Clean xpsp2 installation, Need any Updates?

[confused xp]

Just done a clean installation of xpsp2 from cd, do I need to do WindowsUpdate?

[R. McCarty]

Always - but depending on how you answered the Automatic Updates
query at 1st SP2 Boot, it will likely start downloading any updates for
you. Just look for the "Yellow" Security Center shield in the System
Tray.

"confused xp" <confused > wrote in message
...
> Just done a clean installation of xpsp2 from cd, do I need to do
> WindowsUpdate?

[MAP]

"confused xp" wrote:

> Just done a clean installation of xpsp2 from cd, do I need to do WindowsUpdate?

YES!!!!

[kurttrail]

R. McCarty wrote:
> Always - but depending on how you answered the Automatic Updates
> query at 1st SP2 Boot, it will likely start downloading any updates
> for you. Just look for the "Yellow" Security Center shield in the
> System Tray.

It is much quicker to do it yourself, than rely on Auto Update. And
with at least 13 updates to XP since SP2, the less time you are without
the updates, the better. The smaller the Window of opportunity for
catching an exploit to a MicroHole, the better.

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[confused xp]

Great, after the installation, i went for manual/custom updates for
KB873374/885250/867282/873333, which upon restart, all the icons in the
desktop were gone including the 'start' icon (bottom left and task bar) All
the icons I put on the desktop were gone including the recycle bin. When I
right click the desktop, there was no response/dialogue box appearing. I
re-install not once, but twice, it give me similar end result for the pc
restart........... holy2 ..........man

"kurttrail" wrote:

> R. McCarty wrote:
> > Always - but depending on how you answered the Automatic Updates
> > query at 1st SP2 Boot, it will likely start downloading any updates
> > for you. Just look for the "Yellow" Security Center shield in the
> > System Tray.
>
> It is much quicker to do it yourself, than rely on Auto Update. And
> with at least 13 updates to XP since SP2, the less time you are without
> the updates, the better. The smaller the Window of opportunity for
> catching an exploit to a MicroHole, the better.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
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> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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>
>
>

[Ken Blake]

In ,
confused xp <confused > typed:

> Just done a clean installation of xpsp2 from cd, do I need to
> do
> WindowsUpdate?


Yes. Now and regularly. There are already several post-SP2
updates.

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[kurttrail]

confused xp wrote:
> Great, after the installation, i went for manual/custom updates for
> KB873374/885250/867282/873333, which upon restart, all the icons in
> the desktop were gone including the 'start' icon (bottom left and
> task bar) All the icons I put on the desktop were gone including the
> recycle bin. When I right click the desktop, there was no
> response/dialogue box appearing. I re-install not once, but twice, it
> give me similar end result for the pc restart........... holy2
> ..........man
>

Did you slipstream you own copy of an XPSP2 CD? Or did you apply SP2
after installation? Did you use a store bought copy of XPsp2?

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[confused xp]

option 3, bought it .... see others are having problems too.

"kurttrail" wrote:

> confused xp wrote:
> > Great, after the installation, i went for manual/custom updates for
> > KB873374/885250/867282/873333, which upon restart, all the icons in
> > the desktop were gone including the 'start' icon (bottom left and
> > task bar) All the icons I put on the desktop were gone including the
> > recycle bin. When I right click the desktop, there was no
> > response/dialogue box appearing. I re-install not once, but twice, it
> > give me similar end result for the pc restart........... holy2
> > ..........man
> >
>
> Did you slipstream you own copy of an XPSP2 CD? Or did you apply SP2
> after installation? Did you use a store bought copy of XPsp2?
>
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>
>
>

[kurttrail]

confused xp wrote:
> option 3, bought it .... see others are having problems too.
>

Try booting into safe mode, F8 after BIOS loads, but before Windows
does, and see if you get the desktop and other functions there. If you
can get into the Control Panel, go to Add/Remove Programs and and
uninstall the updates one at a time, and keeping track of which patch
you uninstall each time, and see if you get Windows to work that way.


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[confused xp]

When in safe mode, no luck it gives me a black page, can't go anywhere. The
only mistake I was to update a few patches each time, So hard to tell which
patch is causing the problem, thanks


"kurttrail" wrote:

> confused xp wrote:
> > option 3, bought it .... see others are having problems too.
> >
>
> Try booting into safe mode, F8 after BIOS loads, but before Windows
> does, and see if you get the desktop and other functions there. If you
> can get into the Control Panel, go to Add/Remove Programs and and
> uninstall the updates one at a time, and keeping track of which patch
> you uninstall each time, and see if you get Windows to work that way.
>
>
> --
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> Kurt
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>
>
>

[Alex Nichol]

"confused xp" <confused > wrote:

>Just done a clean installation of xpsp2 from cd, do I need to do WindowsUpdate?

There have been a few since SP2 came out. Go to IE Tools - Windows
Update and get the Critical ones

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[kurttrail]

Alex Nichol wrote:
> "confused xp" <confused > wrote:
>
>> Just done a clean installation of xpsp2 from cd, do I need to do
>> WindowsUpdate?
>
> There have been a few since SP2 came out. Go to IE Tools - Windows
> Update and get the Critical ones

Hey Alex, Can you think of anything that can help this guy out?

He installed some of the updates, and now he has a blank desktop, same
in Safe Mode, and can't access anything.

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[confused xp]

Kurt, thanks for staying on top. If I were to try download one-by-one, at
some point I am going to hit the jackpot and back to square one. So cant go
thru that route. Really is to find out why is it causing the BLACK hole.
Re-install and it work what I have expected from XP. But not doing any
update at the moment. Living dangerously at the moment. (One thing I noticed
at shut down, it gives a back ground that I was not expecting, something
like overlapping icons) thanks

"kurttrail" wrote:

> Alex Nichol wrote:
> > "confused xp" <confused > wrote:
> >
> >> Just done a clean installation of xpsp2 from cd, do I need to do
> >> WindowsUpdate?
> >
> > There have been a few since SP2 came out. Go to IE Tools - Windows
> > Update and get the Critical ones
>
> Hey Alex, Can you think of anything that can help this guy out?
>
> He installed some of the updates, and now he has a blank desktop, same
> in Safe Mode, and can't access anything.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
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>
>
>

[kurttrail]

confused xp wrote:
> Kurt, thanks for staying on top. If I were to try download
> one-by-one, at some point I am going to hit the jackpot and back to
> square one. So cant go thru that route. Really is to find out why is
> it causing the BLACK hole. Re-install and it work what I have
> expected from XP. But not doing any update at the moment. Living
> dangerously at the moment. (One thing I noticed at shut down, it
> gives a back ground that I was not expecting, something like
> overlapping icons) thanks
>

Are you using the video drivers that is installed during setup, or the
lastest ones from the video card manufacturer?

If you are using the latter, I would try that.

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[confused xp]

Display adaptor shows NIVIDIA riva tnt2 model 64/model64 pro (microsoft
corporation). Download another version( from driversguide) W9x-532.zip shows
that mine is already latest version.


"kurttrail" wrote:

> confused xp wrote:
> > Kurt, thanks for staying on top. If I were to try download
> > one-by-one, at some point I am going to hit the jackpot and back to
> > square one. So cant go thru that route. Really is to find out why is
> > it causing the BLACK hole. Re-install and it work what I have
> > expected from XP. But not doing any update at the moment. Living
> > dangerously at the moment. (One thing I noticed at shut down, it
> > gives a back ground that I was not expecting, something like
> > overlapping icons) thanks
> >
>
> Are you using the video drivers that is installed during setup, or the
> lastest ones from the video card manufacturer?
>
> If you are using the latter, I would try that.
>
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> Kurt
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>
>

[kurttrail]

confused xp wrote:
> Display adaptor shows NIVIDIA riva tnt2 model 64/model64 pro
> (microsoft corporation). Download another version( from driversguide)
> W9x-532.zip shows that mine is already latest version.
>

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_66.93

This a link to nvidia drivers.

You should also check the website of your computer manufacturer and/or
computer component manufacturers for their latest drivers.

The ones installed with Windows are old, minimalistic, and can cause
many problems.

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[confused xp]

Many thanks for the link and it works very well. Acording to DM CREATIVE
AUDIO PCI ES1371,ES1373) WDM, do I have to open the casing or can I just
lookup for these ES1371,ES1373 and update it. Sorry to ask,just been a bit
lazy now.

And with the modem (the latest driver according to the manufacturer), guess
after that I should be able to do windows update... hopefully without any
problem, thanks

"kurttrail" wrote:

> confused xp wrote:
> > Display adaptor shows NIVIDIA riva tnt2 model 64/model64 pro
> > (microsoft corporation). Download another version( from driversguide)
> > W9x-532.zip shows that mine is already latest version.
> >
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_66.93
>
> This a link to nvidia drivers.
>
> You should also check the website of your computer manufacturer and/or
> computer component manufacturers for their latest drivers.
>
> The ones installed with Windows are old, minimalistic, and can cause
> many problems.
>
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> Kurt
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>

[kurttrail]

confused xp wrote:
> Many thanks for the link and it works very well. Acording to DM
> CREATIVE AUDIO PCI ES1371,ES1373) WDM, do I have to open the casing
> or can I just lookup for these ES1371,ES1373 and update it. Sorry to
> ask,just been a bit lazy now.

I understand about being lazy.
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp

I might be the same driver, but I'm not sure on that.

>
> And with the modem (the latest driver according to the manufacturer),
> guess after that I should be able to do windows update... hopefully
> without any problem, thanks

It's video card drivers that MS uses that cause a lot of problems. The
other thing I would check is the chipset drivers for your motherboard.
But you would have to know what Brand, and model number, as there are
Many different combination of chipsets out there. Good Luck.


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[confused xp]

Open the box and the sound card read as " creative lab model CT4810" and the
CD given when I bought the pc 'CREATIVE VIBRA 128", Guess this is the one
"Driver release for SB PCI 128 Vibra / PCI 16 (Models CT 481x & 4740)
S128-DRV-W3-US "

On the chip set drivers, will open the box again later, tricky one I suppose
as you mention there are many combinations out there, thanks

"kurttrail" wrote:

> confused xp wrote:
> > Many thanks for the link and it works very well. Acording to DM
> > CREATIVE AUDIO PCI ES1371,ES1373) WDM, do I have to open the casing
> > or can I just lookup for these ES1371,ES1373 and update it. Sorry to
> > ask,just been a bit lazy now.
>
> I understand about being lazy.
> http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp
>
> I might be the same driver, but I'm not sure on that.
>
> >
> > And with the modem (the latest driver according to the manufacturer),
> > guess after that I should be able to do windows update... hopefully
> > without any problem, thanks
>
> It's video card drivers that MS uses that cause a lot of problems. The
> other thing I would check is the chipset drivers for your motherboard.
> But you would have to know what Brand, and model number, as there are
> Many different combination of chipsets out there. Good Luck.
>
>
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> Kurt
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>
>