> solutions I have so far.
>
> "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> XP Pro has a connection limitation of 10 (XP Home is just 5). When the
>> 11th
>> PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait until one of the
>> first 10 frees up the connection.
>> --
>> Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
>> www.coribright.com
>>
>> "Paul27" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > First a few details of the network setup:
>> > - 16 PCs (Windows XP Pro)
>> > - 1 Server (Windows Server 2003)
>> > - Wireless Network
>> >
>> > Other details:
>> > - Printer is NOT connected to the server because it doesn't support my
>> > printer model (HP Laserjet 3380).
>> > - Printer IS connected to a PC running Windows XP. I have it as a
>> > shared
>> > printer.
>> > - I'm not using a print server (and I don't intend to, if possible).
>> >
>> > Problem:
>> > I can get the printer working on all the PCs, but after a few hours I
>> > sometimes have to re-establish the connection by doing Start > Run... >
>> > \\computer0\hp (ie. printer location).
>> > Once I do this one of two things happen:
>> > (1) The print queue window opens and the PC is once again connected to
>> > the
>> > printer.
>> > (2) After 1 or 2 minutes a windows opens looking for my administrator
>> > password. Once I enter that, the print queue window opens and the PC is
>> > once
>> > again connected to the printer.
>> >
>> > It's really annoying having to do this to each computer every day. I'm
>> > guessing that the network is somehow timing me out??? However, it's
>> > only a
>> > guess .
>> >
>> > My level of computer expertise isn't too high, so please don't use any
>> > complicated words :-)
>> >
>> > Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this kind of problem?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>

Paul27
January 19th 05, 11:21 AM
Cari,
I haven't tried to connect the printer to the server because there are no
Windows Server 2003 drivers available. I might try the idea in the post by
"Bruce Sanderson", just to see if it works.

Paul27
January 19th 05, 11:33 AM
Thanks for your reply Bruce,
I'll try your idea as soon as I can. There might be a delay because I'm
running an internet cafe which is open 10 hours every day. This leaves me
with little time to test.

Here's an idea I think I might try in the meantime:
I might create a batch file that connects each PC to the printer and put it
in the Start Up folder. I could also assign it to a keyboard button.
Net use \\computer0\hp /USER:Administrator? password /Persistant:Yes
.....and save it as a ".BAT" file.

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

> Although there is no "Windows 2003" driver on the HP web site, I suspect you
> could install the XP driver on Windows 2003 successfully.
>
> The Windows 2000 driver may work also, but you then may have to add the
> Windows XP driver as an "Additional Driver".
>
> --
> Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
>
> It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>
>
>
> "Paul27" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks for your reply Cari :-)
> > I didn't know that XP had a connection limit of 10 !
> >
> > "When the 11th PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait
> > until
> > one of the
> > first 10 frees up the connection."
> > By "frees up the connection" do you mean "completes printing"?
> > If I tested the network with just 10 PCs working, should that work without
> > me having to reconnect the PCs to the printer after several hours?
> >
> > I'm still going to try to find a solution (if possible!). It seems strange
> > that ALL of the computers can print, but they lose their connection after
> > several hours. Rebooting or reconnecting to the printer are the 2 best
> > solutions I have so far.
> >
> > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> XP Pro has a connection limitation of 10 (XP Home is just 5). When the
> >> 11th
> >> PC tries to connect to the printer it will have to wait until one of the
> >> first 10 frees up the connection.
> >> --
> >> Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
> >> www.coribright.com
> >>
> >> "Paul27" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > First a few details of the network setup:
> >> > - 16 PCs (Windows XP Pro)
> >> > - 1 Server (Windows Server 2003)
> >> > - Wireless Network
> >> >
> >> > Other details:
> >> > - Printer is NOT connected to the server because it doesn't support my
> >> > printer model (HP Laserjet 3380).
> >> > - Printer IS connected to a PC running Windows XP. I have it as a
> >> > shared
> >> > printer.
> >> > - I'm not using a print server (and I don't intend to, if possible).
> >> >
> >> > Problem:
> >> > I can get the printer working on all the PCs, but after a few hours I
> >> > sometimes have to re-establish the connection by doing Start > Run... >
> >> > \\computer0\hp (ie. printer location).
> >> > Once I do this one of two things happen:
> >> > (1) The print queue window opens and the PC is once again connected to
> >> > the
> >> > printer.
> >> > (2) After 1 or 2 minutes a windows opens looking for my administrator
> >> > password. Once I enter that, the print queue window opens and the PC is
> >> > once
> >> > again connected to the printer.
> >> >
> >> > It's really annoying having to do this to each computer every day. I'm
> >> > guessing that the network is somehow timing me out??? However, it's
> >> > only a
> >> > guess .
> >> >
> >> > My level of computer expertise isn't too high, so please don't use any
> >> > complicated words :-)
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this kind of problem?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

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