Bogus MS help on how to exit Messenger

[Reynold]

I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this program
when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
that's not there....

This is a copy of the help message:

To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
box.
To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
Preferences tab.

Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check box.
You can always start Messenger manually from the Windows
Start menu.

[D M]

In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows messenger" checked?

Reynold wrote:
> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this program
> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
> that's not there....
>
> This is a copy of the help message:
>
> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
> box.
> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> Preferences tab.
>
> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check box.
> You can always start Messenger manually from the Windows
> Start menu.

[Reynold]

I went through all tabs and buttons in OE Tools/Options,
this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice and
saw no such or similar option. Thanks.

>-----Original Message-----
>In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows
messenger" checked?
>
>Reynold wrote:
>> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
>> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
program
>> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
>> that's not there....
>>
>> This is a copy of the help message:
>>
>> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
>> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
>> box.
>> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
>> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>> Preferences tab.
>>
>> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
box.
>> You can always start Messenger manually from the
Windows
>> Start menu.
>
>
>.
>

[Joel Estes]

Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it is on the General Tab
of Windows Messenger.

Joel



"Reynold" > wrote in message
...
> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE Tools/Options,
> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice and
> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows
> messenger" checked?
> >
> >Reynold wrote:
> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
> program
> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
> >> that's not there....
> >>
> >> This is a copy of the help message:
> >>
> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
> >> box.
> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> >> Preferences tab.
> >>
> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
> box.
> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
> Windows
> >> Start menu.
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
Spelling, Security, Other.
Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this program
to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
computer, it was back (even though the option is still
unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.

Reynold

>-----Original Message-----
>Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
>Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it is
on the General Tab
>of Windows Messenger.
>
>Joel
>
>
>
>"Reynold" > wrote in
message
...
>> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE
Tools/Options,
>> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
>> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice
and
>> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows
>> messenger" checked?
>> >
>> >Reynold wrote:
>> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
>> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
>> program
>> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck
something
>> >> that's not there....
>> >>
>> >> This is a copy of the help message:
>> >>
>> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting
automatically
>> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the
Options
>> >> box.
>> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click
the
>> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>> >> Preferences tab.
>> >>
>> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
>> box.
>> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
>> Windows
>> >> Start menu.
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Thought maybe I could solve the problem with Outlook
Express. I installed it, went to Tools/Options/General,
unchecked the WinMes option, no deal, it's still there!

Reynold

>-----Original Message-----
>Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
>full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
>Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
>tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
>Spelling, Security, Other.
>Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
>Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
>Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
>the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this
program
>to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
>this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
>computer, it was back (even though the option is still
>unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.
>
>Reynold
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
>>Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it
is
>on the General Tab
>>of Windows Messenger.
>>
>>Joel
>>
>>
>>
>>"Reynold" > wrote
in
>message
...
>>> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE
>Tools/Options,
>>> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
>>> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice
>and
>>> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to
windows
>>> messenger" checked?
>>> >
>>> >Reynold wrote:
>>> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I
click
>>> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>>> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
>>> program
>>> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck
>something
>>> >> that's not there....
>>> >>
>>> >> This is a copy of the help message:
>>> >>
>>> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting
>automatically
>>> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the
>Options
>>> >> box.
>>> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click
>the
>>> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>>> >> Preferences tab.
>>> >>
>>> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts
check
>>> box.
>>> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
>>> Windows
>>> >> Start menu.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >.
>>> >
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Joel Estes]

I use MSN Messenger, but still have Windows Messenger on my computer, just
went and exited MSN Messenger and brought up Windows Messenger and on the
PREFERENCES Tab there is a place to check for it to run when Windows starts,
just uncheck that. If you do not have such
then there is some real question as to what you are running.

Joel

> wrote in message
...
> Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
> full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
> Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
> tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
> Spelling, Security, Other.
> Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
> Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
> Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
> the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this program
> to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
> this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
> computer, it was back (even though the option is still
> unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.
>
> Reynold
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
> >Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it is
> on the General Tab
> >of Windows Messenger.
> >
> >Joel
> >
> >
> >
> >"Reynold" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE
> Tools/Options,
> >> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
> >> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice
> and
> >> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows
> >> messenger" checked?
> >> >
> >> >Reynold wrote:
> >> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> >> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> >> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
> >> program
> >> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck
> something
> >> >> that's not there....
> >> >>
> >> >> This is a copy of the help message:
> >> >>
> >> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting
> automatically
> >> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the
> Options
> >> >> box.
> >> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click
> the
> >> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> >> >> Preferences tab.
> >> >>
> >> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
> >> box.
> >> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
> >> Windows
> >> >> Start menu.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

I am running Office Standard 2003 on Windows XP
Professional version 5.1 (service pack 1). I go to Add &
Remove Programs / Set Program Access & Defaults / Choose
Custom. Among various choices is Choose a default instant
messaging program. Choice 1 is Use my current i.m.p.
Choice 2 is Windows Messenger and next to that is another
box, Enable Access. So I have checked Choice 1, unchecked
choice 2, and unchecked the Enable Access box. With all
this Windows still forces the Win Mes icon to show up in
the icon tray! Very Kafkaesque.

Next problem, when I right-click on the Win Mes icon,
there is an Exit command. When I click on this, I get the
message "There are other applications currently using
features provided by Win Mes. You must close these other
apps before you can exit Win Mes. These apps may include
Outlook, Outlook Express, MSN Explorer, and Internet
Explorer". This is beyond frustrating, that the option to
exit exists in a menu command, but in practice has been
disabled. Only when I quit Outlook does the Win Mes icon
disappear. Also very Kafkaesque.

Third problem, when I open Win Mes
Tools/Options/Preferences, there are only two choices.
Choice 1 is Allow this program to run in the background.
Choice 2 is Show me as "away" when I'm inactive for 120
min. There is no choice given about not starting WinMes
when Windows is launched. Maybe Choice 1 is supposed to
provide that feature, but no matter whether I check it or
not, WinMes runs. Even more Kafkaesque.

Pardon this short rant, but I feel as if I have no
control over my computer, and Microsoft owns it, not
me.... :)

Thanks,
Reynold



>-----Original Message-----
>I use MSN Messenger, but still have Windows Messenger on
my computer, just
>went and exited MSN Messenger and brought up Windows
Messenger and on the
>PREFERENCES Tab there is a place to check for it to run
when Windows starts,
>just uncheck that. If you do not have such
>then there is some real question as to what you are
running.
>
>Joel
>
> wrote in message
...
>> Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
>> full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
>> Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
>> tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
>> Spelling, Security, Other.
>> Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
>> Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
>> Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
>> the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this
program
>> to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
>> this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
>> computer, it was back (even though the option is still
>> unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Reynold
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on
the
>> >Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it
is
>> on the General Tab
>> >of Windows Messenger.
>> >
>> >Joel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Reynold" > wrote
in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE
>> Tools/Options,
>> >> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
>> >> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it
twice
>> and
>> >> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to
windows
>> >> messenger" checked?
>> >> >
>> >> >Reynold wrote:
>> >> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I
click
>> >> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>> >> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
>> >> program
>> >> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck
>> something
>> >> >> that's not there....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is a copy of the help message:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting
>> automatically
>> >> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the
>> Options
>> >> >> box.
>> >> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window,
click
>> the
>> >> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>> >> >> Preferences tab.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts
check
>> >> box.
>> >> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
>> >> Windows
>> >> >> Start menu.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Joel,

Actually there are some situations where this option is not shown, in both Outlook Express
and Messenger.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Joel Estes" > wrote in message
...
> I use MSN Messenger, but still have Windows Messenger on my computer, just
> went and exited MSN Messenger and brought up Windows Messenger and on the
> PREFERENCES Tab there is a place to check for it to run when Windows starts,
> just uncheck that. If you do not have such
> then there is some real question as to what you are running.
>
> Joel
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
> > full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
> > Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
> > tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
> > Spelling, Security, Other.
> > Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
> > Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
> > Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
> > the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this program
> > to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
> > this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
> > computer, it was back (even though the option is still
> > unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Reynold
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
> > >Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it is
> > on the General Tab
> > >of Windows Messenger.
> > >
> > >Joel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Reynold" > wrote in
> > message
> > ...
> > >> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE
> > Tools/Options,
> > >> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
> > >> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice
> > and
> > >> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows
> > >> messenger" checked?
> > >> >
> > >> >Reynold wrote:
> > >> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> > >> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> > >> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
> > >> program
> > >> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck
> > something
> > >> >> that's not there....
> > >> >>
> > >> >> This is a copy of the help message:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting
> > automatically
> > >> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the
> > Options
> > >> >> box.
> > >> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click
> > the
> > >> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> > >> >> Preferences tab.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
> > >> box.
> > >> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
> > >> Windows
> > >> >> Start menu.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >.
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Reynold,

To get this option to appear, simply reinstall Windows Messenger from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Reynold" > wrote in message
...
> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this program
> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
> that's not there....
>
> This is a copy of the help message:
>
> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
> box.
> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> Preferences tab.
>
> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check box.
> You can always start Messenger manually from the Windows
> Start menu.
>
>

Hi Jonathan,

I'm glad I pursued this, and I'm _really_ glad you were
there to help! Worked like a charm, added a third option
to the Options/Tools/Prefs tab, got what I needed, thanks
so much.

Reynold

>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Reynold,
>
>To get this option to appear, simply reinstall Windows
Messenger from here:
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Reynold" > wrote in message
...
>> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
>> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
program
>> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
>> that's not there....
>>
>> This is a copy of the help message:
>>
>> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
>> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
>> box.
>> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
>> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>> Preferences tab.
>>
>> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
box.
>> You can always start Messenger manually from the
Windows
>> Start menu.
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Reynold,

You're very welcome =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

> wrote in message
...
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I'm glad I pursued this, and I'm _really_ glad you were
> there to help! Worked like a charm, added a third option
> to the Options/Tools/Prefs tab, got what I needed, thanks
> so much.
>
> Reynold
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings Reynold,
> >
> >To get this option to appear, simply reinstall Windows
> Messenger from here:
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >"Reynold" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
> program
> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
> >> that's not there....
> >>
> >> This is a copy of the help message:
> >>
> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
> >> box.
> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> >> Preferences tab.
> >>
> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
> box.
> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
> Windows
> >> Start menu.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >