Windows Messenger versus MSN Messenger

[Shirley Azvedo]

Are these two the same? If not, what is the difference? I know how to get
MSN Messenger but if they are different programs, how do you get Windows
Messenger?

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Shirley,

There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for
display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger
supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which one you use is up
to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and likes), however one
thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for
MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application
Sharing, etc.).

MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN Mobile,
etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies (Exchange Server,
Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).

Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET Messenger service,
..NET Passport and .NET Alerts.

Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP, but you can also install it from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Shirley Azvedo" > wrote in message
...
> Are these two the same? If not, what is the difference? I know how to get
> MSN Messenger but if they are different programs, how do you get Windows
> Messenger?
>
>

[Shirley Azvedo]

Thanks for the info, Jonathan, but I think I will keep MSN Messenger.

Shirley

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings Shirley,
>
> There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger
6 has support for
> display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
whereas Windows Messenger
> supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
Which one you use is up
> to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
likes), however one
> thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
Windows XP in order for
> MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard,
Application
> Sharing, etc.).
>
> MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
Profiles, MSN Mobile,
> etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies
(Exchange Server,
> Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
>
> Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET
Messenger service,
> .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
>
> Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP, but you can also install it from
here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "Shirley Azvedo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Are these two the same? If not, what is the difference? I know how to
get
> > MSN Messenger but if they are different programs, how do you get Windows
> > Messenger?
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Shirley,

It's a personal choice, and as such, it's yours to make =).

Have a good weekend.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Shirley Azvedo" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the info, Jonathan, but I think I will keep MSN Messenger.
>
> Shirley
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings Shirley,
> >
> > There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger
> 6 has support for
> > display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
> whereas Windows Messenger
> > supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
> Which one you use is up
> > to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
> likes), however one
> > thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
> Windows XP in order for
> > MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard,
> Application
> > Sharing, etc.).
> >
> > MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
> Profiles, MSN Mobile,
> > etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies
> (Exchange Server,
> > Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
> >
> > Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET
> Messenger service,
> > .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
> >
> > Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP, but you can also install it from
> here:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "Shirley Azvedo" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Are these two the same? If not, what is the difference? I know how to
> get
> > > MSN Messenger but if they are different programs, how do you get Windows
> > > Messenger?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Inga]

If you have to keep Windows XP Messenger for MSN Messenger 6/6.1 to work for
video chats etc, how do you stop version 4.7 from loading. I have 4.7 and
6.1 installed but they both try to load when I start XP. I've tried
disabling Windows messenger from loading in OE, but it's still happening.

I've also tried removing XP Messenger through a registry edit, but could
never use remote help or video after that. I assume taking it off was the
reason for this?

Inga


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings Shirley,
>
> There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger
6 has support for
> display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
whereas Windows Messenger
> supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
Which one you use is up
> to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
likes), however one
> thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
Windows XP in order for
> MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard,
Application
> Sharing, etc.).
>
> MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
Profiles, MSN Mobile,
> etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies
(Exchange Server,
> Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
>
> Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET
Messenger service,
> .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
>
> Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP, but you can also install it from
here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "Shirley Azvedo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Are these two the same? If not, what is the difference? I know how to
get
> > MSN Messenger but if they are different programs, how do you get Windows
> > Messenger?
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Inga,

You can remove Windows Messenger or disable via the registry, but if you do, you will be
preventing Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing and any other applications that
utilize Messenger from working (or loading without problems). You can just disable Windows
Messenger by opening it up, click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and unchecking 'Run this
Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows starts' (depending on
version). As well, you can disable it further by going to Start, Control Panel, Add or
Remove Programs, Add/Remove Windows Components on the left, uncheck Windows Messenger in the
components list and click Next >. Note: this is only available if you've installed Windows
XP Service Pack 1 -- if you haven't, visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com. This won't
remove Windows Messenger, but it will let it stay out of your way.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Inga" > wrote in message
...
> If you have to keep Windows XP Messenger for MSN Messenger 6/6.1 to work for
> video chats etc, how do you stop version 4.7 from loading. I have 4.7 and
> 6.1 installed but they both try to load when I start XP. I've tried
> disabling Windows messenger from loading in OE, but it's still happening.
>
> I've also tried removing XP Messenger through a registry edit, but could
> never use remote help or video after that. I assume taking it off was the
> reason for this?
>
> Inga
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings Shirley,
> >
> > There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN Messenger
> 6 has support for
> > display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
> whereas Windows Messenger
> > supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
> Which one you use is up
> > to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
> likes), however one
> > thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
> Windows XP in order for
> > MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard,
> Application
> > Sharing, etc.).
> >
> > MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
> Profiles, MSN Mobile,
> > etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies
> (Exchange Server,
> > Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
> >
> > Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET
> Messenger service,
> > .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
> >
> > Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP, but you can also install it from
> here:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "Shirley Azvedo" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Are these two the same? If not, what is the difference? I know how to
> get
> > > MSN Messenger but if they are different programs, how do you get Windows
> > > Messenger?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Inga]

Hi

Many thanks.

Inga

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings Inga,
>
> You can remove Windows Messenger or disable via the registry, but if you
do, you will be
> preventing Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing and any
other applications that
> utilize Messenger from working (or loading without problems). You can
just disable Windows
> Messenger by opening it up, click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and
unchecking 'Run this
> Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows
starts' (depending on
> version). As well, you can disable it further by going to Start, Control
Panel, Add or
> Remove Programs, Add/Remove Windows Components on the left, uncheck
Windows Messenger in the
> components list and click Next >. Note: this is only available if you've
installed Windows
> XP Service Pack 1 -- if you haven't, visit
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com. This won't
> remove Windows Messenger, but it will let it stay out of your way.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "Inga" > wrote in message
> ...
> > If you have to keep Windows XP Messenger for MSN Messenger 6/6.1 to work
for
> > video chats etc, how do you stop version 4.7 from loading. I have 4.7
and
> > 6.1 installed but they both try to load when I start XP. I've tried
> > disabling Windows messenger from loading in OE, but it's still
happening.
> >
> > I've also tried removing XP Messenger through a registry edit, but could
> > never use remote help or video after that. I assume taking it off was
the
> > reason for this?
> >
> > Inga
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings Shirley,
> > >
> > > There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN
Messenger
> > 6 has support for
> > > display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
> > whereas Windows Messenger
> > > supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
> > Which one you use is up
> > > to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
> > likes), however one
> > > thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
> > Windows XP in order for
> > > MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance,
Whiteboard,
> > Application
> > > Sharing, etc.).
> > >
> > > MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
> > Profiles, MSN Mobile,
> > > etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows
technologies
> > (Exchange Server,
> > > Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
> > >
> > > Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the
..NET
> > Messenger service,
> > > .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
> > >
> > > Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP, but you can also install it
from
> > here:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "Shirley Azvedo" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Are these two the same? If not, what is the difference? I know how
to
> > get
> > > > MSN Messenger but if they are different programs, how do you get
Windows
> > > > Messenger?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Inga,

You're welcome =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Inga" > wrote in message
...
> Hi
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Inga
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings Inga,
> >
> > You can remove Windows Messenger or disable via the registry, but if you
> do, you will be
> > preventing Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing and any
> other applications that
> > utilize Messenger from working (or loading without problems). You can
> just disable Windows
> > Messenger by opening it up, click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and
> unchecking 'Run this
> > Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows
> starts' (depending on
> > version). As well, you can disable it further by going to Start, Control
> Panel, Add or
> > Remove Programs, Add/Remove Windows Components on the left, uncheck
> Windows Messenger in the
> > components list and click Next >. Note: this is only available if you've
> installed Windows
> > XP Service Pack 1 -- if you haven't, visit
> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com. This won't
> > remove Windows Messenger, but it will let it stay out of your way.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "Inga" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > If you have to keep Windows XP Messenger for MSN Messenger 6/6.1 to work
> for
> > > video chats etc, how do you stop version 4.7 from loading. I have 4.7
> and
> > > 6.1 installed but they both try to load when I start XP. I've tried
> > > disabling Windows messenger from loading in OE, but it's still
> happening.
> > >
> > > I've also tried removing XP Messenger through a registry edit, but could
> > > never use remote help or video after that. I assume taking it off was
> the
> > > reason for this?
> > >
> > > Inga
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Greetings Shirley,
> > > >
> > > > There are several differences between the two. Most notably, MSN
> Messenger
> > > 6 has support for
> > > > display pictures, custom emoticons, has a different interface, etc.
> > > whereas Windows Messenger
> > > > supports SIP-based communications services, Exchange IM Server, etc.
> > > Which one you use is up
> > > > to you, and a matter of personal choice (and based upon your needs and
> > > likes), however one
> > > > thing to keep in mind, Windows Messenger must still be installed on
> > > Windows XP in order for
> > > > MSN Messenger to retain full functionality (Remote Assistance,
> Whiteboard,
> > > Application
> > > > Sharing, etc.).
> > > >
> > > > MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
> > > Profiles, MSN Mobile,
> > > > etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows
> technologies
> > > (Exchange Server,
> > > > Office Live Communications Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
> > > >
> > > > Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the
> .NET
> > > Messenger service,
> > > > .NET Passport and .NET Alerts.
> > > >
> > > > Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP, but you can also install it
> from
> > > here:
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Shirley Azvedo" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Are these two the same? If not, what is the difference? I know how
> to
> > > get
> > > > > MSN Messenger but if they are different programs, how do you get
> Windows
> > > > > Messenger?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>