SP-2 problem: setup fails - reboot loop

[frank]

I use a slipstreamed Windows XP SP-2 cd. I've set up many different
machines with this, so I know it's ok.

Install proceeds correctly until the final reboot, where it would
normally tell you: 'Your computer will reboot...'. After that you
normally boot into your new system. But it fails then, without
warning, and reboots.

After the machine has rebooted, Windows immediately shows the F8
dialog (Safe Mode, etc.) so it knows something is wrong. Trying to
'Start Windows normally' reboots the machine again, but it is possible
to enter Safe Mode.

I guess this rules out a problem with the SATA driver.
I have disabled all non-essential services this way, but that doesn't
help.
The event log shows nothing related.
I've also checked the usual suspects for a case like this (wrong
reference to userinit in the registry, etc.)

This is a clean install on a new machine, so no viruses, spyware, etc.

I have installed successfully a slipstreamed Windows XP SP-1a cd.
Then, upgrading this to SP-2 renders the system inoperable, as
described above.

I also have installed Win2K SP-4 with everything working just fine.

I'm quite sure all the hardware's ok.

So I'm a little at a loss and wondering what SP-2 gurus think

Quick board overview:
• Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA RAID
• AMD-8151™ AGP 3.0 Graphics Tunnel
• AMD-8111™ HyperTransport™ I/O Hub
• Winbond™ W83627HF Super I/O ASIC

Complete board specs here:
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html

Regards

[Chris Holden]

"frank" > wrote in message
...
>I use a slipstreamed Windows XP SP-2 cd. I've set up many different
> machines with this, so I know it's ok.
>
> Install proceeds correctly until the final reboot, where it would
> normally tell you: 'Your computer will reboot...'. After that you
> normally boot into your new system. But it fails then, without
> warning, and reboots.
>
> After the machine has rebooted, Windows immediately shows the F8
> dialog (Safe Mode, etc.) so it knows something is wrong. Trying to
> 'Start Windows normally' reboots the machine again, but it is possible
> to enter Safe Mode.
>
> I guess this rules out a problem with the SATA driver.
> I have disabled all non-essential services this way, but that doesn't
> help.
> The event log shows nothing related.
> I've also checked the usual suspects for a case like this (wrong
> reference to userinit in the registry, etc.)
>
> This is a clean install on a new machine, so no viruses, spyware, etc.
>
> I have installed successfully a slipstreamed Windows XP SP-1a cd.
> Then, upgrading this to SP-2 renders the system inoperable, as
> described above.
>
> I also have installed Win2K SP-4 with everything working just fine.
>
> I'm quite sure all the hardware's ok.
>
> So I'm a little at a loss and wondering what SP-2 gurus think
>
> Quick board overview:
> . Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA RAID
> . AMD-8151T AGP 3.0 Graphics Tunnel
> . AMD-8111T HyperTransportT I/O Hub
> . WinbondT W83627HF Super I/O ASIC
>
> Complete board specs here:
> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html
>
> Regards
>

Not a guru...
You may have already done this (and probably have, but you don't say): turn
off the automatic reboot on STOP errors (of course from safe mode).
When you try to start in normal mode after that, do you get a blue screen of
death? If so, what does it say?
Sorry if you've tried that already, but you didn't say...

[frank]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:12:07 -0000, "Chris Holden"
> wrote:

>
>"frank" > wrote in message
...
>>I use a slipstreamed Windows XP SP-2 cd. I've set up many different
>> machines with this, so I know it's ok.
>>
>> Install proceeds correctly until the final reboot, where it would
>> normally tell you: 'Your computer will reboot...'. After that you
>> normally boot into your new system. But it fails then, without
>> warning, and reboots.
>>
>> After the machine has rebooted, Windows immediately shows the F8
>> dialog (Safe Mode, etc.) so it knows something is wrong. Trying to
>> 'Start Windows normally' reboots the machine again, but it is possible
>> to enter Safe Mode.
>>
>> I guess this rules out a problem with the SATA driver.
>> I have disabled all non-essential services this way, but that doesn't
>> help.
>> The event log shows nothing related.
>> I've also checked the usual suspects for a case like this (wrong
>> reference to userinit in the registry, etc.)
>>
>> This is a clean install on a new machine, so no viruses, spyware, etc.
>>
>> I have installed successfully a slipstreamed Windows XP SP-1a cd.
>> Then, upgrading this to SP-2 renders the system inoperable, as
>> described above.
>>
>> I also have installed Win2K SP-4 with everything working just fine.
>>
>> I'm quite sure all the hardware's ok.
>>
>> So I'm a little at a loss and wondering what SP-2 gurus think
>>
>> Quick board overview:
>> . Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA RAID
>> . AMD-8151T AGP 3.0 Graphics Tunnel
>> . AMD-8111T HyperTransportT I/O Hub
>> . WinbondT W83627HF Super I/O ASIC
>>
>> Complete board specs here:
>> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html
>>
>> Regards
>>
>
>Not a guru...
>You may have already done this (and probably have, but you don't say): turn
>off the automatic reboot on STOP errors (of course from safe mode).
>When you try to start in normal mode after that, do you get a blue screen of
>death? If so, what does it say?
>Sorry if you've tried that already, but you didn't say...
>

Thanks for your reply.

I hadn't tried that, but did just now and it didn't help.

Actually, it very briefly flashes the Windows splash screen (the one
with the progress bar) and then reboots. I don't think the OS loads at
all, hence no bsod. And no stop code that would point to a problem.

Regards.

[frank]

On a hunch, I decided to put in there another vid card.
I used an Asus V-7700 instead of the new, which is a Radeon 9600 Pro.
Everything just worked out good. I am nonplussed.

How does SP-2 interact with video drivers?
This is not the first time I have vid card issues with SP-2, come to
think of it. The other times were just less weird.

Once the setup has completed correctly, I can replace the V-7700 with
the Radeon and Windows will detect it as such. How come it can't the
first time around ?

This is not natural: MS can't expect everyone to have a few spare
parts lying around to be able to install Win. Any ideas?

Does this mean
1.) my new card is flaky (although it seemed ok under SP-1a and Win2k
SP-4)?
2.) weirdness like this is to be expected with SP-2?
3.) should I try to somehow slipstream the radeon drivers on a special
installation for this machine?
4.) I should just go back to law school and let computers alone?

Regards

[heal my pc!]

I've seen issues like that with the 9600 Pro card in other forums. I'm
guessing something's a little hinky with that card or driver. For giggle,s
have you attempted an older version of the 9600 driver, if there is one?

"frank" wrote:

>
> On a hunch, I decided to put in there another vid card.
> I used an Asus V-7700 instead of the new, which is a Radeon 9600 Pro.
> Everything just worked out good. I am nonplussed.
>
> How does SP-2 interact with video drivers?
> This is not the first time I have vid card issues with SP-2, come to
> think of it. The other times were just less weird.
>
> Once the setup has completed correctly, I can replace the V-7700 with
> the Radeon and Windows will detect it as such. How come it can't the
> first time around ?
>
> This is not natural: MS can't expect everyone to have a few spare
> parts lying around to be able to install Win. Any ideas?
>
> Does this mean
> 1.) my new card is flaky (although it seemed ok under SP-1a and Win2k
> SP-4)?
> 2.) weirdness like this is to be expected with SP-2?
> 3.) should I try to somehow slipstream the radeon drivers on a special
> installation for this machine?
> 4.) I should just go back to law school and let computers alone?
>
> Regards
>
>

[rap]

I have the same problem, I need help!!.

TIA
"frank" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:12:07 -0000, "Chris Holden"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"frank" > wrote in message
...
>>>I use a slipstreamed Windows XP SP-2 cd. I've set up many different
>>> machines with this, so I know it's ok.
>>>
>>> Install proceeds correctly until the final reboot, where it would
>>> normally tell you: 'Your computer will reboot...'. After that you
>>> normally boot into your new system. But it fails then, without
>>> warning, and reboots.
>>>
>>> After the machine has rebooted, Windows immediately shows the F8
>>> dialog (Safe Mode, etc.) so it knows something is wrong. Trying to
>>> 'Start Windows normally' reboots the machine again, but it is possible
>>> to enter Safe Mode.
>>>
>>> I guess this rules out a problem with the SATA driver.
>>> I have disabled all non-essential services this way, but that doesn't
>>> help.
>>> The event log shows nothing related.
>>> I've also checked the usual suspects for a case like this (wrong
>>> reference to userinit in the registry, etc.)
>>>
>>> This is a clean install on a new machine, so no viruses, spyware, etc.
>>>
>>> I have installed successfully a slipstreamed Windows XP SP-1a cd.
>>> Then, upgrading this to SP-2 renders the system inoperable, as
>>> described above.
>>>
>>> I also have installed Win2K SP-4 with everything working just fine.
>>>
>>> I'm quite sure all the hardware's ok.
>>>
>>> So I'm a little at a loss and wondering what SP-2 gurus think
>>>
>>> Quick board overview:
>>> . Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA RAID
>>> . AMD-8151T AGP 3.0 Graphics Tunnel
>>> . AMD-8111T HyperTransportT I/O Hub
>>> . WinbondT W83627HF Super I/O ASIC
>>>
>>> Complete board specs here:
>>> http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>
>>Not a guru...
>>You may have already done this (and probably have, but you don't say):
>>turn
>>off the automatic reboot on STOP errors (of course from safe mode).
>>When you try to start in normal mode after that, do you get a blue screen
>>of
>>death? If so, what does it say?
>>Sorry if you've tried that already, but you didn't say...
>>
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I hadn't tried that, but did just now and it didn't help.
>
> Actually, it very briefly flashes the Windows splash screen (the one
> with the progress bar) and then reboots. I don't think the OS loads at
> all, hence no bsod. And no stop code that would point to a problem.
>
> Regards.
>