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Mz. Jazz
February 28th 05, 05:49 AM
Hi MJ,
I've never responded to one of these posts but couldn't help myself here.
And I'm an "intermediate" user. It sounds to me like Microsoft is not the
problem! Please remember, without Microsoft, well...need I say more?
Computers are a challenge to our integrity, to our intelligence and to our
"egos"! When you figure it out, or one of these great people help you thru
it, is-it-just-a-wonderful-feeling?!!
Ms Jazz

"MJ" wrote:

> I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows
> Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the
> security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a
> homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250
> GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one
> fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing
> half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't
> even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix
> using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to
> recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the
> place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess.
>
> I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to
> resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then
> reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out
> my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated
> installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code,
> in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told
> that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to
> this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another
> install key from them.
>
> Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me
> another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required
> full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and
> require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls."
>
> It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money
> you plunked down now requires justification for further installation
> in the future.
>

Peter
February 28th 05, 11:41 AM
It's unpreparedeness that crashed your PC not SP2. Did you check for
viruses and spyware. Did you check that all your drivers and software were
up to date? Have you cleared your cache and defragged lately?
Here are a few links that might help:
After April 12 XP users will have to install SP2, there will be no choice!
Some useful hints here:
Please note that Microsoft is withdrawing support for non-SP1 XP soon so be
warned!. If you don't even have SP1, you DON'T need to install that first,
SP2 contains all updates from day 1. After installing SP2 there will be
several additional updates offered by Windows Update...take them.
A basic preparation is to make sure you are free of Spyware and Viruses
(well, your PC anyway ), clear your cache (Start/Control Panel/Performance
and Maintenance/Free up space...), make sure your software is up to date and
that you have at least 2gb of HD space available. SP2 wont need all that but
it's wise to have some leeway until it removes its backups etc.
After installing it do a "clear cache" again and defragment your HD.
Over the next few days, SP2 automatically cleans out stuff it didn't need to
use anyway.

Service Pack 2 information
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=811113

WinXP SP2: What's New for Internet Explorer and Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/ieo...oeoverview.mspx

Application Compatibility Testing and Mitigation Guide for Windows XP
Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en

How to successfully install Windows XP Service Pack 2.
http://www.fixyourwindows.com/winxpsp2install.htm

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx

What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/sp2...whattoknow.mspx

Get SP2 on CD free (for those of you on slow dial-up)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloa...us/default.mspx


--
Peter.
Toronto, Canada.
XP Home SP2.
P4 @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HDD, 1.0gb DDR.
"Mz. Jazz" > wrote in message
...
> Hi MJ,
> I've never responded to one of these posts but couldn't help myself here.
> And I'm an "intermediate" user. It sounds to me like Microsoft is not the
> problem! Please remember, without Microsoft, well...need I say more?
> Computers are a challenge to our integrity, to our intelligence and to our
> "egos"! When you figure it out, or one of these great people help you
> thru
> it, is-it-just-a-wonderful-feeling?!!
> Ms Jazz
>
> "MJ" wrote:
>
>> I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows
>> Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the
>> security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a
>> homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250
>> GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one
>> fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing
>> half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't
>> even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix
>> using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to
>> recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the
>> place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess.
>>
>> I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to
>> resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then
>> reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out
>> my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated
>> installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code,
>> in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told
>> that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to
>> this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another
>> install key from them.
>>
>> Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me
>> another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required
>> full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and
>> require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls."
>>
>> It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money
>> you plunked down now requires justification for further installation
>> in the future.
>>

Raymond J. Johnson Jr.
February 28th 05, 02:25 PM
| It's unpreparedeness that crashed your PC not SP2


How do you know? I had a perfectly prepared--at least in accordance with all
of the standard warnings--computer and SP2 blew it up. It installed without
incident on another computer. The instances were admittedly rare, but there
*were* installations that went south for no discernible reason, and on
computers that were prepared.

Elvey Middleton
February 28th 05, 06:26 PM
MJ
I had the same problem, hard drives appeared to die BSOD and no matter what
I did it failed.
So I ditched the motherboard and instantly my system began to buzz, all was
well.

It is my belief that the SATA controllers are flaky so after 4 reloads and 2
RMA's I now have an all singing and dancing machine.

Not science but it worked for me

Hope you resolve it.


Elvey


"Mz. Jazz" > wrote in message
...
> Hi MJ,
> I've never responded to one of these posts but couldn't help myself here.
> And I'm an "intermediate" user. It sounds to me like Microsoft is not the
> problem! Please remember, without Microsoft, well...need I say more?
> Computers are a challenge to our integrity, to our intelligence and to our
> "egos"! When you figure it out, or one of these great people help you
> thru
> it, is-it-just-a-wonderful-feeling?!!
> Ms Jazz
>
> "MJ" wrote:
>
>> I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows
>> Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the
>> security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a
>> homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250
>> GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one
>> fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing
>> half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't
>> even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix
>> using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to
>> recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the
>> place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess.
>>
>> I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to
>> resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then
>> reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out
>> my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated
>> installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code,
>> in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told
>> that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to
>> this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another
>> install key from them.
>>
>> Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me
>> another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required
>> full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and
>> require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls."
>>
>> It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money
>> you plunked down now requires justification for further installation
>> in the future.
>>

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