On line upgrade from XP Home to XP Pro ...

[Bill]

It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download of
an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It
should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have more
than half of the program facilities already with XP
Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they
plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores.
I see that product costing about $100. I am particularly
interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK

[Nicholas]

Microsoft Product Feedback
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp?from=3Dcu&fu=3D%2Fisa=
pi%2Fgomscom%2Easp%3Ftarget%3D%2Fmswish%2Fthanks%2 Ehtm

--=20
Nicholas

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"Bill" > wrote in message: =20
...

| It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download of=20
| an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It=20
| should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have more=20
| than half of the program facilities already with XP=20
| Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they=20
| plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores. =20
| I see that product costing about $100. I am particularly=20
| interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only=20
| available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to=20
| Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK

[Jupiter Jones]

Bill;
Interesting ideas.
However Microsoft has not done that in the past and is not likely to
do it now.
If you have specific needs, it is up to you to ensure you purchase the
OS that meets those needs.
If you fail to properly research before you make an investment, you
may end up paying more than would have been originally necessary if
proper research had been done to begin with.

See these links for forwarding your wishes to Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;114491
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp?from=cu&fu=%2Fisapi%2Fgomscom%2Easp%3Ftarget%3D%2Fmswish%2 Fthanks%2Ehtm

--
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An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.


"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download of
> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It
> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have more
> than half of the program facilities already with XP
> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they
> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores.
> I see that product costing about $100. I am particularly
> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK

[A Fraley]

Glad you got that off your chest, Bill..............


"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download of
> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It
> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have more
> than half of the program facilities already with XP
> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they
> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores.
> I see that product costing about $100. I am particularly
> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK

[Star Fleet Admiral Q]

So it is <put your car manufacturer here> fault because you bought a
shiney new car, but you really needed a truck to haul stuff around?
I'm sure you do the research before buying a new auto to make sure it
has the options and capabilities you need - the same is required for
computers, operating systems, applications or anything you spend your hard
earned money on.

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download of
> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It
> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have more
> than half of the program facilities already with XP
> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they
> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores.
> I see that product costing about $100. I am particularly
> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK

[F. David]

I agree with you Bill. We're not talking about steel and
rubber we're talking about 1's and 0's. You test drive a
car, don't you? Why not be able to test drive and OS-
especially if there are different versions: ie: xp home
and xp pro. Does the research one does really involve
looking into all aspects of an app? As in Backup? It's
listed as Backup? Does it say on the box that it doesn't
write directly to CDRW? No. You only find that out when
you want it to do it. And then the error message
say's "invalid file path" and something to do with the
name of the .bkf file: they could easily say "XP doesn't
write to CDRW because we thought it might make us laugh"
or something to that extent. So Bill, right on. And a
message to others out there who might want to punish us
for speaking our minds. This is America and war or no
war, the pendulum will swing the other way.
>-----Original Message-----
>Glad you got that off your chest, Bill..............
>
>
>"Bill" > wrote in message
...
>> It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download
of
>> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It
>> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have
more
>> than half of the program facilities already with XP
>> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they
>> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores.
>> I see that product costing about $100. I am
particularly
>> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
>> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
>> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK
>
>
>.
>

[David Candy]

Home can do scheduled backups. You just have to install backup from the =
CD seperately with Home. Browse the addon folder on the CD.

--=20
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Bill" > wrote in message =
...
> It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download of=20
> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It=20
> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have more=20
> than half of the program facilities already with XP=20
> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they=20
> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores. =20
> I see that product costing about $100. I am particularly=20
> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only=20
> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to=20
> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK

[Jupiter Jones]

"Does the research one does really involve looking into all aspects of
an app?"
It should at least to the point of features you feel necessary.
The source of available research is almost limitless.
Hands on with a computer:
Work, library, friend relative etc.
Technical reassert:
All the above + internet, newsgroups and many more to numerous to
mention.
The best is ask people you know what they like and dislike.

Everything you mentioned is well known and can be easily discovered
with a bit of research.
You test drive an automobile before purchase, the same can be done
with Windows XP through the various methods already mentioned.

Microsoft can not possibly put everything on the box as you suggest.
Back-up to CDRW is just one of a million things that should be on the
box in that case.

It amazes me sometimes that people have no idea how to research or
search out a solution, however they quickly find this forum or similar
to voice the complaint when this forum is a great research tool to
begin with.
Instead of starting here with a complain that may be rooted in bad
research, start here to research before purchase..

--
Jupiter Jones
Check the following link for some great problem solving newsgroups.
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
Please respond to newsgroup only. Everyone can benefit from the
message.


"F. David" > wrote in message
...
> I agree with you Bill. We're not talking about steel and
> rubber we're talking about 1's and 0's. You test drive a
> car, don't you? Why not be able to test drive and OS-
> especially if there are different versions: ie: xp home
> and xp pro. Does the research one does really involve
> looking into all aspects of an app? As in Backup? It's
> listed as Backup? Does it say on the box that it doesn't
> write directly to CDRW? No. You only find that out when
> you want it to do it. And then the error message
> say's "invalid file path" and something to do with the
> name of the .bkf file: they could easily say "XP doesn't
> write to CDRW because we thought it might make us laugh"
> or something to that extent. So Bill, right on. And a
> message to others out there who might want to punish us
> for speaking our minds. This is America and war or no
> war, the pendulum will swing the other way.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Glad you got that off your chest, Bill..............
> >
> >
> >"Bill" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download
> of
> >> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It
> >> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have
> more
> >> than half of the program facilities already with XP
> >> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they
> >> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores.
> >> I see that product costing about $100. I am
> particularly
> >> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
> >> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
> >> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[F. David]

J.J. wrote: >Microsoft can not possibly put everything on
the box as you suggest.>Back-up to CDRW is just one of a
million things that should be on the box in that case.

Exactly, JJ, you're making my point. One shouldn't have
to spend hours and hours, asking questions -researching
the minutia. ie: The floppy is going the way of Beta
tape. Backup allows you to backup to floppy. Floppies
don't come on all machines. CDRW is now the standard.
3rd party apps write backups to D:, MS's own OS doesn't.
No person, under REASONABLE circumstances, would expect
XP NOT to write to CDRW. This is just one blatant
example.
$100.00 to upgrade to XP PRO from XP HOME, as the
original poster suggested, (as long as that price is =or>
what MS would've made for XP Pro in the first place)
would be good customer relations and be seen as fair.
You talk about research as "hands on". Again, exactly.
Hands on with a computer OS is not a "test drive", it's
days or weeks.


>-----Original Message-----
>"Does the research one does really involve looking into
all aspects of
>an app?"
>It should at least to the point of features you feel
necessary.
>The source of available research is almost limitless.
>Hands on with a computer:
>Work, library, friend relative etc.
>Technical reassert:
>All the above + internet, newsgroups and many more to
numerous to
>mention.
>The best is ask people you know what they like and
dislike.
>
>Everything you mentioned is well known and can be easily
discovered
>with a bit of research.
>You test drive an automobile before purchase, the same
can be done
>with Windows XP through the various methods already
mentioned.
>
>Microsoft can not possibly put everything on the box as
you suggest.
>Back-up to CDRW is just one of a million things that
should be on the
>box in that case.
>
>It amazes me sometimes that people have no idea how to
research or
>search out a solution, however they quickly find this
forum or similar
>to voice the complaint when this forum is a great
research tool to
>begin with.
>Instead of starting here with a complain that may be
rooted in bad
>research, start here to research before purchase..
>
>--
>Jupiter Jones
>Check the following link for some great problem solving
newsgroups.
>http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
>Please respond to newsgroup only. Everyone can benefit
from the
>message.
>
>
>"F. David" > wrote in message
...
>> I agree with you Bill. We're not talking about steel
and
>> rubber we're talking about 1's and 0's. You test
drive a
>> car, don't you? Why not be able to test drive and OS-
>> especially if there are different versions: ie: xp home
>> and xp pro. Does the research one does really involve
>> looking into all aspects of an app? As in Backup?
It's
>> listed as Backup? Does it say on the box that it
doesn't
>> write directly to CDRW? No. You only find that out
when
>> you want it to do it. And then the error message
>> say's "invalid file path" and something to do with the
>> name of the .bkf file: they could easily say "XP
doesn't
>> write to CDRW because we thought it might make us
laugh"
>> or something to that extent. So Bill, right on. And a
>> message to others out there who might want to punish us
>> for speaking our minds. This is America and war or no
>> war, the pendulum will swing the other way.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Glad you got that off your chest, Bill..............
>> >
>> >
>> >"Bill" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> It should be possible to obtain an "on line"
download
>> of
>> >> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP
Professional. It
>> >> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have
>> more
>> >> than half of the program facilities already with XP
>> >> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless
they
>> >> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to
stores.
>> >> I see that product costing about $100. I am
>> particularly
>> >> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
>> >> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
>> >> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Jupiter Jones]

The technology available in a modern Home computer is enormous.
It could take a long time to research it thoroughly.
However it would still be prudent to research the capabilities you
need.
If your needs are many and detailed, it is a good idea "to spend hours
and hours, asking questions -researching the minutia" to ensure your $
are spent wisely.
There are many people who do just that before buying their computer or
software.
You apparently don't think research is important which may be why you
get so disappointed.
It is your $ until you use it.
If you do not adequately prepare, it is your fault and your $ spent,
not mine.

You must do research on any product.
If you fail to adequately research, the cost and responsibility is
yours and not the product producer.
Especially in the cases mentioned where it is well documented.

This is no different with any product, computer related or not.

We consumers make demands of what we want, it is about time we also
take responsibility for our lack of proper research instead of the all
to common idea of shuffling our negligence onto some others..

--
Jupiter Jones
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.


"F. David" > wrote in message
...
> J.J. wrote: >Microsoft can not possibly put everything on
> the box as you suggest.>Back-up to CDRW is just one of a
> million things that should be on the box in that case.
>
> Exactly, JJ, you're making my point. One shouldn't have
> to spend hours and hours, asking questions -researching
> the minutia. ie: The floppy is going the way of Beta
> tape. Backup allows you to backup to floppy. Floppies
> don't come on all machines. CDRW is now the standard.
> 3rd party apps write backups to D:, MS's own OS doesn't.
> No person, under REASONABLE circumstances, would expect
> XP NOT to write to CDRW. This is just one blatant
> example.
> $100.00 to upgrade to XP PRO from XP HOME, as the
> original poster suggested, (as long as that price is =or>
> what MS would've made for XP Pro in the first place)
> would be good customer relations and be seen as fair.
> You talk about research as "hands on". Again, exactly.
> Hands on with a computer OS is not a "test drive", it's
> days or weeks.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >"Does the research one does really involve looking into
> all aspects of
> >an app?"
> >It should at least to the point of features you feel
> necessary.
> >The source of available research is almost limitless.
> >Hands on with a computer:
> >Work, library, friend relative etc.
> >Technical reassert:
> >All the above + internet, newsgroups and many more to
> numerous to
> >mention.
> >The best is ask people you know what they like and
> dislike.
> >
> >Everything you mentioned is well known and can be easily
> discovered
> >with a bit of research.
> >You test drive an automobile before purchase, the same
> can be done
> >with Windows XP through the various methods already
> mentioned.
> >
> >Microsoft can not possibly put everything on the box as
> you suggest.
> >Back-up to CDRW is just one of a million things that
> should be on the
> >box in that case.
> >
> >It amazes me sometimes that people have no idea how to
> research or
> >search out a solution, however they quickly find this
> forum or similar
> >to voice the complaint when this forum is a great
> research tool to
> >begin with.
> >Instead of starting here with a complain that may be
> rooted in bad
> >research, start here to research before purchase..
> >
> >--
> >Jupiter Jones
> >Check the following link for some great problem solving
> newsgroups.
> >http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
> >Please respond to newsgroup only. Everyone can benefit
> from the
> >message.
> >
> >
> >"F. David" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I agree with you Bill. We're not talking about steel
> and
> >> rubber we're talking about 1's and 0's. You test
> drive a
> >> car, don't you? Why not be able to test drive and OS-
> >> especially if there are different versions: ie: xp home
> >> and xp pro. Does the research one does really involve
> >> looking into all aspects of an app? As in Backup?
> It's
> >> listed as Backup? Does it say on the box that it
> doesn't
> >> write directly to CDRW? No. You only find that out
> when
> >> you want it to do it. And then the error message
> >> say's "invalid file path" and something to do with the
> >> name of the .bkf file: they could easily say "XP
> doesn't
> >> write to CDRW because we thought it might make us
> laugh"
> >> or something to that extent. So Bill, right on. And a
> >> message to others out there who might want to punish us
> >> for speaking our minds. This is America and war or no
> >> war, the pendulum will swing the other way.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Glad you got that off your chest, Bill..............
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Bill" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> It should be possible to obtain an "on line"
> download
> >> of
> >> >> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP
> Professional. It
> >> >> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have
> >> more
> >> >> than half of the program facilities already with XP
> >> >> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless
> they
> >> >> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to
> stores.
> >> >> I see that product costing about $100. I am
> >> particularly
> >> >> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
> >> >> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
> >> >> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[F. David]

JJ, you seem to ignore any points made that do not
support your views.
>-----Original Message-----
>The technology available in a modern Home computer is
enormous.
>It could take a long time to research it thoroughly.
>However it would still be prudent to research the
capabilities you
>need.
>If your needs are many and detailed, it is a good
idea "to spend hours
>and hours, asking questions -researching the minutia" to
ensure your $
>are spent wisely.
>There are many people who do just that before buying
their computer or
>software.
>You apparently don't think research is important which
may be why you
>get so disappointed.
>It is your $ until you use it.
>If you do not adequately prepare, it is your fault and
your $ spent,
>not mine.
>
>You must do research on any product.
>If you fail to adequately research, the cost and
responsibility is
>yours and not the product producer.
>Especially in the cases mentioned where it is well
documented.
>
>This is no different with any product, computer related
or not.
>
>We consumers make demands of what we want, it is about
time we also
>take responsibility for our lack of proper research
instead of the all
>to common idea of shuffling our negligence onto some
others..
>
>--
>Jupiter Jones
>An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/s
etup.asp
>Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
>
>
>"F. David" > wrote in message
...
>> J.J. wrote: >Microsoft can not possibly put everything
on
>> the box as you suggest.>Back-up to CDRW is just one of
a
>> million things that should be on the box in that case.
>>
>> Exactly, JJ, you're making my point. One shouldn't
have
>> to spend hours and hours, asking questions -researching
>> the minutia. ie: The floppy is going the way of Beta
>> tape. Backup allows you to backup to floppy. Floppies
>> don't come on all machines. CDRW is now the standard.
>> 3rd party apps write backups to D:, MS's own OS
doesn't.
>> No person, under REASONABLE circumstances, would
expect
>> XP NOT to write to CDRW. This is just one blatant
>> example.
>> $100.00 to upgrade to XP PRO from XP HOME, as the
>> original poster suggested, (as long as that price is
=or>
>> what MS would've made for XP Pro in the first place)
>> would be good customer relations and be seen as fair.
>> You talk about research as "hands on". Again, exactly.
>> Hands on with a computer OS is not a "test drive", it's
>> days or weeks.
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >"Does the research one does really involve looking
into
>> all aspects of
>> >an app?"
>> >It should at least to the point of features you feel
>> necessary.
>> >The source of available research is almost limitless.
>> >Hands on with a computer:
>> >Work, library, friend relative etc.
>> >Technical reassert:
>> >All the above + internet, newsgroups and many more to
>> numerous to
>> >mention.
>> >The best is ask people you know what they like and
>> dislike.
>> >
>> >Everything you mentioned is well known and can be
easily
>> discovered
>> >with a bit of research.
>> >You test drive an automobile before purchase, the same
>> can be done
>> >with Windows XP through the various methods already
>> mentioned.
>> >
>> >Microsoft can not possibly put everything on the box
as
>> you suggest.
>> >Back-up to CDRW is just one of a million things that
>> should be on the
>> >box in that case.
>> >
>> >It amazes me sometimes that people have no idea how to
>> research or
>> >search out a solution, however they quickly find this
>> forum or similar
>> >to voice the complaint when this forum is a great
>> research tool to
>> >begin with.
>> >Instead of starting here with a complain that may be
>> rooted in bad
>> >research, start here to research before purchase..
>> >
>> >--
>> >Jupiter Jones
>> >Check the following link for some great problem
solving
>> newsgroups.
>> >http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
>> >Please respond to newsgroup only. Everyone can
benefit
>> from the
>> >message.
>> >
>> >
>> >"F. David" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> I agree with you Bill. We're not talking about
steel
>> and
>> >> rubber we're talking about 1's and 0's. You test
>> drive a
>> >> car, don't you? Why not be able to test drive and
OS-
>> >> especially if there are different versions: ie: xp
home
>> >> and xp pro. Does the research one does really
involve
>> >> looking into all aspects of an app? As in Backup?
>> It's
>> >> listed as Backup? Does it say on the box that it
>> doesn't
>> >> write directly to CDRW? No. You only find that out
>> when
>> >> you want it to do it. And then the error message
>> >> say's "invalid file path" and something to do with
the
>> >> name of the .bkf file: they could easily say "XP
>> doesn't
>> >> write to CDRW because we thought it might make us
>> laugh"
>> >> or something to that extent. So Bill, right on.
And a
>> >> message to others out there who might want to
punish us
>> >> for speaking our minds. This is America and war or
no
>> >> war, the pendulum will swing the other way.
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Glad you got that off your chest,
Bill..............
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Bill" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> It should be possible to obtain an "on line"
>> download
>> >> of
>> >> >> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP
>> Professional. It
>> >> >> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we
have
>> >> more
>> >> >> than half of the program facilities already with
XP
>> >> >> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless
>> they
>> >> >> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to
>> stores.
>> >> >> I see that product costing about $100. I am
>> >> particularly
>> >> >> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
>> >> >> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote
to
>> >> >> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad!
WK
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Jupiter Jones]

If that is all you can say to facts, I guess you finally met the
truth.
I tired of you desire to shunt responsibility anyways.
Good bye.

--
Jupiter Jones
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.


"F. David" > wrote in message
...
> JJ, you seem to ignore any points made that do not
> support your views.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >The technology available in a modern Home computer is
> enormous.
> >It could take a long time to research it thoroughly.
> >However it would still be prudent to research the
> capabilities you
> >need.
> >If your needs are many and detailed, it is a good
> idea "to spend hours
> >and hours, asking questions -researching the minutia" to
> ensure your $
> >are spent wisely.
> >There are many people who do just that before buying
> their computer or
> >software.
> >You apparently don't think research is important which
> may be why you
> >get so disappointed.
> >It is your $ until you use it.
> >If you do not adequately prepare, it is your fault and
> your $ spent,
> >not mine.
> >
> >You must do research on any product.
> >If you fail to adequately research, the cost and
> responsibility is
> >yours and not the product producer.
> >Especially in the cases mentioned where it is well
> documented.
> >
> >This is no different with any product, computer related
> or not.
> >
> >We consumers make demands of what we want, it is about
> time we also
> >take responsibility for our lack of proper research
> instead of the all
> >to common idea of shuffling our negligence onto some
> others..
> >
> >--
> >Jupiter Jones
> >An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/s
> etup.asp
> >Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
> >
> >
> >"F. David" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> J.J. wrote: >Microsoft can not possibly put everything
> on
> >> the box as you suggest.>Back-up to CDRW is just one of
> a
> >> million things that should be on the box in that case.
> >>
> >> Exactly, JJ, you're making my point. One shouldn't
> have
> >> to spend hours and hours, asking questions -researching
> >> the minutia. ie: The floppy is going the way of Beta
> >> tape. Backup allows you to backup to floppy. Floppies
> >> don't come on all machines. CDRW is now the standard.
> >> 3rd party apps write backups to D:, MS's own OS
> doesn't.
> >> No person, under REASONABLE circumstances, would
> expect
> >> XP NOT to write to CDRW. This is just one blatant
> >> example.
> >> $100.00 to upgrade to XP PRO from XP HOME, as the
> >> original poster suggested, (as long as that price is
> =or>
> >> what MS would've made for XP Pro in the first place)
> >> would be good customer relations and be seen as fair.
> >> You talk about research as "hands on". Again, exactly.
> >> Hands on with a computer OS is not a "test drive", it's
> >> days or weeks.
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >"Does the research one does really involve looking
> into
> >> all aspects of
> >> >an app?"
> >> >It should at least to the point of features you feel
> >> necessary.
> >> >The source of available research is almost limitless.
> >> >Hands on with a computer:
> >> >Work, library, friend relative etc.
> >> >Technical reassert:
> >> >All the above + internet, newsgroups and many more to
> >> numerous to
> >> >mention.
> >> >The best is ask people you know what they like and
> >> dislike.
> >> >
> >> >Everything you mentioned is well known and can be
> easily
> >> discovered
> >> >with a bit of research.
> >> >You test drive an automobile before purchase, the same
> >> can be done
> >> >with Windows XP through the various methods already
> >> mentioned.
> >> >
> >> >Microsoft can not possibly put everything on the box
> as
> >> you suggest.
> >> >Back-up to CDRW is just one of a million things that
> >> should be on the
> >> >box in that case.
> >> >
> >> >It amazes me sometimes that people have no idea how to
> >> research or
> >> >search out a solution, however they quickly find this
> >> forum or similar
> >> >to voice the complaint when this forum is a great
> >> research tool to
> >> >begin with.
> >> >Instead of starting here with a complain that may be
> >> rooted in bad
> >> >research, start here to research before purchase..
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Jupiter Jones
> >> >Check the following link for some great problem
> solving
> >> newsgroups.
> >> >http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
> >> >Please respond to newsgroup only. Everyone can
> benefit
> >> from the
> >> >message.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"F. David" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> I agree with you Bill. We're not talking about
> steel
> >> and
> >> >> rubber we're talking about 1's and 0's. You test
> >> drive a
> >> >> car, don't you? Why not be able to test drive and
> OS-
> >> >> especially if there are different versions: ie: xp
> home
> >> >> and xp pro. Does the research one does really
> involve
> >> >> looking into all aspects of an app? As in Backup?
> >> It's
> >> >> listed as Backup? Does it say on the box that it
> >> doesn't
> >> >> write directly to CDRW? No. You only find that out
> >> when
> >> >> you want it to do it. And then the error message
> >> >> say's "invalid file path" and something to do with
> the
> >> >> name of the .bkf file: they could easily say "XP
> >> doesn't
> >> >> write to CDRW because we thought it might make us
> >> laugh"
> >> >> or something to that extent. So Bill, right on.
> And a
> >> >> message to others out there who might want to
> punish us
> >> >> for speaking our minds. This is America and war or
> no
> >> >> war, the pendulum will swing the other way.
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Glad you got that off your chest,
> Bill..............
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Bill" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> It should be possible to obtain an "on line"
> >> download
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP
> >> Professional. It
> >> >> >> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we
> have
> >> >> more
> >> >> >> than half of the program facilities already with
> XP
> >> >> >> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless
> >> they
> >> >> >> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to
> >> stores.
> >> >> >> I see that product costing about $100. I am
> >> >> particularly
> >> >> >> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
> >> >> >> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote
> to
> >> >> >> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad!
> WK
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[F. David]

>-----Original Message-----
>If that is all you can say to facts, I guess you finally
met the
>truth.
>I tired of you desire to shunt responsibility anyways.
>Good bye.
>
That's the problem, JJ, you equate discourse with not
accepting responsiblility. You're too closed minded for
me...
ta ta.

[David Candy]

Discourse - now there is a big word for ya.

--=20
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
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http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
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"F. David" > wrote in message =
...
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If that is all you can say to facts, I guess you finally=20
> met the
> >truth.
> >I tired of you desire to shunt responsibility anyways.
> >Good bye.
> >
> That's the problem, JJ, you equate discourse with not=20
> accepting responsiblility. You're too closed minded for=20
> me...=20
> ta ta.

[David Candy]

In this pertinacious discourse, assuming that isn't an oxymoron, of =
course.

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http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"David Candy" > wrote in message =
...
Discourse - now there is a big word for ya.

--=20
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"F. David" > wrote in message =
...
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If that is all you can say to facts, I guess you finally=20
> met the
> >truth.
> >I tired of you desire to shunt responsibility anyways.
> >Good bye.
> >
> That's the problem, JJ, you equate discourse with not=20
> accepting responsiblility. You're too closed minded for=20
> me...=20
> ta ta.

[F. David Roth]

Webster's defined as: 1.communication of ideas,
information, etc.
Just in case you didn't know. :-)

>-----Original Message-----
>Discourse - now there is a big word for ya.
>
>--

[F. David]

You got me on the "p" word-- had to look it up ;0

Though many times I am perspicacious, I fear with JJ, I
might have been perspicuous.
(the non-apology apology)(made famous most recently by
that guy in Cooperstown)
>-----Original Message-----
>In this pertinacious discourse, assuming that isn't an
oxymoron, of course.
>
>--
>http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
>http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
>---------------------------------------------------------
------
>David Candy
>http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
>---------------------------------------------------------
------
>"David Candy" > wrote in message
...
>Discourse - now there is a big word for ya.
>
>--
>http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
>http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
>---------------------------------------------------------
------
>David Candy
>http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
>---------------------------------------------------------
------
>"F. David" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >If that is all you can say to facts, I guess you
finally
>> met the
>> >truth.
>> >I tired of you desire to shunt responsibility anyways.
>> >Good bye.
>> >
>> That's the problem, JJ, you equate discourse with not
>> accepting responsiblility. You're too closed minded
for
>> me...
>> ta ta.
>
>
>.
>

[David Candy]

I ain't never heard of Cooperstown=20

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http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"F. David" > wrote in message =
...
> You got me on the "p" word-- had to look it up ;0
>=20
> Though many times I am perspicacious, I fear with JJ, I=20
> might have been perspicuous.
> (the non-apology apology)(made famous most recently by=20
> that guy in Cooperstown)
> >-----Original Message-----
> >In this pertinacious discourse, assuming that isn't an=20
> oxymoron, of course.
> >
> >--=20
> >http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
> >http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
> >---------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> >David Candy
> >http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
> >---------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> >"David Candy" > wrote in message=20
> ...
> >Discourse - now there is a big word for ya.
> >
> >--=20
> >http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
> >http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
> >---------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> >David Candy
> >http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
> >---------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> >"F. David" > wrote in message=20
> ...
> >>=20
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >If that is all you can say to facts, I guess you=20
> finally=20
> >> met the
> >> >truth.
> >> >I tired of you desire to shunt responsibility anyways.
> >> >Good bye.
> >> >
> >> That's the problem, JJ, you equate discourse with not=20
> >> accepting responsiblility. You're too closed minded=20
> for=20
> >> me...=20
> >> ta ta.
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Quinoa S]

How about if you install ntbackup from your XP CD and then create a new
scheduled task?

Quinoa S

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> It should be possible to obtain an "on line" download of
> an upgrade from Windows XP Home to XP Professional. It
> should not cost $200 to do this! After all, we have more
> than half of the program facilities already with XP
> Home. Microsoft should offer this option, unless they
> plan to instroduce a special upgrade version to stores.
> I see that product costing about $100. I am particularly
> interested in scheduled backups -- a feature only
> available in Windows XP Pro I am told. I wrote to
> Microsoft (twice) but got no answer. Too bad! WK